SeminNV

HI, thanks for your message! Right now there is no problems, we have peace, the game I am/we are working on is based not on Robotech, but mostly on Macross + Mospeada and maybe Southern Cross

Looks cool! Could you do rendering without these lines?

yeap, Dartallion lent me his VF-4, now I am working on its animation, also I want to redraw texture for it As for transparacy - in the engine ther is no problem with rendering transparent object. But in this case you need to model cockpit interior. Models requirement is no more than approximately 5000 polys. Try to put everything - mesh + animation in 1 file or I do it myself. You can do animation, but I think I will take your mesh and do or redo the animation as I see it))

It seems like you have the toy)) I mean that all details are very correct. I didn't not work on the models you sent me so far, just put it into the queue Now I am busy with VF-4. Are you planning to draw a texture? If not - just send me your fnished model, I will draw the texture myself. Again, thanks for you contribution to the project!

I am gonna say that I am done with my diploma and other duties, so I am getting back to work with the project. Current task is to introduce realistic flight model for the planes. Next time all valkyries (veritechs) will be diffrent in handling. I will adjust them as I see it, but in the game all configs will be open for editing. If somebody does not like my view of planes' performance - you can simply change it as you wish. Aslo, here is the model park that we have: 1) VF-1S 2) Alpha+Beta Fighters by Ancient Angel, Breetai/Xaquri, Darrtallion (RobotechMMO team ) 3) VF-4 by (Ancient Angel, Breetai/Xaquri, Darrtallion) 4) YF-19 by Sakura Shinguji 5) VF-25 by Ironside Thanks to all contributors! The last thing - if you want to help the project with your models, but you don't want to share it with a lot of people - I promise you to encode your models before putting them into release version! I have already got Dartallion word to do so with his models.

WOW! ))) but my wow is not addressed to your modelling and animation skills only)) I am thinking of... a girl... who loves macross/PC games ... models transformable valkyries...

Hey! Not fair ! I hired him first

You are doing great! Be patient. To create my first transformable valkyrie not very detailed one (low poly, 4000 triangles ) I needed about 2-3 weeks (including time I spent for working on tutorials) for modelling/texturing/animation. I would advise you to create very general model first, without transformation. Aslo draw a texture for it - it will look much better with it, even if the texture is not perfect. The tast is quite feasible + you will get experience. Good luck! P.S. Thanks for the advertisment of my project HAHA

Guys ,I just don't get it : I have heard a lot about Toynami Beta, but where the hell is it? Any new news? will It be Beta only? And what about Alpha? Thanks!

It seems like you added a couple of shaders for materials too, not only textures

Well, Zinjo, I think we should stop it. I propose you peace! Read my post 84 please, it wil make you clear some things why I did several tactical mistakes when created this thread. We have flamed a lot, it is time to go back to business.

Thank you! I want to explain it to you. I first watched Robotech in 1991, and I was 6-7 at that time. I just watched mechas and didn't pay much attention to the story. I was born in USSR. Have you heard of it? A lot of thing were forbidden there like rock music and foreign movies. So, Robotech was one of the first foreign cartoons we wacthed as kids. And I am really greatful to Masik because we kids had 3 times more mechas than we would if they showed us Macross only. Remember being a kid? Just imagine yourself in my situation. Would you pay much attention to the diffrences mentioned?. We just loved mechas. That's what I meant. And this project is dedicated to mechas only. I got known that story about Macross and Robotech only 1-2 years ago. I don't mind switching from veritech to what? How should I call them then? Again, thank you for understanding. I appologise if I offended you somehow. But take into account that I am not typical fan like most people from that forum.

Read rules http://macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=23944, OK? It is not forbidden to have such an opinion. I AM NOT REAL MACROSS FAN LIKE YOU, got it? We are not talking about my opinion - we are talking about my project And again you gave me only emotions. Show what part of my project is connected to Robotech? Only title?

I don't want to prove you anything - you are not an admin or mod. You first with Zinjo accused my project in connections with Robotech. SO YOU SHOULD PROVE IT TO ME AND OTHERS But you cannot and you know it. From what I have just read - you got no arguments.

If you were right - I would not receice any positive comments on my project. But I got it from at least 10 here, and only you with Znjo posted negative ones. Again I asked you question: " You know this project? http://macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=16101 It seems like you like it, but it is called .....Macross/Robotech..... My opinion, you don't like mine - because I made a mistake and called it ....Robotech/Macross" And all I got were emotions. I need logic. 1) So, what the difference between my project and that one? 2) Show where my project is connected to Robotech? And the last thing -you'd better ask mods to judge us. But before that post arguments, not emotions.

I did not want to offend you , stupid idea = very wrong idea. I did not mean you of course, I know the rules. I am sorry with that, but you must understand how mad I am after your remarks You know this project? http://macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=16101 It seems like you like it, but it is called .....Macross/Robotech..... My opinion, you don't like mine - because I made a mistake and called it ....Robotech/Macross.... hehe If you don'y like this thread - don't post in it. Because of your posts some people really begin to think that it is "Robotech game")) If you use search, you will find Graham messages on Robotech: Battle Cry It means he played it thouhg he is evidently Macross fan I am sure - most macross fans will play in Robotech game, even if they prefer watching Macross and hate Robotech. You see - I found some people who help me - and they don't care about differences between Macross and Robotech. Because we are not discussing anime here, we are making a game, where everybody could fly their favorite veritechs from Macross series and some from Robotech.

1) Thanks! it is really great I wanna say that I don't share your models with otherm since I didn't get your permission to do that Also, if you like - I could cipher your models so nobody will use them Should I do it or not? 2) I like your alpha, it is much better than mine excpet 1 thing - it does not have cannon/gun. It is not a big problem, but anyway I need to reanimate it a little before using. Is your Beta transformable? 3) I have a proposal - maybe I will do animation? if you don't need the mechas to be used in your main project. 4) Haha, I have already downloaded your AGAC and MAC and Recon plane from MAcross Zero)) 5) I have some Zentraedi Mecha like Officer's pod and Recon pod and some others So, there is not problem with them. Personally I think they are much easier to model than veritech. Again, thanks for your help!

Hi! Could I borrow your models? Are they transfromable? I need it for this Public game)) I will really appriciate that, I can give mine 2 models of VF-1S and Alpha, both animated! Now I am gonna make SV-51 my email is seminnikolay_dog_gmail.com _dog_ = @ BTW, I would advise you to encode your email as I do, or there is a chance that you will receice a lot of spam! Ironside is absolutely right in his idea - we could model together all valkyries and share them with each other!

That's great, I am very happy indeed! Right, but I try no to flame/flood too much. Sometimes it happens There is no problem at all. I don't plan to go the Robotech's way only. This is stupid idea of the guy Zinjo. I meant that my project is for those who like Macross and for those who like Robotech. Nothing more. Other people who posted in this thread don't pay much attention to it. I think at this stage there is no need in SDF-1, if you have seen last screens - I am gonna make smth like the Macross city on the island. But you are right - the projects needs more different veritechs. General advice: I would advise you not to hurry for one reason. If you dol - you will consider what you are doing to be a job, not hobby so eventually you will hate it and leave it. Just do when you feel like doing This is my exp, since I am working on the project for a year Other things: 0) What format do you work with? 3ds? ms3d? other? And what program? 3D max? Ms3d? Blender? 1) Gimme your email - I will send you an archive with models, there is Beta here too, but it is not transfromable. However, you can take a texture from it. 2) Aslo, try to figure out how to attach a cannon / gun to your models as I did for VF-1S and Alpha. 3) Try to make your model transformable if possible (I am sure it won't be a problem for Beta, its transfromation is very simple one). So, there must be no holes in your model. If you know how - add a sceleton, if not - I will do it myself and I will do animation. 4) In game we need low poly stuff. This is crucial! No more than 5,000 triangles. As I said earleir - I am busy with my diploma up to the 6th of June now and then with the departure to the Netherlands. I am not sure I will write new code up to July. But I am gonna model SV-51 from Macross Zero. I am from Russia, my English is not prefect, too. Don't worry about that. People here are quite friendly. Transformable Mechas' hangar: Completed: 1) VF-1S 2) My Alpha and Dartallion' Alpha Incompleted: 3) VF-25 from Frontier by Ironside 4) YF-19 from Macross Plus by Ironside and another one I found somewhere on the web. 5) VF-4 from ? by Dartallion - hope he will give it to me)) 6) Beta fighter from Robotech/Mospeada by Marcos 7) SV-51 from Macross Zero by SeminNV

No, this is stupid idea of a guy Zinjo I meant that my project is for those who like Macross and for those who like Robotech. As for your simulator - you gonna do transformation in it? if yes - you will make it arcade, believe me If not - I see no reason in your work. And I explaine that - there are tons of mods with valkiries, but they are not transformable. Why do you think yours will be better? Hope you are not offened by that remark. I am physicist, and my work is concerned with aero ,hydro, gas dynamics, so I understand how planes operate too. But the problems is how to implement all that in the game. As for model - I could lend you some, it is not a problem for me. You can ask some people about that on the forum also. Good luck!

How about this? Macross game And stop dreaming - begin working! I didn't talk to anyone when decided to start my project. If you are willing to do it - then why do you need other people's opinion? As for help - it is very difficult to find it here and on other forums (gamedev.net, for instance) for some reasons. Unless you have already done smth - you will work alone Aslo you can find this helpful - gerwalk.net. There is an open source demo, based on Ogre3D engine. Personally, it is (or rather was) the best fan project on Macross games so far (Mine will be better soon)

There is no hurry at all, I took a pause since I am moving to Netherlands by July + need to accomplish my dimploma

I did not play RT:BC - don't have console. And if I had - I won't be develloping this project now. RT:BC is not that bad, but they could have made it better. I am trying to mimmic Macross Plus - a duel between 2 different veritechs. You are right, I noticed that when worked on rendering code. Don't take the name of the project that seriously. I am sure you have in your collection Legioss, Beta, Cyclones. If you are so crazy on Macross - throw them away. But I bet you won't. There will be all 7 mechs from Macross + 3 Mechs from Robotech So it will be 70% of Macross and 30 % of Robotech. It is just fly sim, that's all - almost no connection with the story. If you like - I will compose version only for you. Only Macross, no Robotech. Hehe.... BTW, check screenshots - they soon will be better then pics from wallpapers topic EDIT: Grammar and Spelling

One thing I am convinced in is that it will be much much better than Robotech:BattleCry

Thanks for your interest towards the project! I used to have the same ideas of yours about realism and all that, but "reality" is different. I mean that it is very difficult to mimic the movie/anime to make really cool action in the game. As one guy (Ironside) noticed - in the movie (Macross/Robotech) they cheated a lot to make it so impressive. Anyway, for some reasons not gone into, I am going to take 1-2 months pause with the project. Don't worry - the project has a BirthDay on these days, it is one year old right now (I started in May 2007). Perhaps, it shows my undying will to have it finished. And I will have it finished!