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Will look forward to it. Any extra confirmation is useful. That would be a telltale sign. Something to ask would be whether it came with the SDF-1 poster or not, but it being a secondhand purchase could muddle things. The next thing to check would be whether or not a OUT 8 printing makes reference to the first pressing or not and whether it states its own pressing issue number. (The gold books, TIAs, and novels do this for example.) The copyright info is on pg. 260 in the initial pressing, so, if it's possible, would you mind relaying any info there?

I'm assuming this was a stateside purchase, correct? Pretty curious then, since that means it took two years (Showa 59 = 1984) from the (commissioned) printing to move it to the U.S. as anecdotal evidence points to 1986 being the year of availability. This also means that, unless there was another reissue, that there is no 1986 reprint as stated on the main site. Looks like there's simply a lot of unreliable and mixed information floating around concerning the history of this reference.

I posted about this earlier in April (when it really was news ), but it couldn't stand on a topic on it's own: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?...st&p=739826 . There's a starter pack and there are regular individual packs/boxes as well. The playing mat is pretty much another take on the launch poster:

If it is an OUT 8, would you mind posting the numbers on the top right hand corner of the front cover (located within the small text above the two S's pictured here)? I'm still trying to pin down that reissue date.

See this post which was posted earlier in this topic here. The Taiwanese have been pretty good at bootlegging in the past, from books to CDs. Actually, a lot of print material for distribution Hong Kong and Taiwan are pretty much simply officially sanctioned bootlegs; the quality is still pretty good but not quite near that used in the Japanese publications. (For instance, Mikimoto's art book Innocence, has a counterpart in the form of a large print collection named Pure for sale in Taiwan, which only included a subset of the artwork).

Looks pretty cool and like something to get. Do you know if you'd be able to pick up another one?

Correct, there are a number of images of original artwork - the cover itself for instance. Most, if not all, of his published art books contain original art that he's done. Although, to name a few series in included Innocence, there are Gundam, Gunbuster, and Record of Lodoss War among others. Generally, the ones that looks less "anime-ish" tend to be artwork that isn't attached to any particular anime or game.

Clicking the arrow in the small red box at the top of the particular quote will take you to the post and topic in question for more information. Although, a photo from the current owner, ruskiiVFaussie, can be found here.

Haruhiko Mikimoto knows about it in at least an offhand sense.

If you were expecting a DYRL for Macross 7, I'm sure you were sorely disappointed. It was pretty much an extra episode in the series. Something small and easy to milk the franchise popularity afterwards, I presume. Hmm, don't quite ever remember seeing Ray with a keytar in the cockpit, but it admittedly has been quite a few years since I've watched the series. A keyboard system is still somewhat plausible, but the drum system is definitely pushing it. I suppose that system might have actually seen action depending on who passed out first in the final battle. Maybe Kawamori will figure out the logistics one day.

You got pretty far if you got to the Valkyrie with the drums. Although, I believe that one was piloted normally, since it was a two-seater, and I doubt Ray was playing anything while piloting. So, you'd really only have a problem with the guitar and bass piloting, which are similar enough to say you had a problem with only one control system. Presuming the cockpit is spacious enough, the guitar/bass itself could act as a gigantic control yoke. Rudder pedals probably wouldn't change much, and the throttle I'm not certain about. Of course, I'm sure the ridiculousness and complexity of such a system has been debated before, but it's probably possible, but I'm no expert and I haven't taken into account how the Gs on the pilot would affect the utility of such controls. (The anime did, however, state that Basara did do some extensive G training was better than Gamlin at handling them if I'm not mistaken. For Mylene, let's just chalk it up to her bloodline. As for Veffidas playing drums under Ray's special forces piloting, well, she is Zentradi and was able to beat up a number of strong guy Zentradi before joining the band.) If the literature said that Basara and Mylene were playing while using traditional controls, that'd be pretty far off, but I don't think Macross 7 went that far in its implausibility. That said, I can't believe the introduction of one wacko control system is what made you turn away from Macross 7, unless you're a diehard plane buff, which I presume some members are. Some of the other stuff introduced in the series was a little off kilter, so I'll still give you the benefit of the doubt.

I guess I'll come in a say that I don't believe I'm lacking anything in needing to watch. Although, many people who may have seen Macross 7 may not have seen all the "Macross 7 Plus" omake animation shorts that were slated every 8 or so episodes, unless you've recently downloaded Central Anime's batch, I believe. I don't know if the groups doing the remaster release have been doing them as well. Back when Macross 7 was released on the net in RealMedia format in 320x240 or so resolution files on Sailor Seven (believe that's what the websites name was), I know they were missing a number of them and I had to dig around the net for some time to find them.

Probably too early to tell; it's only been one episode. Dattebayo is pretty much the mainstay in the fansub community for Bleach and previously Naruto, I believe. Live-Evil has a longer history and has done a much greater breath of anime from past to recent. I believe gg only mainly received name recognition around when Code Geass aired. CoalGuys got their traction with Toradora!, starting out with that as their debut series if I recall correctly. Both Code Geass and Toradora! lean on the recent side, but the respective groups basically were what people chose for those respective shows. Of course, gg did do Macross Frontier as well. That's only in terms of speaking of the fansub groups. Individuals within fansub groups, particularly translators, I've never really kept track of. You can search AniDB to see what kind of anime different groups have done. Both collaboration groups seem to have solid name recognition behind them, so just wait and see. In my opinion, however, I believe DB and L-E did a better job with episode one as I stated previously.

You may want sample other fansub groups. To me, it didn't feel like that episode was a particularly strong showing for the gg and CoalGuys collaboration. The DB and L-E team-up seemed to flow better in my opinion. They used "atomic watch" which seems a little more plausible. Also, they used "mecca" when Kyon specifically said "mecca." The CoalGuys and gg team decided to dumb it down to "holy ground" which somewhat changes the meaning of the word when used figuratively.

According to an advertisement June 26, 2009:

From the picture you provided, they are without a doubt bootlegs - in my mind at least. Too much of the artwork featured is unnaturally cropped in comparison to the original sources. Also, the Animage magazine insert deck was not standard dimensioned; it was slightly smaller and the paper stock was not one that you'd necessarily want to regularly play with. The bootleg of that deck was, however, standard sized and made of the usual waxy playing card stock. (You can tell which one is the bootleg when you have both; the decrease in image quality is noticeable when comparing the two. I actually received the bootleg deck through a transaction with a member here whom I presume didn't know it was a bootleg.)

Actually most if not all of those 2-piece shots were originally done for PC-9801 platform-based games (see MW:Games) which were released between 1994-95, a few years before that specific card collection in 2000. As for the Brocolli Special Edition promotional cards, I believe the following should clear up a few questions. Since the hermetic seal is actually coming apart in the back, there does appear to be a paper (possible advertisement) insert included, but I haven't decided whether or not to fully open the pack, yet.

Pretty much, Totoro242. I think it would be a disservice to potential collectors, telling them that you can't get a poster with the reprint when numerous members have provided anecdotal evidence stating otherwise. It also pretty much explains why an OUT 8 version is virtually nowhere to be found on online Japanese auctions. Let us know what's inside when you receive it, akim!

I was wondering why the auction price for the old Macross 7 band score book had been going down lately. The new one appears to have a much greater breadth of songs:

I'd be wary of repeating the "no poster" rumor associated with the OUT 8 reprint, since the only place that is claimed is on the main MW site and that conflicts with anecdotal information. (See the research I did here.) The MW page also incorrectly lists the initial print date, which can be seen from the dust jacket pictures included on the page, detracting from the accuracy of the information there. Plus, all other reprints of Macross books have included attached posters, notably the Gold Book. Pretty much the dust jacket and the actual covers have only minor differences while the contents are the same.

Information Site: http://www.carddas.com/macross/ . Preview Video: http://bandaitv.jp/streaming/macross_crusadePV_cnnbu3.asx . I'm guessing cards for the other series will be released later. You guys at MacrossWorld Con should hold a tournament.

I'd be interested in knowing whether anyone else collects Japanese telephone cards featuring Macross artwork.

I'd recommend going ahead and getting the Broccoli Special Edition base set from eecsman as well then, if you don't already have it. At $20 for each set, I think the Broccoli cards are a better buy over the Perfect Collection 2 cards. See his sale topic for details and pics. The following are the specials from the Perfect Collection 2 cards for reference:

It depends on what you're gunning for. It's only the regular set of 72 that eecsman is offering judging from the photo he's provided. So, you get the regular cards with no option of specials. With a box, you're guaranteed four specials - and, if my assumption is correct, four unique specials - plus around 70 of the 72 regular cards. (One box was missing two DYRL cards while the other was missing a checklist card and a Macross II card.) So, it requires a little bit of trading to complete the regular set, but you also have 4 specials in your hands. If you absolutely don't care about the specials, eecsman is likely a good option indeed. However, if you think you might want a few specials to go with your regular set, a box may be better instead.

Two (2) boxes minimum will likely net you a complete regular set, if you're simply purchasing boxes. From data I compiled from two different boxes, it appears that two (2) regular cards will be missing from a single box. So, I'd recommend buying one box and trading for the two missing regular cards if you're only going for the regular set of 72. (If you're going for completing the specials as well, you're going to need to buy two boxes without trading anyway, as stated below.) Three (3) boxes minimum are required for completing the special set. Each box only contains 4 specials per box and you have 9 cards to collect, so you need to bite at least three times assuming no duplicate specials within a box. I didn't come across duplicates within a box so I assume that they are collated accordingly, but you need to be mindful of duplicates between boxes. Keep in mind that trading cards are used to make money as a product, so it's less likely that cards would be simply randomly collated (within a box) and more likely that they'd stack the odds against you. If all you had to do was buy one box to get a complete set, they'd be better off just selling you a numerically ordered set!