ShadowValkyrie

I would be interesting, if the live action movie ever gets made, to see if they use it to spring board a new animated series based on the "timeline".

One of the things that Macross has, that Robotech doesn't, is the sense-- at least for me-- of something bigger is behind it all. I don't mean Protoculture or the ProtoDevlin, or even the missing Megaroad01. I'm just talking about each of the series having a sense of being just one tiny little story in this massive universe, and that humanity is moving towards something that is just going to blow everything away. It's the little bits and clues and bread crumps left from show to show, where just when you think you've got it nailed, how the Macross Universe works, you realize you're wrong. It isn't just all gutted and spilled out on the table like Robotech. There isn't an compulsive need to make everything inter connect to the point of making the universe seem about as big as somebodies backyard.

I enjoyed it for the most part-- all though destroying the Macross still bugs the hell out of me. It's a fun little story and the mecha designs were actually pretty good.

Maybe. Like I said for a dollar, I'll grab it and see if I'm by there in the near future and I think of it and they've still got it. I know in the past when I've bought "Anime" DVD's there for a buck, they've usually been native language or spanish dubs and really crappy transfers-- like 2nd or 3rd generation bootleg bad.

Looking at some of HG's collection, it seems like their "catalog" is largely B-movie to Hallmarkish sort of fair.

How in 7 hells does HG stay in business on just Robotech alone? The franchise can't be bringing that much money for them. I would have thought by now that they would have been swallowed up by another or simply folded. In fact till the Robotech DVDs came out, I thought HG was long out of business.

Couldn't HG just reboot the Robotech franchise? I'm thinking it would make life easier and allow both parties to do whatever the hell they wanted. Just retell it from page 1 with the same basic story and characters-- change a few things to get rid of the legal headaches-- and then let the fanbase(s) and market settle this business.

Think about it, it was implied in the previous season that what's going on is more or less a big game for Super Scientists and Super "Villains" as a means to keep them from taking it out on the general public. Though the Monarch seems to take it deadly serious in regards to Rusty-- I think the phrase was "real hate". How Sphinx fits into that: another facation, a real group, or a "common enemy" for the two is unkown at this point.

I'm expecting Dr. Venture Senior to pop back up as the leader of Sphinx. Don't know why, probably because of the O.R.B last year has got me to thinking that Senior is out there behind the scenes and working opposite the "Good Guys"; assuming O.S.I really is the "good guys".

I loved me some "Frontier", hell I even enjoyed Macross 7 and Macross II (don't hurt me). But if I had to make the Sophie's Choice, yeah, I'm going to stick with SDF Macross every time. Sure it's partly out of nostalgia (I'm sure a lot of it is given the period of my life that Macross came into and the escape it allowed) but it's also something about the story itself that...well it's hard for to explain other than it is the Macross story and everything is just feels like something lesser; still good, still solid, but just not as good as the original.

I guess I don't get the thought process behind it. If a person lurked around for even a few hours, back read the original thread, they would have gotten the vibe of the community. If someone did that they would know if they could feel comfortable here or not. Besides, if he was here for tech-chit-chat why bring Robotech vs Macross fandom into the conversation at all and then ask the tech question more or less as an after thought.

I'm sure he's on some s[h]ort of bus. He shows up, starts bitching about Macross fans, and wanting a established community to change its behavior and then gets his panties in a twist when people throw popcorn and laugh at him. Makes me question his real motives at this point.

I think "Insulting" is a good word for it. First off if you think so much of another person's work, why bastardize it into something that it's not? Why not just play in the subject's native universe?

Okay, just to jump here real quick: The Shadow Chronicles "Refit" of the SDF-3 has got to be the ugliest looking thing in Robotech. I know they can't use the Macross designs, but come on that's the best they could do?

Huh, I think I saw this in the DVD bin at $1 Tree a while back. Will have to check the next time I'm by there and see if they've still got it. Might be worth the laugh if nothing else. So we can slap a RT label and sell it as a HG series then?

Fear, or considering the "Devil" to whoever the PC's real "god" was. Any number of lines of thought that would lead a culture to thinking of a race as a "god" but not necessarily worshiping them.

Was that really so much "Galaxy vs Frontier" as it was Grace and her cohorts vs the rest of humanity; with the NMC Galaxy co-opted to their ends. After all we never did get a conclusive outcome to what happened to the Galaxy colony fleet, so they may have opposed or not known of Grace and Co.'s agenda. So, I never saw as a fleet on fleet battle. Though I agree with the idea that as time goes on that eventually we'll start seeing more fleet on fleet frictions.

Robotech was my first exposure to Macross, and from there just friends and various other fans that got me into the loop.

Robotech and Starblazers got me interested in anime when I was elementary-school. Being in the rural southern-USA it wasn't exactly easy to come back movies or episodes of ANY anime other than the "safe" stuff shown on the local broadcast channel. When I was in Jr. High I found a rat hole comic/magazine/magna/sports-card shop a couple of towns over. The owner was a complete a-hole and you had to dig through boxes and shipping cases to find anything, but I didn't care; would spend tons of money in there every month on indie comics and magna. First real exposure to the "community"-- ie fandom-- was my 2nd year of highschool when I was hunting down a indie comic and discovered a, now defunct, small comic/indie rock store crammed off in back of an alley a couple of doors down from a porno-shop/theater. Absolutely amazing shop and was the place I was first introduced to undubbed Anime. Didn't get to go out there much-- it was a 90 minute drive each way-- but when I did, man was it fun. Some days I miss the old "primitive" days. There was a fun to be had in swapping tapes, hunting down shops and comics, and meeting new folks by pure accident, that is hard, if at all possible, to find on the internet.

Well it is the 25th anni., so who knows maybe we could end up with a movie(s) dealing with the return/discovery of the Megaroad 01. Still, as much as I want it to be true, I'm not going to hold my breath that this is close to being what we're going to get. For all we know, it could be Grace and the Galaxy colony fleet.

Going to vote for Algenix. Mainly because it's something firmly footed in Macross and the fact I always liked the Zentradie look of the ship.

Well it's not like he didn't know that he was opening the can. I can't really believe he was just "trolling" the fanbase. He either did it cause it was a nice little nod back-- as a lot of the rest of the series has been-- back to the old days and the beginning of the franchise. Or he's got an idea in his head in his head, even in broad strokes, and he figured on laying some ground work. Whether there is a pay-off out of it or not, is ultimately just a matter of patience and SK's whim.

Well isn't that some of the fun, at least for me, with Macross's "universe". The more questions that get answered, the more questions pop up to be answered. The fun isn't necessarily in getting the answers, it's in the ride in the search for the answers. As much fun as it is to theorize and guess at what this or that bit of dialog or footage "really means", it wouldn't be as much fun is there wasn't a mystery to play around with. Then again, I'm one of those people that loves a good mystery and gets a little disappointed if a story wraps up all nice and neatly.

Well there are any number of issues that could throw a monkey-wrench into the idea of fold quartz becoming a common material for fold drives. Anything from it being harmful to the Vajra to take the quartz and thus not being something that can be gotten easily if at all, too the Vajra simply not wanting to give it up, too some other "X" factor that makes it useless as a practical and viable fold drive component intended for repeated or regular use in human/zentran ships. As for Macross: Voyager...yeah, lets not and say we didn't

Yes, and that doesn't mean that the Queen's "throne" wasn't a by product of the Protoculture experimenting in getting closer to "god"-- to use a word. Remember the PC seem to trend toward playing with genetics like a kid plays with legos, why should they're own race be any different. Oh I get what happened, I'm talking about probabilities should SK ever want to explore the mystery of the Megaroad 01. If he goes down that road, potentially the Vajra homeworld could be marked as a clue in that search.