Post Skywalker Saga Star Wars Movies

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3 hours ago, Magnus said:

Going against the grain here, but i'd have been interested in a movie about Ben Solo given the star power involved.  Seeing a film about living up to the consequences of your actions would have been a new one for the franchise, since Vader croaked before he could be held to account for all of his war crimes. 

Plus this would be the only way that the Skywalker bloodline continues and doesn't get superceded by Palpatine's, so for that alone i'd think the film would be worth it.

It may have been a good idea at some point, but I still think it’s best to either do stories before the sequels or preferably long after them and not mention them at all

[Seto Kaiba]

21 hours ago, Magnus said:

Going against the grain here, but i'd have been interested in a movie about Ben Solo given the star power involved.  Seeing a film about living up to the consequences of your actions would have been a new one for the franchise, since Vader croaked before he could be held to account for all of his war crimes. 

There are times when it can be satisfying to see a villain confront the consequences of their actions and have to live with them.

However, that only works when the villain's offenses are comparatively minor and there's a suitably karmic form of self-enforcing retribution available.

For Ben Solo, the consequences of his actions are a New Republic war crimes tribunal and a swift execution by firing squad.  He was Supreme Leader Snoke's right-hand man and then Supreme Leader himself after he assassinated Snoke.  His crimes are not minor.  He personally murdered hundreds if not thousands of people and was an accessory to the murders of billions more as Supreme Leader Snoke's enforcer and later Supreme Leader himself.  What he did as Kylo Ren was way, WAY too heinous for him to be allowed to live and walk away after the war ended.  We know from The Mandalorian and The Book of Boba Fett that the New Republic executed senior Imperial officers for their crimes.  Kylo Ren's offenses are an order of magnitude or two worse than the crimes that got Moff Gideon the death penalty in a New Republic court.  There's no way that letting him live and walk away from what he did would ever be a satisfying or natural conclusion to his story arc.  He was a legitimate monster.

It's the same deal with the Emperor and Darth Vader.  The sheer scale and number of their crimes meant that death was the only acceptable way for their part of the story to end.  

 

21 hours ago, Magnus said:

Plus this would be the only way that the Skywalker bloodline continues and doesn't get superceded by Palpatine's, so for that alone i'd think the film would be worth it.

Eh... I think Star Wars will be better off putting that Skywalker nonsense behind it.  It suffers too much narratively from The Main Characters Do Everything as it is.

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30 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said:

There are times when it can be satisfying to see a villain confront the consequences of their actions and have to live with them.

However, that only works when the villain's offenses are comparatively minor and there's a suitably karmic form of self-enforcing retribution available.

For Ben Solo, the consequences of his actions are a New Republic war crimes tribunal and a swift execution by firing squad.  He was Supreme Leader Snoke's right-hand man and then Supreme Leader himself after he assassinated Snoke.  His crimes are not minor.  He personally murdered hundreds if not thousands of people and was an accessory to the murders of billions more as Supreme Leader Snoke's enforcer and later Supreme Leader himself.  What he did as Kylo Ren was way, WAY too heinous for him to be allowed to live and walk away after the war ended.  We know from The Mandalorian and The Book of Boba Fett that the New Republic executed senior Imperial officers for their crimes.  Kylo Ren's offenses are an order of magnitude or two worse than the crimes that got Moff Gideon the death penalty in a New Republic court.  There's no way that letting him live and walk away from what he did would ever be a satisfying or natural conclusion to his story arc.  He was a legitimate monster.

It's the same deal with the Emperor and Darth Vader.  The sheer scale and number of their crimes meant that death was the only acceptable way for their part of the story to end.  

 

Eh... I think Star Wars will be better off putting that Skywalker nonsense behind it.  It suffers too much narratively from The Main Characters Do Everything as it is.

Like no one else is available in the galaxy to save it, right? 

No one gave a squirt about the name "Skywalker" until Anakin became a Jedi and went on his adventures, and then Luke took up training and got off Tatooine. Between Anakin and Luke, the name apparently faded into obscurity: when Luke introduced himself to Leia in her holding cell (ANH), she said "who?"

So since we can't use any of the characters from the Sequel Tragedy Trilogy (for reasons previously stated), it's probably best as you said to do all new ones. Give them a chance to achieve heroic feats and do tremendous things in the galaxy.