DarrinG

Great take, I see all your points. The only further thing I might add is the test of time with these designs. 20 years from now will the VF25 be celebrated in the same breath (or close) with the other VFs of the distant past? Those things are hard to see at the present time. But later, like when 2 people have 'used cars to sell', one a RAV4 the other an Aztec, finding a buyer can shed some light on which design has past the test of time, and which design didn't do so well.

Fair, I agree. For example, people did buy the Pontiac Aztec and it wouldn't be right for me to walk up to them and say they coulda had a RAV4 for the same money. They were in the middle of enjoying it and it in bad taste to try to steal their fun. I was just conversating and wondering if it was just me that thought the new designs were looking a little too 'spindly' compared to the heavier VFs of old . . . I need to watch some of the new anime (when I find time) and see if that gives me a different perspective.

VF25 - a 'high performance machine' - yeah - with a pocket knife. How about 'spindly samurai insect'. The VF2SS fighter heavy armor looks like a heavy armor space machine. Never saw the anime so maybe it doesn't perform so well. I've never seen other shows really besides the original that's why my perspective was unique. I'm not a fan of Macross II in any way, or Frontier. You must have seen Frontier and become a fan and its now clouding your judgement. But thanks for clearly things up for me, I'm not being a fuddy-duddy, just unbiased . . .

To your Point - It would be difficult to get those SR Wars mechs to transform into a sleek plane. But it seems like a better balance of beefy and transformable was achieved in the past. The Frontier VFs seem to be sacrificing too much coolness in the battroid design for the sleekness of the other modes. Does that makes sense? Or am I just being a ol' fuddy-duddy?

Oh - I guess that shows my age. Looking at my own chest plate or not, it looks like the VF2SS could beat the tar out of the VF25. You're right, the VF2SS does look like an update the the original designs, that's probably why I like it so much. After looking more at that UN Spacey site, I think the super armor Frontier designs are cluttered and very badly done compared to Macross and Macross II. BUT - I graduated high school in 90 - so there ya go. I'm not against all modern mech designs like it sounds though. These Super Robot Wars designs look modern, beefy and less cluttered to me . . .

Ahhh - maybe this is why the VF2SS doesn't get as much love here: "Macross II is categorized as a parallel world and is not part of the official Macross continuity AD 2092 (parallel world)" Maybe I need to go to the "newbie" area to educate myself. But out of these 2 I know which I would want to pilot! (maybe someone here will point out why the VF2SS isn't as good as it looks though)

I would like to check out the Macross II destroids but did not see them here: http://www.new-un-spacy.com/macross2/macross2-index.html Is there another place to see these destroids "on steroids" as they've been called? I still think this is the best VF design since the originals - it doesn't seem to get much love in these MW circles: http://www.new-un-spacy.com/macross2/vf-2ss.htm By contrast, the VF25 is an fragile looking, over-designed, cluttered up, samurai insect . . .

$39? Missed that. Do you have a green and shadow you'd like to sell that aren't totally broken? You said you had 'bunches' so I wasn't sure if you might want to unload a few . . .

I will only make these observations as a fresh perspective to many readers here that are probably very used to seeing these later designs. I've only recently seen them so you might be surprised to hear what a Macross fan thinks of the other series 'chunky to wasp-like' designs. This is a cool site and I've learned much here about non-original series Macross designs . . . But what in the world is this mech? Am I to believe the feet are the tail fins?? Why did this not go straight to the cutting room floor? http://www.new-un-spacy.com/macrossplus/va-3.htm Other than the TV or DYRL original VFs, I've only really liked this design: http://www.new-un-spacy.com/macross2/vf-2ss.htm But I have not seen any of the animation for the VF-2SS so I can only go by the still shots. And this? THIS is supposed to be a destroid? From an outside casual opinion, if Tomahawks and Monsters get 10s this gets a 1.23 design / coolness rating . . . http://www.new-un-spacy.com/macrosszero/cheyenne.htm

In other Mospeada news . . . Robotech.com still has the Masterpiece Alphas at 59.99, with the Shadow listed as "NEW". I need the green and the shadow yet but I'm waiting for another price drop - what's the hold up?

I'm pretty much a fan of the original TV version only, but consider myself to have good taste in collectables and design. So from my limited perspective I can say that I have like almost NOTHING since the original show and DYRL. The frontier VF designs are borderline terrible except for fighter mode. A knife? For real? And what is this other Quarter giant mech? Sorry - the only way the original SDF 'attacker mode' is acceptable to me what that is changed into that shape more by accident. The reason we're still coming to this website is the amazing timeless original designs - and they have not been bested. Having said this - thank the good Lord! With all the Yamato original TV version toys and Mospeada stuff coming out I couldn't afford anything else even if I loved it . . .

Would the 1/72 Hasegawa ground crew set be visually off too much for the 1/60 Yamato line? I couldn't put them in the same display as the ones that come with my Destroids probably . . .

As far as getting the CMs re-release set for the new guns and then selling them off and keeping the new accessories for my Toynami sets - not sure it would work. Anyone trying to sell the old set in any way will have trouble now that folks know there's an improved release in the works. I would have to sell off that CMs Legioss and Tread at such a loss that the new guns would end up costing me around $100+. BETTER would be if Toynami is watching and they're dreaming up and Appendix set for THEIR Beta line. It's too bad Toynami didn't put holes for the missile and bomb clusters in the Beta wings! DEAR TOYNAMI, Please throw a Alpha Gatling Gun and Scope into a future Beta release, Beta Appendix or the Cyclone SaddleBag and Headless Helmut Appendix - anywhere will be fine. Thank you

Want the new gatling gun and scope for my Toynami sets! But how can this be done? Must find a way . . .

Please don't post comments like this. Not only is it stupid its against the rules. Thanks

OK - someone here must know how to get this ground crew and vehicles! Anyone? Anyone?

DEFENDERS of my CUBE The ground crew makes these so much fun. PLEASE Yamato - at least 4 more guys with the Phalanx.

Not sure if you're referring to the red 'mouth' on the Tomahawk or not, but I wish they had made that green and brighter instead. When its green I see that as the eye visor and the top 2 machine guns as cool horn like things. When its red I see that as a mouth and the top 2 guns as eyes - very frog like. Its awesome no matter though . . .

Great cut-away art of the Regult! I have never seen that before! YES - massive size and all I will be in for 2, 1 Recon and 1 Glaug. The Perfect Memory book puts the top height of the Z soldier coming to only the top of the VF chest, I would let Yamato cheat that a bit more and go another 1/2 below that if they had to for cost / size reasons.

Agree with the canopy rainbow thing, can't hardly see it in person. The photo studio lightly brings it out or something.

Don't listen to him Yamato! He's probably from Bandai just trying to talk you out of making the 1/60 Regults! Even if he isn't I will buy his share of Regults, posable or no posable pilots. Since I'm sinking $800 + dollars into your VF 1/60 line I promise I will go a few hundred dollars more for 2 Regults, a Glaug and a green TV version Q-rau . . .

In case anyone reviews these posts to evaluate interest: WE WANT 1/60 REGULTS / GLAUG / GNERL too! If doing it with posable, removable pilots would be too cost prohibitive, and force your scale to be too large, than we can live without the pilots - but we'd be kinda sad. And anyone within the sound of my voice that has a 1/60 VF - PLEASE buy at least ONE REGULT! Thank you for your support . . .

OK - let me revise my "Zentraedi soldiers in a 2 pack" comment. After reviewing my Perfect Memory book size chart, a Z soldier height will only come up to the top of a VF chest. This is likely too small and obscure for a company to take a chance on as a separate release. I would buy them but I might be in the minority. So we're not liable to get Zentraedi soldiers unless they come with a really large Regult release. Hopefully they'll have the guts to do 1/60 Regults eventually. So back to the GN-U line and what it would take for them to get my money; A Glaug, Q-rau, Hovertank, ride armors or even Legioss! - we have enough VFs!! (doubt they have the mospeada license though)

Those elbows and that heat shield are not line-art accurate to my eyes. And when I say something different I mean like Zentraedi soldiers in a 2 pack, one green, the other brown or something. Someone also said here they could fit into the 1/60 pods Yamato hopefully is working on - who wouldn't want that!?!

Yep - ground crew. And a missile transport / missile reloading vehicle for the Phalanx please, or least 4 guys this time if I can't get a missile truck.