VF-25 Messiah

Protoculture having valkyries is something I wouldn't want to see. Would take something away from them if that happened. Modular SA ships? Sure why not. Anyway, I'm not against the idea, but it wouldn't be Macross. Sure make the story, say it happens within the same timeline... but slap a different name on it, since it's going to be a different product anyway. Anyway I like what Macross currently is doing, and that is looking forward, and evolving. Just my opinion though.

You mean he wants us to listen to Mylene?

Tuna buns. Relieves everyone of stress and lets them see the comical in a situation.

The first image is where Sheryl and Alto have their dinner. I do not think it is Ozma's place. It could very well be in the same neighborhood, though. Well I guess... except I think the fact that they look nothing alike at all, is even more so... I should perhaps elaborate when I said "It makes the sense that is the same" I was not refering to the building being the same as the apartment shown in ep 23. Rather I mean that the room we saw in episode 19 (which i didn't screen cap earlier) is from inside the big lit up building. To illustrate things more clearly: Sheryls place Where Ranka was staying when working for the goverment. So, it is not option 3.

Sheryl used 帰る, which is to return; to come home; to go home; to go back. It's not a verb she'd use if he was already home. Also, this is why I think it's not 3: The apartment in ep 23. This is where I believe Ranka was staying in ep 19. The first picture fits over the bottom one. I admit I can be mistaken in asociating the latter building with the bedroom that was shown just prior to it. But it makes the most sense that they're same.

1. No real indication that it would be this. 2. Given that Sheryl tells Alto to "not go home", I would say this seems likely. 3. It doesn't look the part. Of course I might be mistaken to asociate the building seen early in episode 19, with the bedroom seen just before it. 4. See 1. Now is lack of indication proof that it isn't Alto's place? Not really no, but given we have a (however slight you may feel it is) indication that it might be Sheryls, I'm going to go with that until proven otherwise. And it would be "gasp! first time on air!" for being sheryl's apartment too.

If you're refering to scene in the beginning of episode 19, then my initial reaction would be to say no. That place was bigger, grander... got the feeling that it was perhaps something of a goverment hotel or something. Of course I'm perhaps mistaken when I asociate the bedroom we see Ranka in, with the big litup building we see in the next scene, with guards stationed outside and Brera sitting on the roof playing his harmonica. That Ai-kun promptly appears on the roof, tells me it is at least close by however.

I'm going to say again, that I think that's Sheryls apartment. She must have lived somewhere before the hospital, or when taken in the Saotome mansion... perhaps she aquired it after she started working for Leon even. Why do I say its Sheryl's? Because Sheryl says "You mustn't go home!" when he's carrying her. Sure, it's not much to go by perhaps, Sheryl might have been confused as to where she was at the moment, but what indication is it that it was Alto's?

And just before that he was saying "Rashiku nai ze" in regards to Sheryl. "Muri mo nai ka" is more like "I guess its no surprise." I interpret it as either being, it's no surprise because of a) the disease in general. b) she's not taking the pills.

I agree that would be interesting, but it wouldn't really feel like macross then. Cuz it'd have no macrosses in it... and no valkyries The latter being the assured reason of why it'll never get made.

And it turned out to be... where Sheryl lives.

Kind of HQ raw out... Huge avi file with unusual resolution

Perfectly fine. Most of the people who have a problem with him here do so because of the TV-series. And then there's people who don't have a problem with him at all. He's quite a lot calmer in dynamite, doubt there's going to be anything that'll make you really dislike him within the four episodes.

Same could be said for the subs really. But I know what you mean. I was being very careful to avoid being biased in what little i actually did throw out a translation for.

It certainly looked like that way.

Well didn't expect this dialouge.

Which is a japanese style house and doesn't look anything like what we see here. Or did they ever show there was a western house connected to it somewhere?

Don't really think the "Bird human" movie was primarily conceived as a militairy propaganda and recruitment stunt.

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Agreed, all bets are off. I currently cannot see how things will end (or rather I can see too many different possible outcomes) of how the plot ends, how the triangle will be resolved and who lives or doesn't. I'm certain that tomorrow will bring a slew of new possible outcomes as I re-evaluate everything again.

You're quite right. What makes it non-canon is Kawamori and Studio Nue denouncing it as non-canon

Huh? Ther was nothing new like. It's been like that since the deculture edition. EDIT: Out of curiosity, I checked my blue ray and the same can be said for all three versions of the episode. Once the evacuation alert is sounded, all scenes with Sheryl and all of her lines in all three versions of the episode are exactly the same. The closest thing to a difference that I noticed was that there is a 1-second shot of Alto's face as he is standing on the roof of the concert hall where his attention gets shifted to Cathy saying "Hurry and get in the car" off screen, is missing in the TV broadcast but present in both other versions.

THE one-and-true ending will be known by everyone in a little over 15 days time from now People will most likely still be bickering about it a looong time after that