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VT ............... ME A POLITICIAN? SETO, SORRY THAT I COULD NOT MAKE IT BETTER. NOT ABOUT RT OR MW OR RTX.. JUST GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER MORE. SETO REMINDS ME OF SOLSCUD HAHAHA, THOSE WERE THE DAYS. HEAD ON WE WENT BUT TOOK A MW CON TO MEET AND AND START HANGING OUT. DONT REMEMBER WHAT WE ARGUED ABOUT BUT I KNOW IT WAS MUCH WORSE THAN SETO IS NOW. AH.. GOOD OLE 2002. I RESPECT THAT GUY A LOT. EXCEPT EXO.

VT MAYBE BECAUSE HE KNOWS I IGNORE HIS POSTS AND HE TOLD ME BEFORE HE DOES NOT LIKE THAT. BUT THOSE THAT KNOW ME IN PERSON I AM NOT WHAT HE IMPLIES. I DONT KNOW WHAT I NEED TO DO TO HELP SETO. HURT? DONT KNOW. I DID NOT BAN HIM. BUT I DO AGREE TO HIS BANNINGS. SETO AND I USED TO TALK. EVEN HELPED HIM WHEN I COULD. BUT SOMETIMES ONE GOES TO FAR. AND THEN ONE COMES HERE AND READS HE WAS DOING IT ON PURPOSE. HOW CAN I DEFEND HIM WHEN HE IS SAYING ALL THE CONTRARY IN PUBLIC FORUMS. I ALWAYS SAID HE HAD THE BEST ARGUMENT FOR WHAT HE BELIEVED IN THE RIGHTS ISSUE. THAT HE IS RIGHT? THEN THIS THREAD WOULD HAVE BEEN CLOSED A LOOOOOOOOONG TIME AGO. AND WOULD HAVE A RT VS MACROSS THREAD INSTEAD. WHAT COULD I SAY SORRY FOR? WHAT I DO TO HIM? OTHER THAN DISAGREE. I AM NOT MAD AT HIM FOR ALL THE THINGS HE PILES ON ME. EVEN YOU FOR THAT MATTER AND JASONC KNOWS THAT AS WELL BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WILL DRINK AND TALK ABOUT WORK AND FAMILY. EVEN THE THINGS HE SAYS HERE DOES NOT GET AT ME. BUT WHY DO I NEED TO SAY SORRY? ALL I COULD SAY IS, DUDE, WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU SETO? I GUESS SINCE I POST HERE AND BEEN AROUND HIM ITS JUST AN EASY TARGET SINCE HE HAS NO ONE TO GO AT. I AM ALL COOL WITH THAT. BUT I CANT ACKNOWLEDGE HIM TILL HE ... RELAXES. THEN MAYBE, WE CAN TALK AGAIN. HECK, IF ME AND JASONC COULD DO THE SAME..AFTER LONG SILENCES...I SAY WHY NOT. LET SETO LT OUT HIS FEELINGS. NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. BUT TO SAY SORRY? I FIRST HAVE O KNOW WHAT I DID TO HIM. AND I GUESS I AM READING THROUGH YOU WHAT HE IS SAYING. SINCE YOU TELL IT MORE....CALMLY I KNOW HOW IT FEELS. BE BANNED. YOU NOT ONLY ONE BANNED AT TR SITE.

Einherjar EXACTLY MW ORGANIZED IT A LONG TIME AGO BY JUST HAVING ON THREAD DEDICATED TO IT. FLIP IT IN RTX. DOING THE SAME THERE. KEEPING IT IN ONE PLACE. JUST THAT I THOUGHT DEBATE ALL OVER THE PLACE WOULD BE NO PROBLEM. MY BAD.

VFTF1, IT'S NOT EASY AS YOU THINK. WE DO GIVE WARNINGS. AND HE CLEANED UP HIS POSTS FOR A LITTLE WHILE. BUT HE CAN'T CONTROL HIMSELF OVER CERTAIN WORDS THAT IN ONE POST TO MANY IT BECOMES MORE OF AN ATTACK THAN EXPLAINING A POINT. RT.COM S DEAD. THEN GOOD. WON'T ARGUE ABOUT THAT. SEE, EVERYONE HAS THEIR BELIEFS. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. EVEN SETOS BELIEFS. WE DIFFER AND THATS ALL. THOSE TYPE OF POSTS ARE BEST SERVED IN THREADS LIKE THIS ONE, IN RTX ONLY IN CANON FODDER. RT.COM NOT ALLOWED. EVEN MW IS RESTRICTIVE. OPEN UP THIS THREAD TO THE WHOLE PAGE LIKE BEFORE THEN ITS A WORLD OF A MESS. THEN AGAIN, THIS IS A MACROSS PAGE.

RedWolf WHY I TYPE VERY LITTLE AND NOT ALL THE TIME...

SETO MY POINT WHY I SKIP POST LIKE THESE AND READ ON WITH OTHERS.

>EXO< YOU KNOW EXO, YOUR SICK... REALLY SICK.

J THAT'S THE THING. THE CONTRADICTION IS DIFFERENT BY EVERY FAN ON HOW THEY USE IT. THAT IT COULD MEAN MANY THINGS.

VFTF1 EXACTLY!! THANKS VFTF1 EXCEPT ABOUT SETO. I DONT SEE HIM BEING THE HEAD OF THE GROUP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT HE DOES HAVE AN EXTENDED OF BAD WORDS IN EVERY POST TOWARDS A ROBOTECH FAN. AND FANS NOTICE THROUGH HIS POST HE LIKES TO THROWN IN A FEW THERE WHILE TRYING TO PROVE A POINT. SINCE HE WAS DOING IT THE MOST IN RT.COM, RTX, AND ESPECIALLY HERE. WHICH MADE HIM AN EASY BAN. ESPECIALLY IN A PAGE THAT I AM MORE INVOLVED WITH. NOW UNLIKE JASONC, AND WHY I GET ALONG WITH THIS GUY, IS BECAUSE HE MIGHT HAVE THE SAME FEELING LIKE SETO, HE IS JUST MORE.....CIVIL ABOUT HOW HE COMMUNICATES THROUGH HIS POSTS. ARE ROBOTECH FANS BETTER BECAUSE WE DON'T CALL OUT NAMES? NO AND ACTUALLY, DON'T KNOW WHERE OR WHEN WAS THAT FIRST CAME UP BUT IT HAS BEEN THE NORM SINCE WAY BACK TO CALL A MACROSS FAN PURIST NOT ONLY WHEN "talking about tension between the original Japanese SDFM TV Macross and Robotech." BUT SEEING POST OF THAT LIKE SETO. AT RTX IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM BUT HE DOES LIKE THOSE POSTS FOR SOME REASON WHICH START FIGHTS. FOR NOT POSTING HERE, I NOTICED AFTER A WHILE WHEN THERE IS GOOD DISCUSSION, SOMEHOW OR SOMEWAY SOMEONE LIKES TO POST A "MAV OR MEMO" FOLLOWED WITH POST THAT ARE LIKE SETO. YOU COULD READ BACK AND JUST READ ALONG AND ALL IT TAKES IS THAT ONE POST TO DERAIL A DISCUSSION AT HAND. WHY ITS HARD TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS THREAD WITH FRIENDS THAT I KNOW. BUT I GUESS AS LONG AS IT'S KEPT IN HERE IT'S ALRIGHT. AND SINCE MY LAST APPEARANCE I ONLY ASK FOR ONE THING THAT IS PART OF THIS THREAD.

ROBOTECH FAN DEFINITION BY A MACROSS FAN (INSERT SETO'S COLLECTION OF WORDS TO USER NAME HERE) MACROSS FAN DEFINITION BY A ROBOTECH FAN MACROSS PURIST (REGARDLESS USER NAME) AND THEN THE REGULAR ROBOTECH/MACROSS FAN DON'T GET INVOLVED MUCH PAST A PURIST ON BOTH SIDES SIMPLE, I GUESS ONE WORD DEFINES IT ALL

J TOTALLY AGREE WE WERE THINKING IF WE HAD A DISPLAY, TO SHOW IT IN A ROOM BACK AT THE HOTEL AND JUST SHOW SOME OF THE THINGS AROUND. GET ONE DAY OR TWO. PLUS GAMES. BUT WILL KEEP YOU IN THE LOOP. WILL PM THE ORGANIZERS ABOUT THIS THREAD. PLUS KNOWING YOU ALREADY PLAY CARDS WITH MOST OF THEM YOU CAN LET THEM KNOW AS WELL. AND SURE, WILL KEEP YOU IN THE LOOP.

J, ALL COOL AS ALWAYS. WHEN THE RIGHT TIME COMES WITH WHAT WE WILL BE DOING RELATED TO ROBOTECH, I WILL POST IN AN AX THREAD WHEN SOMEONE STARTS IT. AND WHEN WE HAVE FANDOM DETAILS AS WHAT WE WANT TO DO. HG WILL HAVE THEIR OWN THING AND WE THE RTX FANDOM ARE PLANING SOMETHING ELSE LIKE ALWAYS. HG HAS NOT DISCUSSED MUCH OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND I CANT SPECULATE SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT. SO TO EARLY ON MY PART TO START COMMENTING ON SOMETHING I HAVE NO CLUE AS TO WHAT THEY WILL DO. DID NOT WANT TO PATRONIZE NAMES BUT... WE, (YOU, ME, AND PUNKR), TALKED LAST TIME AT AX ABOUT WHAT WE COULD DO TO GET EVERYONE TOGETHER AND HAVE A GOOD TIME AS FANS. I THINK YOU REMEMBER. FANS ARE FLYING IN AND SINCE I GOT TO MEET MACROSS FANS OVER THE YEARS I THINK ADDING SOMETHING TO AX THIS YEAR WOULD BENEFIT THE FANS ON BOTH SIDES. AS FANDOMS. NOT AS HG/BW THING. LAST TIME MW PRESENCE BOTH SIDES WERE AT BOTH PANELS (RT AND MW). HECK, AFTER THE PANEL WE HAD A FUN TIME WATCHING MW FANS SHOWING OFF THEIR WORKS. EXPLAINING MACROSS TO US AND JUST LAUGHING AND HAVING A GOOD TIME. NOW WHY I POSTED HERE WAS BECAUSE I EXPECTED THIS DEBATE TO START AND WOULD RATHER FLUSH OUT WHATEVER SOMEONE FEELS OUT. DON'T WANT THE AX THREAD TO TURN INTO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. RATHER NOW SINCE THE ORGANIZERS COULD GET A CHANCE TO GET TOGETHER AND SEE IF IT'S POSSIBLE OR NOT TO SHOW WHAT MW IS ABOUT. OR START WORKING ON THEIR FANDOM THINGS. AS OF NOW I POSTED IN RTX ABOUT GETTING TOGETHER (RT.FANDOM) TO START WORKING ON PLANS FOR AX. FANDOM THINGS. NOW ONCE WE GET A SPECIFIC DATE AND I WONT FORGET ABOUT YOU JASON SINCE WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THIS, I WILL POST HERE AND DO A PROPER INVITE. SO FAR I KNOW IT WILL BE AT PHRED'S HOUSE WHICH IS BY WHERE YOU USED TO LIVE IN SANTA MONICA. RTX ORGANIZERS WILL START ON BRAINSTORMING SOME IDEAS TO MAKE THE RT FANDOM MORE ENJOYABLE. AND THE MORE I KNOW WHAT MW WILL DO AT AX THEN THE MORE I CAN PROMOTE IT WITH THE REST OF THE FANDOM. SO I WONT PLAN A DINNER OR SOMETHING SO WE CAN SHOW OUR SUPPORT AND ATTEND MACROSS PANEL. ONLY PROBLEM I COULD SEE IS IF IT RUNS AT THE SAME TIME AS THE RT PANEL. AND ALSO, IF MW DECIDES TO MAKE A PRESENCE, IT'S BETTER TO GET IN THE DOOR NOW AND START SECURING TIME SLOTS. AND WITH THE BACKING OF THE ANIME CLUB FROM UCLA TO BACK THEM UP COULD MAKE THINGS EASIER. JUST RANDOM THOUGHTS.

JASON ALWAYS NEED TO THROW ONE UNDER THE BELT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER TO TELL THEM HOW I CRINGED AT YOUR HOUSE WHILE WATCHING THE SERIES BUT YEAH, THE FIRST TIME AND ONLY TIME WAS WHEN I WAS AT J'S HOUSE AND JASONC REALLY TRIED, I MEAN, DID HIS BEST TO EXPLAIN TO ME M7. WE ACTUALLY HAD THIS THREAD LIVE AT HIS HOUSE WITH OTHER FRIENDS THERE. YEAH, THE WTF MOMENT WITH A GUY SHOOTING SPEAKERS (THOUGHT THEY WERE GRENADE ATTACHMENTS) AND DID NOT BLOW UP. MAX AND HIS DIVORCE, AND I THINK I DID NOT COME BACK TO J'S HOUSE TILL THE END OF THE SHOW. WHEN I SAID, "DUDE, WHAT HAPPEN TO THEIR EARS? WHERE THEY PICKED UP THE VULCANS?... OH WELL. BUT DON'T WORRY. WHAT I COULD NOT GET VISUALLY I GET THROUGH READING FROM THE DISCUSSION OF THESE BOARDS. ALWAYS DID. REMEMBER, I BEEN A MEMBER SINCE THE 90'S AND ALWAYS READ MACROSS CONTINUITY HERE. JUST THAT READING ACTUALLY KILLED THE SHOW FOR ME. SO WHEN I STARTED READING THIS THREAD IT'S LIKE GOING BACK AND READING AN OLD BOOK. BUT SOME HOW THE STORY I AM READING IS MUCH THE SAME, AND DIFFERENT AT THE SAME TIME GIVING IT FRESHNESS.

VFTF1, THANKS FOR THE INVITE. ACTUALLY, I CAN'T PARTICIPATE.... I AM A ROBOTECH PURIST HEHEHE OK, REALLY NOW THAT I GOT YOUR ATTENTION, I CAN'T MAKE A GOOD DISCUSSION OR ADD TO THE STORY SINCE I DON'T WATCH THE SHOW. IT REALLY KILLS IT FOR ME TO WATCH. SO INSTEAD OVER TIME I HAVE ALREADY READ UP ON IT FROM WHAT YOU GUYS DISCUSS AND ADD HERE IN THE FORUMS. TO ME YOUR GUYS WRITING ARE LIKE BOOKS THAT DIVE MORE INTO WHAT I CANT SEE. WEIRD? I GUESS. BUT YOU GUYS HAVE A WAY OF EXPLAINING AND DEBATING AND CREATING SUCH A STORY THAT IT'S ACTUALLY QUITE ENJOYABLE TO IMAGINE. SCREEN CAPS HERE AND THERE WITH SIMPLE GOOGLE AND PRETTY MUCH I GET THE IDEA. AND PLUS THE CAPS KILL YOU GUYS. SO HOPE YOU DON'T MIND THAT I WILL BE READING YOU GUYS... LIKE ALWAYS. JUST KNOW THAT I AM READING AND VFTF1 JUST MAKES IT FUN.

VFTF1 ILL POST OVER THERE. THANKS FOR THE INVITE. I KNOW IT IS NOT ONE SIDED JASONC CAN YOU LOOK PAST THE HG LICENSING DEBATE FOR A WHILE JASON? EVERYTHING ROBOTECH IS POSTED IN RT.COM YOU WANT TO KNOW, THEN READ BOUT IT THERE THERE IS NOTHING ONE SIDED IN MY SUGGESTION OF A MACROSS PRESENCE. JUST THE SAME AS WHEN MW FANS INVITE RT FANS TO EVENTS BY POSTING IN RT.COM TO HAVE A GOOD TIME. SAME HERE. POSTING HERE ON AN IDEA. IF IT'S DECIDED THAT MW IS NOT NEEDED IN AX. FINE. NO BIG DEAL, WE MOVE ON AND SEE EVERYONE AT MW CON. NOBODY LOOSES. NO ONE IS SAYING TO NOT HAVE A MWCON ON IT'S OWN. AND TO MOVE EVERYTHING INTO AX. I SAY STILL HAVE MWCON. BUT IF THE ORGANIZERS WORK IT WELL, MW FANDOM CAN PROMOTE ITSELF AS WELL AT AX. DONT HAVE TO BRING ALL THE DISPLAYS OR TOYS. ONE FAN PANEL, SHOW VIDEO OR HAVE FANS TALKING ABOUT THE FANDOM AND LETTING NEW FANS OF THE SHOW KNOW THAT THERE ARE GATHERINGS OUT THERE. I MEAN, EXPOSURE IS ALSO GOOD. I THERE IS A GUEST SET BY AX TO BE AT AX, THEN TAKE ADVANTAGE AND ASK THE AX CON PERSONNEL TO ASSITS IN SITTING WITH THE FANDOM. I THOUGHT YOU KNEW THAT JASON... THEN AGAIN, JUST WAIT IT OUT TILL 2010. EITHER WAY, I WILL SEE FANS FROM HERE IN BOTH SIDE LIKE ALWAYS. WITH OR WITHOUT A MWCON PRESENCE.

Einherjar ACTUALLY LIKE I SAID.. THE FANDOM ON BOTH SIDES. AS A ROBOTECH AND MACROSS FAN I BEEN TO BOTH SIDES AND ENJOYED FRIENDSHIP FROM BOTH. AND WOULD LIKE FRIENDS COMING FROM OUTSIDE OF CALI TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A MACROSS PRESENCE AT THE SAME TIME. IT'S UP TO THE ORGANIZERS IF THEY WANT TO EXTEND SOME OF THE CON INTO AX. I WILL STILL BE ATTENDING MACROSS CON REGARDLESS. BUT ITS UP TO MACROSS WORLD ORGANIZERS IF THEY WANT TO OR NOT. AND I AM TALKING ABOUT HAVING BOTH. MACROSS WORLD CON AND A PRESENCE IN AX. ADDING: AX HAS OPENED UP REGISTRATION ALREADY AND HOPE FANS START PLANNING. THE EARLIER THINGS GET IRONED OUT THE EARLIER FANS CAN DECIDE. ESPECIALLY WITH FRONTIER, WONDER IF AX WILL HAVE SOMEONE COME FROM JAPAN. AND HAD TO SAY WHAT I HAD TO SAY AND I KNOW THE ORGANIZERS WILL DECIDE AS WELL. BACK TO READING MW EPISODE RECAP OF M7

HI THERE FELLOW MACROSS FANS. SINCE I FIGURED ANOTHER GREAT MACROSS CON WILL SHOW IT'S PRESENCE IN 2010, WAS WONDERING IF SOME OF THE CON WORKS CAN ALSO PLAY ITSELF INTO (PLEASE HOLD THE GRUNTS) ANIME EXPO . OK, I KNOW, ANIME EXPO IN THE PAST HAS REALLY LEFT SOME WONDERING ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION OF ANIME EXPO. I JUST WANT TO CONSIDER THAT SINCE THE ORGANIZERS ARE FRESH BLOOD, SINCE IT'S PAST, THAT MAYBE AND HOPING THAT IN THE 25 ANNIVERSARY OF ROBOTECH, MACROSS WORLD CON ORGANIZERS CAN PUT UP A MACROSS THEME IN ANIME EXPO. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE LOT OF RT FRIENDS AND MACROSS FRIENDS ENJOYING BOTH SIDES IN PRESENTATION. IF POSSIBLE, WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST A MACROSS FAN PANEL IF POSSIBLE TO HAVE FANS TALK ABOUT THE FANDOM. HECK, EVEN SHARE A MACROSS BOOTH. FOR COSPLAY, FANDOM WORKS HEADQUARTERS AND FANDOM ORGANIZERS. TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE PRESENCE OF MACROSS AND ROBOTECH FANS THAT WILL BE AT ANIME EXPO IN 2010. I WILL STILL ATTEND MACROS CON IN 2010. JUST A THOUGHT THAT MAYBE SOME OF THE THINGS CAN ALSO BE SHOWN AT AX. IF THE MW CON ORGANIZERS WISH IT TO BE ALL MACROSS ONLY, COOL BY ME, BUT I THINK MACROSS FANDOM COULD SHOW ITS PRESENCE THERE AND FANS LIKE ME SEE BOTH WORLDS IN ONE PLACE.

THANK YOU PETE. FROM ANN http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2003-...ight-to-macross In a serious legal blow to Studio Nue, widely perceived as the original creators and rightful owners of Macross, the Tokyo district court today ruled that the rights associated with authorship, the "author's right," for the first Macross series, belong to Tatsunoko Productions, not Studio Nue. THIS IS WHAT I STAND ON. UNLESS ANYONE CAN POINT OTHERWISE TO A LINK WHERE I CAN SEE THAT BW HAS AUTHOR RIGHTS. MORAL IS COVERED BY AUTHOR RIGHTS. THAT WHAT AUTHOR IS. NOW, THAT BEING SAID, THERE IS ONE MORE QUESTION. IF, THE COURT DOCUMENTS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, WOULD NOT THE CONTRACT BETWEEN TATSU, BW, AND SN BE IN THERE? THAT DEAL WITH INTERNATIONAL RIGHTS? AND THATS THE MISSING PUZZLE THAT I DON'T HAVE.

SETO HERE IS THIS. http://www.cric.or.jp/cric_e/csj/csj4.html

ACTUALLY, THERE IS NO GAME. WHO OWNS THE AUTHOR RIGHTS? AND HOW DOES JAPANESE LAW APPLIES. I AM NOT HERE TO CONVINCE ANYONE. SIMPLE DEBATE. ADDING MORE TO A DEBATE. BUT ITS THE SIMPLE DEBATE OF THIS THREAD FROM YEARS PASSES THAT CREATES INFORMATION. TRUE OR NOT, ONE CAN JUDGE FOR THEMSELVES. SOME HAVE MADE UP THEIR MINDS ABOUT ME..FINE. BUT ITS THE DISCUSSION THAT GENERATES INFORMATION. AND THAT'S WHAT IS ALL ABOUT. NO GAME. REALLY. SINCE WHEN I NEED PIZZA? OR ANYONE ELSE.. I ALWAYS POSTED ON MY OWN. AND NEVER EVEN MENTIONED PIZZA. FOR SERIOUS DEBATERS.. THERES IS THE INFO.. FOR DRAMA.. SORRY, CANT HELP THERE.

FIRST OFF, SORRY FOR THIS LATE REPLY. WANT TO THANK AND HATS OFF TO THE GUYS WHO PUT THIS UP, KIRIK, EXO, STAFF AND MANY OTHERS. AND TO ALL WHO ATTENDED AND PARTICIPATED. YOU GUYS ARE ALWAYS AN AWESOME CROWD. SPECIAL THANKS TO THE SPONSORS AND ANIME CLUB FOR HELPING OUT AS WELL. I HAD GREAT FUN LOOKING AT ALL THE COOL STUFF AND COLLECTIBLES. AND ALSO TALKING WITH OLD FRIENDS AND NEW. AND EXO.. FOR SPOTTING WHEN A GUYS IS DOWN. HEHEHE SEE YOU NEXT YEAR. THANKS FOR THE PICS

TATSUNOKO AUTHOR RIGHTS Japanese copyright law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_copyright_law Japanese copyright laws consist of two parts: "Author's Rights", and "Neighboring Rights", and as such, "copyright" is a convenient collective term rather than a single concept in Japan. (COPYRIGHT CONSIST OF TWO PARTS) CONTINUED..... 1.Applicability Japanese copyright law protects all works "in which thoughts or sentiments are expressed in a creative way, and which falls within the literary, scientific, artistic or musical domain". The laws automatically provide the following rights, without the need for formal declaration or registration. 2.Moral rights A)Divulgence: The author can choose when and how a work will be made available to the public. B)Authorship: The author can choose how his authorship is represented in the work (e.g., under pseudonym or anonymity). C)Integrity: The author can control the modification of a work. "Moral rights" are non-transferable. They remain with the author until they expire (see below). Although moral rights themselves cannot be waived, the exercise of moral rights is often waived by contract in certain situations, such as when an employee or contractor creates a derivative work of her/his employer's or principal's product. In such a situation, the moral rights would technically remain with the creator, but the creator would be potentially liable for breach of contract if he attempts to exercise those rights. 3.Economic rights A)Reproduction: The author can control the reproduction of a work, including photography, recording, downloading, and the like. B)Communication: The author can control how a work is to be transmitted, communicated, broadcast, performed, exhibited, etc., including how copies of the work are to be distributed. C)Adaptation: The author can control the adaptation of a work through translation, dramatization, cinematization , and the creation of derivative works in general. Unlike moral rights, economic rights can be freely transferred or relinquished. If the author transfers his economic rights to another, the holder of the economic rights becomes the "copyright holder", but the author retains authorship.

Gubaba HEHE, LUCKY FOR YOU I POST LITTLE... NEVER SEEN THE ORIGINAL MOSPEADA..

FROM A GOOD PERSON ON THIS THREAD THAT WANTS TO REALLY DEBATE. I WILL POST WHAT WE BEEN TALKING. (YOU HATE HIGH CAPS, SKIP THIS POST) WHAT I SAY IS NOT INSIDE SOURCE FROM HG SO I JUST JUSTIFY WHAT I KNOW WITH WHAT IS OUT THERE AND WHAT I HAVE COLLECTED HERE, LONG TIME AGO WITH GOOD DEBATERS, AND OFF THREAD. INLCUDING LAWYERS (MIND THAT THEY GO BY WHAT I KNOW), PEOPLE IN THE INDUSTRY HERE IN HOLLYWOOD, AT CONS AND EVENTS. 1. BW/TATSU/STUDIO NUE IN THE EARLY 80’S CREATED MACROSS. WHO DID WHAT IS IRRELEVANT BUT WHAT MATTERS THE MOST IS THE FINAL DEAL OR SAID CONTRACT. WHO SIGNED WHAT AND WHO KEPT WHAT I DON’T KNOW. 2.AT THE TIME WE KNOW THERE WAS A LINE DRAWN ON WHERE THESE RIGHTS WOULD GO TO THE SPECIFICS OF SDF MACROSS. THAT FINAL DEAL/CONTRACT IS NOT KNOW OR NEVER BEEN PUBLISHED OUTSIDE OF HG, BW, STUDIO NUE OR TATSU. JUST THAT WHATEVER BW DOES IS KEPT INSIDE OF JAPAN AND EVERYTHING ELSE OUTSIDE OF JAPAN TATSU KEEPS. (NO SPECIFICS IS KNOW). (ONLY FANDOM DEBATES) 3.AT THE TIME NONE OF THE PARTY INVOLVED COPYRIGHTED ANYTHING OR GOT DOWN TO SPECIFICS. HG GETS RIGHST THROUGH TATSU AND LATER HG EXPANDED THEM THROUGH ROBOTECH AND IN THE 90’S WENT AND STARTED CORNERING THE MARKET WITH INTERNATIONAL RIGHTS. WHAT THEN WAS A CONTRACT WITH TATSU EXCLUDING JAPAN. 4.MOVE TO YEAR 2002 AND LATER, BW DECIDES TO GO TO COURT TO FIGHT OVER SPECIFIC RIGHTS AND COPYRIGTS.. JAPAN HANDS BW SOME ELEMENTS AND TATSU OTHER ELEMENTS. PROBLEM WITH 4 IS WITH BW AND TATSU INITIAL CONTRACT HG WAS ABLE TO GET INTERNATIONAL RIGHTS EVEN BEFORE A JUDGMENT FROM THE JAPANESE COURTS. HG HAS RIGHTS THROUGH THE FIRST CONTRACT. SOMETHIG THAT BW AND ALL PARTYS INVOLVED FAILED TO NEGOTIATE INTO SPECIFICS. BEST WAY I CAN GIVE AN EXAMPLE IS, YOU ARE A RENTER IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. YOU SIGN A DEAL WITH OWNER OR LANDLORD. YOUR DEAL IS SET REGARDLES OF NEW CONTARCT WITH NEW RENETERS 20 YEARS LATER. YOUR CONTRACT IS GOLDEN TILL YOU LET IT EXPIRE OR MOVE OUT. IF LANDLORD DECIDES TO DO CHANGES TO THE COMPLEX YOU RENTING, THE LANDLORD IS STILL BINDED BY ITS INITIAL CONTRACT. WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY BREAK THAT CONTRACT AND ONE TAKES IT TO COURT. SAME HERE WITH BW. EVEN THOUGHT THEY HAVE RIGHTS WICH ONLY PERTAIN TO JAPAN (AS OF 2002 AND LATER), SINCE HG NEVER WENT INTO JAPAN TO EXPAND ON SAID RIGHTS TO INTERNATIONAL MARKET BW WAS ABLE TO TAKE JAPAN AND HG WAS ABLE TO TAKE ALL OF OUTSIDE JAPAN WITH SAID INITIAL CONTRACT. WHY THOSE PAPERS THAT BW GOT MEANS NOTHING OUTSIDE OF JAPAN. HG ALREADY EXPANDED BY RIGHT WITH ITS FIRST CONTRACT WICH OF COURSE COURTS OUTSIDE OF JAPAN WILL FIRST SITE. DEAL IS A DEAL TILL HG DOES NOT RENEW OR GIVES UP A INTERNATIONAL MARKET. BW HAS COPYRIGHT AS OF LATE 2002 TO EXPAND ON FROM THERE. BUT THEY STILL HAVE TO HONOR THE FIRST CONTRACT RIGHST THAT HG HAS BEEN GIVIN AND EXPANDED BY RIGHT IN THE 80'S AND 90'S. BUT THE NEW JUDGMENT OF JAPAN DOES NOT BREAK THAT FIRST DEAL WICH BW NEVER EXPANDED ON AND WENT AND SIGNED CONTRACTS WICH BECOMES THE CATCH 22. WISH WE ALL KNEW WHAT THOSE DEALS ARE. JASONC IS RIGHT IN ONE SENCE. IF WB WANTS TO GO INTO THE JAPANESE MARKET, THE MACROSS RLAM WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE CONSIDERABLE OR WB HAS TO FRONT UP SOME ROYALTIES TO BW. IT’S A WAIT AND SEE. 20 YEARS MACROSS WENT WITHOUT RIGHTS AND HG JUST STARTED PICKING IT UP IN THE 90’S. THAT FIRST CONTRACT IS SET IN STONE SINCE BW SIGNED THOSE DEALS WAY BACK. GET THOSE DOCUMENTS, THEN YOU KNOW WHAT HG HAS AND DON’T HAVE. TILL THEN, BW IS AT A LOSS OUTSIDE OF JAPAN. AND BW KNOWS THAT AND WHY THEY WILL NOT RAISE A FINGER OUTSIDE OF JAPAN. THEY HAVE MADE NO MOVE SINCE 2002 AND AFTER. THEY DID PUT THAT PAPER UP. THAT MEANS NOTHING TO HG. BUT THEN TAKEN DOWN. ONE THING IN HOLLYWOOD IS KNOWN, A RLAM IS AN EXPANSION IN MERCHANDISING. JUST THINK OF IT AS ANOTHER ROBOTECH VIDEO GAME. ONLY AS AN RLAM. THERE. I PUT IN SHORT. WHAT I STAND BY AND SO FAR NOTHING HAS CHANGED OUTSIDE OF JAPAN SINCE THE JUDGMENT CAME DOWN. THOSE THAT WANT TO CONTINUE TO DEBATE.. FEEL FREE TO GO AHEAD. I CAN DO IT OUTSIDE OF FORUM AS WELL. AND I WAS ALSO PERVY TO THE SAME SOURCE AS JASONC WAS. JUST THAT TO MANY FRIENDS INVLVED THAT I JUST WANT TO KEEP THE TRUCE WITH THE GUYS AT MW, SOME EX RT.MEMBERS, AND FEW POSTERS IN THIS THREAD. AND I KNOW THE BAD ONES DONT SPEAK FOR THE FANDOM. SEE YOU GUYS LATER. HEHEHE

NEW THREAD EH? HMMM.. MY ONE ARGUMENT IS ANYTHING FROM THE JAPANES COURTS DONT HOLD NOTHING AND INCLUDING THE FAN SPECULATION THAT THOSE COURT DECISIONS CHAGES ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF JAPAN. THIS WAS WELL DEBATED YEARS AGO IN THESE THREADS. SOME JUST MOVED ON AND THOSE JUST BARELY LEARNING ARE FINDING OUT THE REAL DEAL. 1. HG HAS AQUIRED THE RIGHTS INCLUDING FOR THE NEW RLAM WITH USING EVERYTHING FROM ROBOTECH 85 EPESODES DUE TO ITS FIRST AQUIRED DEALS BACK IN THE 90'S AND EARLY 80' THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN JAPAN HAD THIS COURT PAPERS STATING THE OBVIOUS DOES NOT HOLD NO TRUTH OUTSIDE OF JAPAN COURTS. 2."IF" ANYTHING IS FOUGHT OUTSIDE BY BW TO PURSUE THESE RIGHTS WILL FALL TO ITS INITIAL JUDGMENT OF TEH FIRST CONTARCT MADE IN THE BEGGINING. CAVSCOUT AND OTHERS HAVE ALREADY MADE THESE ARGUMENTS. IF BW COMES TO THE U.S AND FIGHST THESE RIGHTS WITH ITS NEW PAPERS FROM THE JAPANESE COURTS, THEY WILL BE THROWN AWAY AND RULE ON THE FIRST DEALS MADE. WICH HG BEEN SAYING ALL TEH TIME THAT THE JUDJMENT IN JAPAN CHANGES NOTHING FOR THE FUTURE OF ROBOTECH SINCE ITS INITIAL DEAL. WICH NOW WE HAVE SEEN FOR TEH FIRST TIME WITH CATALIST. THIS INFO COMES FROM NOT ONLY LAWYERS THAT I KNOW BUT AS WELL AS SAME DISCUSSIONS THAT OTHERS HERE SEEM TO HAVE WITH PEOPLE IN THE INDUSTRY. WHY I SAY, WHATEVER BW PUTS UP DOES NOT AFFECT HG OUTSIDE OF JAPAN AND THE PRODUCTION INTO THE MOVIE. IF ANYONE HAS THOSE INITIAL DEALS TO SHOW FROM THE 90'S PLEASE POST THEM UP. THOSE ARE THE ONLY THINGS THAT I HAVE NOT SEEN. AND THATS WHAT I BEEN ARGUING ALL THE TIME. SORRY SETO... BUT I STILL SAY JAPANS RECENT RULINGS AND DUCUMENTS MEAN NOTHING OUTSIDE OF JAPAN. NOW FOR THOSE THAT I KNOW, I HOPE I TRIED TO KEEP MY ARGUENT CIVIL. HEHEHE