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My most memorable and favourite Macross song would be Xiao Pai Long. Ya know why? That's the song that got stuck in my head when I played the NES version of Macross ages ago before I watched Robotech about 2 years later and then SDF Macross another 2 years after that. Its nostalgic.

2nd would be DYRL and then followed by the M7 songs...most of all HOLY LONELY NIGHT!!!

You think there's enough here on these shelves to buy a decent car?

Prime's at an disadvantage. VF-1S has a Strike Cannon.

May I ask, how did you repositioned the arms of the pilots? I wanna reposition mine as well. Kinda snapped one arm off the dodgy glue job....but I can't figure how'd you reposition it without recasting a new one...

the pilot arms are have different between kakizaki and MAX

kakizaki I just cut off his both arms

than split the right arm into 3 parts and change

the angle (need make some operation) and join it again

but the max one ...

because I lose his right arm,

so I recast it by using " blu-tack"

if I do this job again, I will take some photo for you

Thanks mate. Recast with blue tack? Uhhhhhh....sounds dodgy yet interesting. I'll have to see what you mean by that. hehehee.

May I ask, how did you repositioned the arms of the pilots? I wanna reposition mine as well. Kinda snapped one arm off the dodgy glue job....but I can't figure how'd you reposition it without recasting a new one...

excellent work! Love your poses as well!

Actually, I'd say the opposite. It was some of the hardcore fans that panned Ep.1 and 2 at length and in no uncertain terms. The ones that grew up eating, breathing, and crapping Star Wars. And loved it because lo', it was good. Those who ate up lots of the EU and were yet discerning enough to know poop when they saw it.

And boy did they. You gotta be "hardcore" in some respect to have such a vehement opinion about something one way or another. Giving a real damn at all is indication of "hardcore" to me, not the willingness to take whatever that's got Kawamari or Lucas stamped on it.

-Al

Again, you're arguing semantics on the definition of "hardcore fans". You're totally missing the point.

But its ok. I've said what I wanna say.

errr, no.

Most of the people here in MW-forum are hard-core fans.

and most of us, iirc, still don't like M7. Duke Togo used to have a poll stuff showing how MW-members (old-board and new-board) felt about M7 or something. Check with him, I guess.

I don't wanna argue the semantics , ok? You can call yourself hardcore fan or uber hardcore fan. But a person who likes Macross just because its Macross, even if its crap is more a rabid fan than you are, if you don't like it. That's just all i'm trying to say. Its senseless, of course. But that's what fans, which are short for fanatics, are. Personally, I am very afraid of Trekkies.

Personally I don't consider myself a hardcore Macross fan. I don't particularly laud Macross 7, just like most people here who don't mind it but wouldn't introduce it to friends. So I guess I don't have the same uber hate towards Macross 7 that 50% of MW does. That's all.

The Q-rau indeed looks nice. How much does it cost for those who have pre-ordered? MmMMm....shiny....

Abit off topic, but the M&Ms on the magazine scan has black canopies! w00ts!! But the ones shown in the Wonder Festival 2004 thread still have their red/blue canopies respectively. So...what color are the canopies gonna be?

Yup, just reserved mine for 9999 at TRU-J. I'm actually supose to be on a bit of a toy diet, but man... it's Miria. I hope the wife understands.

9999....uhh...is that in USD??!? It had better not be....

I don't buy the "you're not a Macross fan unless you like Mac 7" bit. Some of us were Macross fans long before Mac 7 was created. And stayed Macross fans after Mac+. Just because Kawamori decided afterwards to pump out something decidedly not in line with our expectations, our tastes, and our preferences, and we don't automatically eat it up... doesn't make us any less "real Macross fans".

I didn't want to judge people on who's a "real fan" or not. Maybe I should rephrase it. Probably "hardcore fans" ? Again, I take Star Wars 1&2 as an example. We all know how crap the shows are. SW Fans know how crap it was. But its probably the hardcore fans who stood by it, just because its Star Wars. Regular fans who loved the old triology were disappointed with 1&2 and how different it was from 4,5,6. I apply the same situation here in Macross SDF right up to Macross 7.

I seem to be the former in regards to Macross 7. I just loved Macross and was more willing to love anything Macross, even 7. Sure I was kinda disappointed at 1st, and then I tried to love it. And you know what, eventually I did.

BOMBAH!!!

and again.....

Stay call fanboys! This one is the censored version.

which episode and when was this topless misa pic at??

But that did happen. Recall the three spies and their reactions to seeing the beauty pagent. And when they were inside the ship itself, they had culture shock all around.

Yeah...but it wasn't the kind of culture shock that effected the zentraedis totally unwilling to fight. I'd say it was something mild, compared to listening to Min May sing.

Radd: I totally agree with you there, especially about your quote from Arthur C Clarke. But i'm just hoping its not something too corny. I never thought of it as magic, but they will probably say "these people's (anima spiritia?) DNA have some kinda genetic code that allows them to.....do uber powered thingos....". I don't know. But we'll find out soon enough, hopefully.

On an unrelated note, sometimes I think Basara is the illegitimate child of Minmay and Kaifun. Kaifun drilled anti-war into Basara and Minmay taught him how to sing.

N00b question, but why doesn't yamato release stuff in the same scale with each other? IE: The Macross plus and Macross Seven lines, were not 1/60. Macross 7 was 1/65 and Macross Plus was....1/70-something, and later, Macross Zero at 1/100. Is it because the actual scaling of the planes are too big to be released in 1/60 thus making it not viable to release as toys?

The SDF-1 transforming... engh, I can see that. But I draw the line with Battle 7. A capital-scale ship should NOT have hands and fingers a gun pod. Not in any show that's related to a serious story such as Macross.

Ok, I'm gonna be the nice guy here. About a month ago in the n00b thread I posted this question. I'm not gonna find the exact page that is on but, I think it was Azrael who said that the transformation would give the Battle 7 a better firing arc. Something like a tank's turret only that its omni-directional by 180 degrees. Its faster to move the arm/gun than to move the whole ship to target something. It makes sense IMHO.

I'm not goint to argue that faith and belief in a cause doesn't help you fight (or do just about anything) better, but somebody's expression of belief in their own cause in the form of singing cannot cause you to go crazy w/ convulsions and lose your own fighting edge. If they're going to get so crazy with the deviations for normalcy, they should pull a gundam and whip out another timeline for it.

I just thought of a funny one. What if I intercepted your military broadcast channel (or better yet, used speakerpods) and started blasting the "Barney the Purple Dinosaur Song" on it while we're in battle. Would that drive you go crazy with convulsions and make you lose your own fighting edge? I'd think so.

But seriously, the whole faith/belief thing was what Basara's idealistic character thinks. I mean, come on, he tried to sing and move the mountain. It just shows how idealistic (or stupid) Basara is. Of course his singing alone doesn't have much effect on the enemy, but later they introduced the idea that he had some innate power called Anima Spiritia, and the power can be harnessed with Dr. Chiba's devices. And then Basara becomes a brat and runs off to ponder on what he really is singing for (when he realises his singing is just for a weapon for the military).

The Anima Spiritia of the past protodevlin wars probably had other means of using their power than singing, as the power of Spiritia is more of the power of faith and the will to live, rather than the power of singing. (that's what I think anyway) The stronger the belief, the stronger the power. This is proven on numerous occasions on how certain people's spiritia increases as they fight to save their lives. And how the Jamming Birds fail so miserably since they keep screaming like wussies in battle.

SO for all those who were kinda upset towards the magic/singing thing. Don't be too upset. The way I see it, its probably not so mystical as they made it seem and its not really that deviating from the original macross. If its just singing to cause culture shock in Macross SDF, why didn't the Zentradi get culture shock at other radio/tv broadcasts that they were intercepting? Why must it only be Min May? Does she have this "anima spiritia" as well that she could cause culture shock unaided by any gadgets other than a microphone? I refer you back to Macross 7 encore, fleet of the strongest women. It was only Basara who could cause the culture shock on the Meltrandi fleet. Mylene wasn't doing much in terms of culture shocking. (and of course, max and milia were having fun culture shocking too )

My 2 cents.

Japanese in general don't have any REAL religion. Their "religion" is somewhat from Buddhism roots but it kinda deviated into strange ness and thus you get shrine maidens, lucky charms, wishing wells etc. Its more of a cultural thing than a religion thing if you get what i mean.

Christianity is probably the least penetrated religion in Japan. Historically the Portugeses spread the religion among the samurai but they christian samurai were quickly purged and wiped out.

So about Kawamori, doesn't mean he does some Christian things in the anime makes him a Christian. Putting Christianity in anime probably has much reason as putting ENGRISH in the songs and names in the anime.

Strange that I get none of this floppiness you guys mentioned with my 1/60 VF-1S Strike Valk. The thing's still sturdy as ever after like 20-30 over transformations. Must be lucky.

Macross 7 was not what I expected. Kinda beared through the 1st few episodes with dread and after awhile i grew to like it. I mean, ignore all the "attack of the week" segments which I felt could be done without. Don't ask geeky Macross questions like how much ships in the M7 fleet has been destroyed and how insane their casualties are.

Concentrate instead on the characters and their lives. If you want cool mecha action, M7 is not for you, maybe a few gem moments here and there but its mostly repeated animation anyway.

I'd think, you can never truly be a Macross fan until you learn to love M7, this slightly deformed child of "big giant froating head".

PS: I love Fire Bomber...gotta be one of the best compilations for anime ever.

I've noticed most fans of a given franchise don't like what the show is really about. They like whatever it is they wanted it to be or what they thought it was before, and the nostalgia.

This is very true. I take Star Wars as an example. "Fans" hated episode 1 & 2 because they wanted the original triology and the feelings it evoked. Eps 1& 2 failed utterly on this. I wouldn't think Episode 1 & 2 are bad if I've never seen Star Wars in my entire life.

macross 7, eh, I've watched some of it, and I just rlly, don't like it. It's not even that I don't like JPOP, I actually do like the music.. but I mean... the concept is a little over the top. Macross 7 is to Macross Series as G-Gundam is to Gundam. But at least G-Gundam was an alternate universe. People fighting each other by screaming songs is a little bit ridiculous if you ask me

You don't understand M7's concept then, since you've only seen some of it. Its not about people fighting by screaming at each other. Its about spiritual energy. The power of belief and faith. Singing is just a medium to express that energy. Don't know much about it, but we'll probably learn more from Macross Zero (hopefully) what's the deal with singing and powers.

Does anyone know exactly the VF-1 floats? In water I mean. I can't think of any instances from the show, but in DYRL? the super ostrich in floating in the water outside the Protocultre ruin. Its in like half-GERWALK mode, with the arms in fighter mode, but the legs unattached from the body, and the backpack flipped up. The legs are also angled down slightly. Does it have so kind of internal floatation devies of somthing?

*EDIT* If you're looking for where it is in the movie, its at 00:58:57.

In Macross Zero, the VF-0 also floats on water.

I'm just guessing its probably as simple as the fact that the Valks are air tight and probably have enough balast in the legs and body to keep them afloat.

If you had this TheFrenchOne in your Evangelion collection, you'd be pretty happy.

I really want this....but at the way things are going, it seems there's gonna be a major shortage of eva volume 9 to meet preorders and demand.

Lotus: most probably a corrupted file. Not sure if the file on the server is corrupted or it got corrupted in transit. Use Gspot (video utility) to determine its codec and see what's wrong with it. If it doesn't render, then it is indeed corrupted.

hehe, nice collection! And nice collection of Eva's. I was wondering if you have the gold version of eva - 01 by sega? looks like you might need that to complete that collection.     

all mine are here. I know that at least the 13rd angel & berserk eva 1 are missing in my collection but i passed on them (no more room )

You're missing the winged and unwinged EVA05 series from Kaiyodo. Those are pretty kick ass stuff. Damn, you have the Soul Of Chogokin evas....too *(!@&*(! expensive for their size imho. Not sure how much you bought it for, but they were worth a 1/60 valk here.

Well, this is my collection.

My collection

It has a very humble Macross section though. Can't afford alotta valks.

PS: loved what you did with the eva poses.

Wow..all this talk about HK and shopping, I'm planning on a trip on April.

I took some dude's advice (the dude who did the TV Max custom i think), and used gundam marker to line my VF-1S valk, and then use an eraser to clean them up. It looks great! I'm abit afraid to line the head lasers though, cause not very sure how i'm gonna get enough space for me to line them properly and erase them without breaking them.

Advice needed: would it turn out ok if I lined the yellow stripes on the chest panel? I left that our for now cause I fear it might look weird.