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It'll be unnecessary to have it diecast, but I would have thought that it would cost more for 1/72 fighters. Maybe I should switch to collecting real planes instead of Macross; it'd be a lot cheaper. XD With Yamato behind the wheel though, I still wouldn't be surprised at the $70 minimum price tag. =/.

Hm. Is there a physical difference between Luca's 3 UCAV Ghosts and the Ghost X9/V9s? Aside from the color scheme? Been waiting for ghost fighters forever, but I don't know if I can justify getting the RVF-25 for that. Luca wasn't exactly an inspiring character, and neither was his piloting.

I think he's talking about the 1/72 YF-21. Which was less than 7,000 yen if I remember. The 1/60 is around 22,000 yen like you say, matching the price of the SV-51s. Exchange rates, shipping and all, that's about 270 Canadian Retail around here.... Nothing less of staggering. The VF-11 seems to be matching the 1/60 YF-19's price, which is a bit more reasonable.

Essentially, you're waiting for a VF-11B V2. Lol. That may be a while. I'd think the YF-21 V2 would come first =P. Or if you want something now (for Christmas, perhaps) then something already in its second iteration.

How is that safe? We dont even know its initial release quality yet! If anything, its a bigger gamble than the 21.

A fighter only or Gerwalk only mode with less articulation than the battroids, but cheaper is great, but I think the size should be smaller. If the size is going to be 1/72 or 1/60, won't it be pretty redundant amongst your transforming 1/60s? And something of that size, but retaining that level of detail is going to inflate the price to $60-70 and an additional 15 for Gerwalks. Poor paint and panel line detail becomes far more noticeable amongst larger figures. I think its a safer bet to have smaller figures to pair with the current GNU sizes, and keep the costs $20-25 or less.

Actually that'd be pretty awesome. You could have their respective battroids duking it out behind them. Thats a fantastic idea XD PINPOINT BARRIER FISTTTTTTTTT

I would have liked Grace more, if she wasn't so diabolical. But in the most blatant way possible. Unfortunately, I was pretty disappointed with the characters in Frontier, all the male pilots were more feminine than the women (yes even Ozma with his stray lock of hair which must take him hours to get right), and amongst the women, only Klan and Ram were cute. I have a hard time convincing myself to buy figures of them though. Would appreciate a good Isamu or Zero Focker figure though. Between Figma and Revoltech, ehhh.... I think I'd rather have it figma. Revoltech has trouble doing normal standing poses, and I'd prefer they weren't so gummy-feeling. Not really a fan of ball joints though. Solid PVCs forever!

Yea, except that the canards on the 19 had nothing to do with perfect trans, or proportional accuracy in each mode. But if you're saying that there is a possibility of Yamato being super-nice and giving us fan-pleasing extras... Maybe, but I am doubtful. Anyways, Im a fighter person, so the tiny tail fins arent going to cut it. But I did like the long gunpod, and the wicked bayonet. =/ so many trade offs.

Hah. I'd love to see a 27 pilot forget that he has his landing gear deployed and fire the cannon while in combat. Oops. XD I dont see the 27 being all that chunky, because its design is so similar to the SV-51. If Yamato could do the transformation and retain reasonable proportions for the 51, I would hope that Bandai could as well. Also, just by the lineart, the 27's wings are much thicker and less prone to the problems that are inherent with the 51. Unfortunately though, I dislike the fat droopy nosecone with 27... And whats up with its tiny forward canards in that picture?

Doesnt the VF-25 also have a 2 nozzle FP? I never cared much for either.

The giant gun on the VF-27 keeps reminding me of Cowboy Bebop's Swordfish. Anyone else get that feeling? http://www.genghiskwan.com/gallery/3d/swordfish0270.jpg (The forward landing gears splay to both sides of the gun though.)

GNU 21's anyone? I have a bigger problem with the snub nose than anything else, but there's not really a lot that can be done about it. Is it better than the 1/72, yea. But is it good enough to warrant buying and displaying it in fighter? No.

Uhh... I read that someone said that in the 19 thread, but I tried it, but it wont budge and I don't see that happening naturally. At all. I can only forsee terrible splits in the landing gear casing.

One thing about Yamato standard box packaging is that its got lots of extra space inside. It could compress to 50% of its current thickness and the fighter would still be fine. However, it is just thin cardboard and then a plastic tray, so there's not a lot of resistance it provides. Build a thicker cardboard box that wraps around the Yamato packaging (by taking thicker corrugated cardboard, some glue and lots of packing tape) to form a shell. That should give it some resistance. I shipped my fighters like that internationally, and they came out just fine, with only a slight ding on the corner of the Yamato box.

standard. The landing gear issue is present. Too lazy to fix it right now, but will get a small drill to open the hole a bit. Thats all I can find though.

Not sure, but I looked at my 19, and took some pics of the usual gap issues I hear about here. Doesnt seem to be an issue? Or is it something else Ive missed? My cell camera sucks though. The shoulders pop up only slightly but not really a huge issue. And there is that modification to fix that one pretty easily.

Yea, the additional quality of a perfect transformer is a huge plus but for the most part, I'm more a fan of planes than mecha (although its still good). I don't plan on getting any more GNUs (or Revols or any of the non-transformers, really) unless they release plane/gerwalk only models of the same caliber... And hopefully a cheaper price (since fewer joints and so forth.)

Hm. No look inside the feet thrusters. Wish they showed us that. Is it just me though or does the 11 look... bloated? And a tad short?

Its not more than 5-7 dollars cheaper, is a 20% reduction in size, a drop in paint, detail and plastic quality, with heavily exaggerated proportions and liberal design changes. The upsides are that its more durable, has more accessories and is widely posable. Its a toy more than a figure. $30 for a gummy plastic toy is not a purchase I'd like to make more than once. The marginal gain is dramatically decreases with these things, as once you start having enough to consider it a collection, it cheapens everything else. Its like having a few high-grade models on display, but then buy a dozen cheap toys to place next to them, despite their combined price tag being less than any single high-grade model. Playability or not, those high-grade models (read: expensive) have gone to waste. I keep my revoltech on my desk, within hands reach. Anywhere but near the display case.

I got mine retail for 35 bucks (Canadian) which I think is still a high price to pay for a small non-transforming figure, but compared to the revoltech versions (which are 30 ea) the increase in paint quality and proportional accuracy is well worth it. Unless you're going to start calling Revoltech overpriced too, I can't really say the same for the GNU line. I did get a revoltech anyway though; having 2 minute hand-candy is nice (but you really dont need more than one), and the GNUs stay mostly looks only. Besides, they're bigger than most stuff under the 1/60 scales, the revoltechs included. At the hand-held sizes, I dont think you can find completed figures of that caliber of detail, transforming or not. I would have appreciated a fighter version, but they'd need to take the price down 10-15 bucks to make it worthwhile.

The last time I touched a model kit, it was when I was 12, and it did not go so well. I looked at some pictures of opened kits, but the precoloring on the parts weren't that great, and it seemed like lots of additional work beyond my skill level was necessary. I could be wrong, like I said, I only had tiny resolution pictures to inspect. But it seemed that it lacked the level of detail I'd expect from a finished figure. In addition to that, I'd like it to be 1/60th scale too; that is also an appearance issue.

Yea, but I'm not a toddler, and I buy figures for their looks, not so I can crash them into each other. If something breaks when you take it out of the box, then there's an issue, I agree. However, my point is this: I'd rather have a fragile but good looking figure than have an indestructible but awkwardly proportioned one. Yes it is my opinion, but our positions are indeed different, but Im guessing that when you say 'your position', you're purchasing these toys with your children in mind. Between our two dispositions, I would say that mine is more common amongst the demographic collecting these toys. Besides, I don't know about you, but I'd rather just get my kid a Tonka. Makes more sense than fighter nose cones and head lasers sharp enough to put out an eye.

That's really too bad. I was looking forward to getting a 25 some time, but I don't have the time or skill necessary to complete a model kit and paint it to the level of sharpness that I'd demand from a figure. I value accuracy, detail and proportions as the most important traits in any of my figures, and while posability and playability is fun, I am not willing to pay a very large amount for 'hand-candy' when those primary traits are sacrificed. I have a few cheap revoltechs and figmas for those kinds of 2 minute vacations. Thus, with DX choosing to go a playability route, its worth immediately diminishes drastically. I bought 2 Yamatos recently (1/60 YF-19 and VF-0S) and did not encounter much of the problems I heard discussed about on these forums. I admit I was pretty spooked about it when buying them, but I think I've had my faith restored. The VF-0S (ver 1) was absolutely fine in every regard, and the 19 had the usual landing gear spread issue, and a looser-than-I'd-like left wing hinge, otherwise receives few complaints. I don't mind fragile figures, or a lack of high posability and a high price can be justified if the appearances in each mode are good enough, so long as it does transform (even if its a non-cannon method). Its unfortunate that there's really no other acceptable alternative with the 25 in the near future from another lineup or brand.