shadow strikers

Obviously macross super dimensional fortress is first, but after that chronologically what are the series in order. Not from when they were created but when each one takes place.

There's only been 1 movie. The first one is the new one. And it's still playing in theaters.

Sorry I thought there was another one.

I thought it would be a good idea to try to create a single thread to discuss the Macross Frontier movie topics. Let's try to create a single thread where people can go to discuss Frontier movie news and topics.

I debated whether to create a special Frontier movie music thread, but decided that it is too specialized and probably doesn't warrant a whole thread.

I came across this pre-order listing for what I believe to be the movie soundtrack.

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?K..._campaign=ANIME

I wonder if they will throw in any new songs along with our favorites from the series? I'm sure there will be some alternate versions of some of the current songs, and probably another medley song.

Could anyone post the link to the MF movie, not the new one the first one? Please I'm trying to look for it.

I don't know if asking for a link is against the rules. If it is, feel free to tell me and delete my post.

MW isn't going to set one up. We have neither the time nor bandwidth for that kind of operation. If you want to set one up on Livestream.com, you can do that yourself.

And you're year late. We already did a live stream discussion. And I think most people would rather watch the Blu-ray rips.

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thanks for the list, and maybe I might set a stream for this website one day. So we can all enjoy something together as one family.

R.I.P Sempai......

Don't worry, he is in a better place. But if it wasn't for max, sempai, and hikaru, I wouldn't be the ace pilot I am now.

They sing not only for themselves, but for everyone on the spaceship, or where ever their location is. They also seem to do it in the shows or movie's in order to defeat a enemy. Be it the zentradi, or those evil guys in macross 7.

Sorry forgot the enemies name in that one.

I was wondering, no more like asking, if the mods could set up some kind of stream thing to watch it all together? See when I visited one site they had this live/stream thing, were everyone could watch at once. Also if someone changed the volume on their player, it changes for you. Think of it as all of us in one room watching tv but on the internet and with macross.

I'm still practicing my punctuation and grammar, so please tell me what I need to fix. I really want to make this more legible.

Obviously I don't agree. So we're just going to have to disagree and try to get back on topic....

And yes - it's my fault. Sorry. But I figured maybe it was better to engage Shadow Strike a little bit than to let his writings flow into every single thread he's in.

Anyways...we really do need to get back on topic because I sense that any tolerance the mods might have for our discussion is probably wearing thin by this point

Therefore - maybe I'll try to wrap this up by saying that the next Macross series should address the following QUESTIONS:

1) Is war natural or is it the result of manipulation?

2) Are human beings similar to the Vajra insofar as they are just a swarm spreading in the galaxy or do they have redeeming traits (and for that matter do the Vajra have redeeming traits)?

See - basically all of the stuff we are discussing IS touched upon in all of the Macross series - I think. But the problem with how we're talking about it is that we're not referencing those series, but instead going off on tangents that are way out off topic

I'm sorry - it's my fault - I kind of let it expand... but now I fear the wrath of Exo ....

GOMENE!

Pete

How is "staying out of other creatures way" or "developing small tools to help orotect them" qualify for "acting like the little pathetic creatures they are."

Why is it pathetic to mind your own business and make useful things?

Because I think you're a smart kid who talks too much and doesn't recognize his own short comings - kind of like me when I was your age. I'd like to see you grow and develop and not be misunderstood.

I'm not at all worried, like some of our other friends here are, about your opinions being slightly unconventional - after all - how many of us older guys used to think lots of different things when we were half as old or younger - and how much we've changed our opinions in life since then?

But it would be good if you tried to work on your writing dude - because lots of people will never see the thoughts you have - all they'll see is the mess that your sentences and paragraph structure are. And you won't have the benefit of being able to actually have a conversation where you can learn something since people will keep pointing fingures at your bad form and laugh instead of discuss stuff with you.

That said - we're totally off topic.

Pete

Is it so hard for you to see pete that people are just naturally bad, you aren't born good you are taught how to be good. You learn not to make fun of him or her because he or she is different. You learn not hurt people because they did something that you think is wrong. You learn not to kill or steal and so on.

In order to change human nature you need to change the law, and vice versa.

So lets just come to a agreement here people are naturally bad but we don't have to fight because we are blessed with the gift of abundant food and so on. But we fight because people weren't given a choice. Do you agree?

Compared to a lion or a killer shark or a Cobra or a 20 foot Python - a human being is not "the fittest."

And yet human beings rule the planet.

That's because human beings can think creatively and reason - something other animals cannot do.

Don't be too harsh on Seto He got banned from Robotech.com for sardonic statements and is a bit sensitive. Besides - it just seems that there are plenty enough interesting courses for Macross to develop within the framework of the Macross universe without even having to reference Robotech

Pete

pete this is how humans rose to the top they acted like the little pathetic creatures they are stayed out of other creatures ways or developed small tools to help protect them selves that's how. Also animals can reason but food and survival come first just like a person. If you had nothing there for you like you do now if you had to acctually take care of the plants your self for crops and try to hunt your food you would be completely different then you are now surviving would be your top priority but because you never lived that life like your ancestors did thousands of years ago you can easily say we are nice we don't get grouchy we don't fight because we need too.

pete why are you trying so hard to make me see good and right? Like I said earlier I won't let you change me so I could bring pain and suffering in the future.

It's the only way to teach everyone a lesson. You can't just expect people to change you have to teach them why. Like a child for example you can't just say don't touch that it's hot, they wont learn their lesson till they get burned a little at least once. Or grown adult homo sapiens how to behave and expect them to do it they have to learn. How did we learn not to use extremely destructive weapons we say the deaths and so on so we stopped using nukes on people. How do you learn to care for someone that is being bullied you have to had been bullied at least once in your life to learn what iyt feels like.

Do you even have any idea how amazingly laugh out loud funny that sounds?

Pete

Do you know how stupid you are not know its about survival of the fittest if your species can't fight back they will die out we did that now look at us we are even more stupid and weak, but we are at the top.

Another thing in human nature is the need to know all about your self, and everything around you. That and wanting to have everything. So the thing in hong kong with the money seemed to be more powerful then the war instinct. More money is better so in the future you can afford to fight. What I see is them just saying lets work together to get alot of money then in the future we can start wars with other people to take what they have.

Finally - think about how the Cold War ended - not a single shot fired. The bad guys just got tired of not eating and never having any fun and decided - screw this! And came over to the side of the good guys.

Isn't good another point of view that isn't 100% true, because what you see as right and true some people see it as wrong and bad. Same for evil, it's just another point of view what you see as bad they see as good.

But never is it the most efficient way to resolve a dispute between people. Again - show me at least on historical example where war solved any kind of dispute in a way that was better than not having a war?

I never said it was bad or good. Once again you fail to read I said and I quote my self "its unavoidable people love to fight its in human nature", no were in that am I saying that it's bad or good.

Also people have been fighting for thousands of years, your far more primitive ancestors fought to stay dominate. Life is about fighting and I know what I am saying now is contradicting to before but its true. If the homo species didn't fight we would still be the the prey for a stronger species, if we didn't fight we wouldn't have been able to eliminate competing species and become top of the food chain you get me?

A shame... becuase I think you are missing the WHOLE point of Macross.

I am not talking about macross I'm talking about humans if you read my posts. Though even if we are a infection, and pest you guys kinda grew on me. Dang now im starting to like you guy's if this "love" and so on keeps up I may end up using my plans to bring peace. Well they're easy plans to follow nothing to hard or to dramatic but it could bring peace. But if I stop you guys or anyone from showing this "love" then I wont change into a good person and I could use the plans for evil. Like I become a high ranking admiral or something and "accidentally" start a 20 year war.

I wasn't aware that I was a pest and infestation....

Can pests and infestations listen to songs? Becuase really, I think that's what is important here!

I'm talking about people 6.3 billion and growing.

07/01/09 6,768,167,712

08/01/09 6,774,705,647

09/01/09 6,781,243,583

10/01/09 6,787,570,618

11/01/09 6,794,108,554

12/01/09 6,800,435,588

01/01/10 6,806,973,524

02/01/10 6,813,511,460

03/01/10 6,819,416,692

04/01/10 6,825,954,628

05/01/10 6,832,281,663

06/01/10 6,838,819,599

07/01/10 6,845,146,634

here's the definition for infestation ill provide two.

1.The presence of a large number of organisms in an area or field

2.invade in great numbers

We sure are we just can't stay in one place, we sure can't stop growing in size and destroy rare or valuable resources and land. All's we do is scurry off to a location mate and mate and mate growing and growing. Then spreading off infesting the whole planet with disease ridden pest. That's all we are we are a pest we just steal from the land then move on only caring about our selves. So like any pest and infestation what do you do you end it, i.e where war and action take place. I really could careless about people.

And the great part about this is in Christianity, I'm still going to heaven because all the requirements in that religion are you follow the 10 commandments and believe Jesus is your savior. Yes I know it a primitive practice to believe we are so special we are loved by a great being. But I don't want to take the chance so I follow it. That and after 16 years you get hooked on it because of Christmas and all the stuff.

Pete fighting is in human nature we fight for space what we want and so on. You can't say fighting brings nothing because it brought you your home where you live and so on. It's what kept you from having to be ruled by a queen or king. Also fighting could be more then just shooting and so on it could fighting verbally. Even that brings you stuff, another thing to add 200,000 years ago when even more primitive homo species then our selves lived all's we did was fight to be dominant and so on. If it wasn't for fighting we wouldn't have been competing for dominance and become the pest and infestation we are now.

And they end up with NOTHING - hence war is futile.

Believe it or not - war, like slavery, is economically inefficient and insofar as human beings are self-interested by nature, they tend to try to serve their interests rather than not. Nowhere in history has war ever led to any advance in human civilization. Always war has led to destruction. And before you raise the point that the damage of warfare was something that allowed for new construction, google the broken window fallacy.

Whenever and whereever men fight over land, resources and other objectives rather than competing for them peacefully, waste and poverty follows.

It is not a coincidence that the most impoverished places on Earth are also the most war-wracked. Capital acculumation, which is the condition for human progress, does not happen under conditions of warfare - this is why most people strive to maintain peace.

And if you want to be exact - please just look at the statistics. There are roughly 6 billion human beings on Earth.

Not even 1% of that number are engaged in warfare. Even if we account for the millions displaced by war, it is still a radically small number compared to the growing population of people who are ONLY engaged in peaceful exchange and voluntary cooperation.

So everything, I think, in your premise is flat out wrong. War does not serve the ends for which it is often waged - whatever those ends, noble or even ignoble - they could be achieved EASIER and in a more EFFFICIENT manner through peaceful acquisition. War is also not a natural human activity insofar as it is not necessary to the survival of the species - in fact it threatens the survival of the species and is not unlike a cancer or a virus - it is an accident that occurs in a minute fraction of the population due to a variety of circumstances.

As for the pictures - I can post 10 hot guys if 10 hot girls doesn't do it for you

Pete

War isn't unavoidable... you obviously haven't listened to Basara's song enough!

Thats a song now lets look at real life. War is unavoidable other wise we wouldn't fight if wanted too. But because the primitive instinct kicks in, they all start going on with man I really want that land or the resource or those objects.

It's not anyone's fault but it's hard or impossible to remove 200,000 years off biological programing.

Don't pander about temporal mechanics with me kid (note, I don't know how old you are, you may be older than me, but I call a lot of people kid despite age). I think most people ignore my more science babble oriented posts because they just don't care (I don't blame them), but I do know a bit about of what I speak. Granted I'm no expert in the fields of theoretical physics, but the idea of universe ending paradoxes are quite old and not commonly accepted by most theoretical physicists anymore. That is if they even believe time travel is possible, some don't.

There is no point in talking about this though as Pete was just making a joke about the time loop bit and I only responded to that because I'm a nerd and it is funny to see me go out of my way like that for no reason, lol.

Macross Addict support/talk group.

Hello, my name is shadow strikers and I'm a macross addict.

Bought figures games movie's, and every night it's a macross dream.

SUPPORT GROUP: Don't worry shadow we will help you along with the rest of the crazies here.

Shadow: Who the **** you calling crazy B*** you be F*** crazy

Support group: no I'd be F*** goofy

Okay, take your time and write properly. Let's see some proper spelling, grammar, and punctuation. It'll make it a lot easier to understand what you're trying to say.

In fact, I DID answer your question, and my response was essentially the same as David Hingtgen's... that what you're asking for is Robotech, not Macross. Macross has always been about love stories and music. The mecha, wars, and all the rest are just a backdrop upon which the love story can play out. Macross's writers can write new, compelling characters and settings, so they don't need to fall back on Robotech cop-outs like having apocalyptic war after apocalyptic war, each one with "new" mecha to disguise weak or absent characterization and plot development.

Nobody's here to debate your bizarre views on humanity, and you're entitled to your opinion about what you'd like to see in a future Macross series. What we're telling you is that you've missed the entire point Macross, which is NOT war or giant fighting robots, but rather the love stories, the music, and often the futility of war.

But war is unavoidable so how does it make it futile. Because it's only human nature to fight for dumb things and kill your own species and try to conquer. Just like in the anime the zentradi built for war it's what they like and so do people they like war.

Don't tell me that isn't true because if you do your lying, why else do they all fight?

But I understand what your getting at, macross is a love story kinda like a soap opera, with love drama and the occasional fighting scenes to help the love and plot go on.

Shadow Strike:

Pete

exactly nothing.

So would you get off my back on the grammar and punctuation, at least im trying to be like the old people. Also if you can read plain english and understand some txt acronyms, then you'll be able to read them.

Okay, take your time and write properly. Let's see some proper spelling, grammar, and punctuation. It'll make it a lot easier to understand what you're trying to say.

In fact, I DID answer your question, and my response was essentially the same as David Hingtgen's... that what you're asking for is Robotech, not Macross. Macross has always been about love stories and music. The mecha, wars, and all the rest are just a backdrop upon which the love story can play out. Macross's writers can write new, compelling characters and settings, so they don't need to fall back on Robotech cop-outs like having apocalyptic war after apocalyptic war, each one with "new" mecha to disguise weak or absent characterization and plot development.

Well why didn't you just say that earlier. I would of been easier if you did as followed, No shadow striker we all hate you but here's how its played out. They don't need new wars, and mecha every time they want to make a new series, other wise it would make the plot seem poorly made.

My grammar and punctuation isn't great but I'm actually a smart kid if you ever see me in rl.