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Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines


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...(*speaking on the subject of T4)  Ok so a movie that will have the plot to destroy Skynet using futuristic lasers and terminators. Well crap... there goes the neighborhood... mindless shooting and destruction movie? [sarcasm]Oh fun and joy. [/sarcasm]

*added by Agent ONE

So Aliens was just a movie about killing bugs?... Saving Private Ryan was about just finding some dude in the battle field?... The Bible was just about nailing some dude to some wood?...

You symplify anything to make it sound stupid. T4 has some awesome potential... it was serve as both a sequel to T3 and a pre-quel to Terminator. A flim has never served the purpose of BOTH those things, ever.

Look I didnt ask to get flamed and it is freedom here on the boards for me to speak my opinion. If you like t3 fine and you expressed it. I have my damn right to express my opinion on the movie like you did. I also have the right to express my speculation.

Saving Private Ryan was more than saving a man, it was actual history incorporated. It was a better movie than T3 hands down. Even though it was fiction, it showed the life how it was in WW2. I know b/c I talked to some of the vets at the Veterans Adminsitration where my mom worked there. They say it was exactly how it was. To me that was powerful scene in the first 30-45 min of the movie where they landed in Omaha beach.

On T4, I am talking about what kind of plot they are going to add? What send another terminator in the past? Oh wait, there is no past because we are at the future err present... um you get the gist. So we show the war, like that we havent seen bit and pieces of it in all 3 movies. The plot is getting old simple as that. Sure some of you are die hards so you will like it. I am just saying like I haven't other sci-fi action film that will be like this. The future, saving man kind yadda yadda yadda, ok seen it, need fresh material. Just like Matrix. Movie one was great... the rest... you guess how I feel about it.

Frankly, I am just BORED. Movies are getting old. Hollywood needs some fresh material instead of going into comic books, video games, and remakes. (I will refrain my soapbox there as well). And like this year was enough of the man vs machines movies. Gee like we had the movie year of Asteriods hitting Earth movies or the the disaster films like Volcano, Twister, Dantes Peak, The Storm, Titanic... the themes are getting old. Once Saving Private Ryan came out then we had Thin Red Line, Pearl Harbor, Captain Cornelious (whatever the movie with Cage and Cruz), Windtalkers, U571 (Can we see the theme here?). And now we have remakes like the Italian Job (which wasnt bad), Swat, Shaft, etc. You just see the reoccurring theme and it OLD.

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[T4 has some awesome potential... it was serve as both a sequel to T3 and a pre-quel to Terminator. A flim has never served the purpose of BOTH those things, ever.

The act of being a prequel and a sequel at the same time is an interesting concept, but doesn't guarantee greatness. And having potential isn't the same as living up to the potential.

Now if T4 has the same director as T3, I'm going to have to pass on account of how much I hated T3. If James Cameron gets back on board though, I'll probably see it in the theater. I'm not the kind of person who's going to sit here and compain about lack of original ideas. I'm not predicting that T4 will suck or that T4 will be great. All I am saying is that T3 was an abomination.

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Staright Forward. T3 is an excellent action movie. Everyone must agree! The action is freakin great! right? GOOD! Story can be argued, but its terminator, it always has been about the past, present and future. If they threw in another concept or fresh material, no one would like terminator 3 because it wouldnt relate to the first or second. Or any other movie at that point, like Matrix. We all know Movies are for entertainment. Unless its really bad (house of the dead). T3 is an action movie. So sit back, enjoy millions and millions of dollars being spent on carnage and destruction, and pretty women, and jokes, even if there corny, and the story weve all known, heard, and thought about countless times (once again the story part is hard for alot of people to go through haha).

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t3 is ok in my book the part he step on the girly glasses reminded me of t1 of the bad t-800 killing off sarahs roommate and her bf. I realy wished they went with the old design of the hk flyer instead of the one they used in the movie. its not bad but i perfer the old ones. Hope the upcomming pc game is worth it.

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It was stated the reason they changed the HK's was because the timeline has changed for the third time. Since CRS was the new carrier of the machines, they took designs and changed them around to look more sleek. Remember, the war was to begin in 1997, I think in this story, it's 2007, not 2003...I'm not sure, once Terminator 2 rolled out the timeline when it was taking place was so f'ed up. I mean John was suppose to be 12 or something and in middle school...yet he was porn in 1984...and the movie was out in 1991, you'd think it'd be in 1990 or 91 which would put John at 6 or 7, but NO, he's freaking 12. So go figure when this all takes place really -_- the ORIGINAL timeline though, from what I've read, was the most horrible and phsycotic of them all...atleast than, Skynet wasn't software really...

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It was stated the reason they changed the HK's was because the timeline has changed for the third time. Since CRS was the new carrier of the machines, they took designs and changed them around to look more sleek. Remember, the war was to begin in 1997, I think in this story, it's 2007, not 2003...I'm not sure, once Terminator 2 rolled out the timeline when it was taking place was so f'ed up. I mean John was suppose to be 12 or something and in middle school...yet he was porn in 1984...and the movie was out in 1991, you'd think it'd be in 1990 or 91 which would put John at 6 or 7, but NO, he's freaking 12. So go figure when this all takes place really -_- the ORIGINAL timeline though, from what I've read, was the most horrible and phsycotic of them all...atleast than, Skynet wasn't software really...

if you look in the disc 2 of the dvd set i believe it tells you why they went with the new design. i still perfer the old design instead of the sharklike/mantalike design. Too bad CRS redesign the t-600/t-800-850 to look older ;). no those wrinkles and flab is extra combat armor.

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...(*speaking on the subject of T4)  Ok so a movie that will have the plot to destroy Skynet using futuristic lasers and terminators. Well crap... there goes the neighborhood... mindless shooting and destruction movie? [sarcasm]Oh fun and joy. [/sarcasm]

*added by Agent ONE

So Aliens was just a movie about killing bugs?... Saving Private Ryan was about just finding some dude in the battle field?... The Bible was just about nailing some dude to some wood?...

You symplify anything to make it sound stupid. T4 has some awesome potential... it was serve as both a sequel to T3 and a pre-quel to Terminator. A flim has never served the purpose of BOTH those things, ever.

Look I didnt ask to get flamed and it is freedom here on the boards for me to speak my opinion. If you like t3 fine and you expressed it. I have my damn right to express my opinion on the movie like you did. I also have the right to express my speculation.

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you make good points. I wasn't meaning to beat up on you. Sorry if it seems that way.

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[T4 has some awesome potential... it was serve as both a sequel to T3 and a pre-quel to Terminator.  A flim has never served the purpose of BOTH those things, ever.

The act of being a prequel and a sequel at the same time is an interesting concept, but doesn't guarantee greatness. And having potential isn't the same as living up to the potential.

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I completely agree. We will have to see, but I will give Hollywood (and Arnold, as he will no doubt be involved in some way) the befifit of the doubt.

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