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Also note how quickly he tied Djibril's escape to the Archangel.  Rey essentially told Shinn and Luna that they failed to capture Djibril because of the AA's intervention, now look what happened.  Keep them nice and angry at the AA.

You say it like it wasn't a truthful observation.

Cute how the Archangel gang witness the deaths of millions, yet can't even bring themselves to really care. A madman just committed one of the greatest attrocities the Cosmic Era has ever seen, but all they do is take a minute to be gloomy then they're back to their vendetta against the Chairman, listening to Lacus' wild guesses and assumptions and high-fiving each other at the prospect of going after Dullindal.

Hell, he tried to have them killed (not that they have anything silly like proof of that), that plus an old notebook found on a long abandoned colony obviously is concrete evidence that he is evil incarnate looking to rule the human race as Emperor and much more important an issue than a genocidal maniac with a super weapon!

Is Meyrin so heartless that a devastating blow taken by her homeland means nothing to her?

(I'd say yes when you take into account early in the series how she didn't even bother to visit her sister when she nearly died, and that she had no problem at all sitting on the bridge of the Archangel while it tried it's best to kill the Minerva, a ship full of all her friends, comrades and family since Lunamaria wasn't launched until the end of the battle)

Just also reading Gundam SEED Astray Manga, do co-ordinators have telepathic abilities? Tokyopop's editor notes seem say so, but I am loathes to believe that.

Nope, that was a strange screwup on Tokyopop's part. Rest assured, they're not telepathic.

Also, congratulations to Kira, Athrun, Cagalli and the Archangel for their fine job of stopping ZAFT from getting into Orb to capture Djibril last week - this week, Djibril killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Coordinators.

Orb deserves to be bombed back into the stone age.

Talk about a lot of bad press about this...

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God, who cares. So they replaced an unexceptional voice actress who played the part of one of Zeta's worst and least interesting characters, big deal.

Yukana sounded good to me in the trailer, which gave me a little hope that the movie will somehow put a new spin on the entire Four arc to make it not be as terrible as it was in the tv show.

People who want to pine over some VA and want things to be as identical to the original version as possible can just keep on watching the tv series as far as I'm concerned.

You know, I love Gundam and all, but Bandai America really blew it on this one. After the suprise hit with Wing, I would have loved to see them go back and reanimate the original Gundam.

Because we sure do need to see the OYW yet again! Two versions of it just weren't enough!

Kira and friends have spent the entire war protecting their own little clique at the expense of all others, even those on the right side of the conflict.

ZAFT had been fighting a defensive war against a force hell bent on genocide, yet on the assumption that ZAFT sent assassins to kill Lacus, Kira leapt to the conclusion that ZAFT is evil and untrustworthy, then proceeded to inflict heavy damage against any faction that crossed his path, no matter what they were doing or how many people it indirectly killed thanks to the chaos he provoked.

The orders to take out Freedom and the Archangel weren't bad things. They were both extremely dangerous rogue forces wandering the planet with no allegiance to anybody but themselves striking against whoever they pleased. Taking out Lacus isn't exactly a bad call either, since she just happens to be the head of another rogue faction, with hidden treaty violating nuclear powered mobile suits, battleships, weapons factories, and is busy stealing ZAFT technologies and weaponry for her own purposes. Purposes based on paranoia similar to Kira's - remember a couple of episodes ago, her explaination that ZAFT will turn against Orb because Orb will stand in the way of the Chairmans plans... except she actually said she didn't even know what he was doing other than vague new world order suspicions?

Lets not even mention the utterly insane leap Athrun took to "The Chairman is going to destroy the world!" based on the fact that the Chairman took out his best friend (that best friend who tore him to pieces not so long ago because his sister was upset!)

And now with this latest episode, in part because of their defense of Orb (notice Kira only opened fire on ZAFT, what happened to disarming both sides to end conflicts?) the greatest enemy of peace that exists has been allowed to escape into space, by the look of the next episode preview ready to launch another massive strike against innocent coordinator civilians.

If the 'Requiem' superweapon actually manages to hit PLANT, Orb and friends won't just have blood on their hands, they'll be up to their knees in it.

Dullandil is a schemer, and is likely not as benevolent as he may outwardly appear. He's looking a lot like a case of someone using some underhanded methods to achieve worthy purposes - ends justifying the means. You can add up what he's done; his rather machiavelian acts would be attempted assassination of Lacus, destruction of Freedom, destruction of Archangel (none of these pleasant, but not entirely unwarranted either), and military strikes against two locations offering safe haven to those responsible for orchestrating the current war. In the process, Natural/Coordinator tensions have been eased, the war between Earth and PLANT effectively ended, nations oppressed by the EA have been freed.

His actions and those of ZAFT thusfar have brought about results that serve the greater good much more than the old casts "War is bad, we want to save everyone, but people we personally care about are most important" approach which has quite literally achieved nothing.

Hmm I will agree that Kira would make an awesome "Bad Guy" but with his personalty the way it is now, I dont think that would happen without a major event or two in his life.

He may as well be a bad guy now, because he, his friends and their precious Orb sure as hell aren't 'good guys'.

If I remember correctly, Gundam Seed, when it aired, was the first really big AU Gundam hit in a long while (since wing, I think, but I don't remember how well wing did).  It did exceptionally well, only losing in ratings to Full Metal Alchemist, which, by the way, was a great show.

The first big anything in a long time, since ithe only Gundam series to ever rate better is Zeta.

SEED also ended up rating slightly better than FMA.

I think GSD is shown either Very late at night since its not even dawn there in Japan yet, or like VERY VERY early in the morning.

Destiny is shown in prime time - 6:30pm Saturday nights. Destiny's ratings are good without being great - it's rating about 15% lower than SEED and Fullmetal Alchemist did in the same timeslot (although it's outselling SEED in dvds, and outselling FMA in dvd by a lot)

Money Sunrise/Bandai have made off Gundam for the last couple of years is -

Fiscal 2000 (the year ending March 2001) - 16 billion yen

Fiscal 2001 (the year ending March 2002) - 20 billion yen

Fiscal 2002 (the year ending March 2003) - 27.2 billion yen

Fiscal 2003 (the year ending March 2004) - 32 billion yen

Fiscal 2004 (the year ending March 2005) - 25.1 billion yen

For perspective, 32 billion yen is about 295 million US dollars.

A 'good amount' of cash.

Gunbuster wasn't a love story, did you miss the whole part about Amano & Coach?

A minor subplot does not a love story make.

Lord help anybody who picks these up, the show has NOT aged well, at all.

It's one of those shows that makes you wonder what they hell you were thinking as a kid to have liked something that was so bad.

Both use similar concepts but the focus of each is completely different.

i can't remember. Do you have any web site to recommend so that i can re-download the software? This is the show that i have downloaded "Mobile Suit Gundam Seed Destiny ep 41 Raw (x264 640x480 60fps VBR)".  Does it required any additional program to be installed?

As the filename says, it's encoded with the new x264/h264 codec.

Install FFDSHOW and have it handle the file - http://www.animetorrents.com/x264/

Looks like it could be a decent popcorn movie.

Even if it's not, it's not like it will exactly dishonor the license, Doom is the most utterly plotless and generic story you could ever find. The last game wasn't even good.

if he gets credited as "The Rock," then won't Vince McMahon(?) get a cut of whatever he makes?

Nope. He was a smart guy and actually bought out the rights to the "The Rock" name off McMahon.

dunno what GOUF stands for

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Guardian Of Unity Forerunner.

Bwah?  How the hell did Lacus get the Gaia??  That's too much of a plot hole not to address in the actual series.  Dang....

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Do people have zero imagination anymore? Do you really need everything spelt out for you in exact detail?

How they got Gaia is completely unimportant, and not a 'plot hole'.

So what's the allure of these guys?  What do they have that a model or an MSIA don't?

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They're a middle ground of detail and convenience.

I absolutely hate putting together models, but MSIAs tend to be a bit too toy like - GFF gives you a model like quality display figure, except it's all ready made and finished the way an MSIA is.

The Fix Figuration quality varies with each release much like anything. Ones like GFF Crossbones, GFF F-91 are good. Ones like the GFF Zeta are complete disasters.

Impulse's sales were crap,

People seem to like saying this, but I've never seen any factual basis for this claim.

GaoGaiGar - either the entire hero team versus EI-01 in episode 30, or Gaogaigar versus the Zonuda in episode 49.

I'm getting more and more nervous that the Strike-Freedom figure doesn't have detachable Dragoons.  Lord, I hope this isn't the case, cause it's a beautiful figure.

I hope it doesn't have detachable ones - detachable ones are just asking for instability and pieces that can be lost.

Infinite Justice looks......(wait for it).......infinitely better than the Justice AMSIA!  *ba-doom-boom*

A true MSIA of Justice would be nice one of these days.

Except it's not, unless you're one of those mindless "it's all ripped from the UC!!" zealots.

How do you figure it's not?

Because you just did nothing but describe plot elements (plot elements that incidently the majority of the time only carried superficial similarities to similar events in the original Gundam) and nothing about the actual universe itself.

I haven't seen Turn A outside of one episode. Maybe once I clear some disc space, I'll check it out. I'm so behind. Any fansub group recommendations?

There's really only two groups doing it. Anime-Gundam does good work, but they're very slow because they're basically down to one guy who does almost everything. They're about to release only the 19th episode, while Hero-Legends is almost finished with the show (recently released episode 47). I haven't seen HL's Turn A, but their Gundam X, which I wanted to replace my old fansubs, wasn't too impressive. The quality of the encoding sucked and I don't think they translated it themselves. It looked like they just lifted the subs from older fansubs and put them on an HK rip.

Hero Legends work on Turn-A is completely unlike what they did with Gundam X, which was basically just a side project for them while they were stalled on their main projects. They were ripped from HK dvds, weren't encoded well, only had HK subs with corrections made and were all pushed out very quickly.

Their Turn-A releases however are their own translation, and are done from the R2 dvds.

You mean, aside from the fact that it's a pale immitation of the UC universe?

Except it's not, unless you're one of those mindless "it's all ripped from the UC!!" zealots.

Like I said, Hathaway's Flash, F-90 and Silhouette Formula, and Crossbone Gundam should be annimated.  That'd help fill the gaps between Char's Counterattack, F-91, and Victory, and help make the whole thing more cohesive.

It doesn't need 'cohesion', some of the worst pieces of the Gundam franchise came from that terrible idea (namely 0083). The story has been told, it doesn't need to be over-told or bloated with even more added on irrelevance.

Apart from the fact some of these fill in UC bits sound like utter tripe (F-90 - yet another Zeon element arising, another plot to devestate Earth, two competing Gundams with AI systems based on Amuro and Char? Give me a break.) they don't have much wider appeal or in Crossbone's case (unfortunately) it has the black mark of being the followup to one of the frachises failures. The fact the next attempt at Gundam jumped 30 years away from F-91 to distance itself from it should say how much they care about reopening that chapter.

Whoa....some people here would lynch u for that! Not me tho. Ive only seen Zeta so I dont know what Im missing......   Hehehe Im for more Cosmic Era 

You're missing a couple of quite good series/movies that are well worth watching.

I don't say it because the UC is bad, I say it because it's time has long, long passed.

More than likely they'll made another SEED sooner or later, becuase, as someone on the Gundam board put it "you could label dog crap with SEED, and it would be a best seller."

Much like the same way the "Universal Century" label is an instant fanboy magnet.

I'd like to see more of the Cosmic Era - there's lots out there behind the main scenes that they can look at, Astray among other things. It just needs a new writer, a new point of view and most of all, some planning and structure - SEED and Destiny both to varying degrees betray their "made up as they go" nature, and I think it really harmed Destiny... especially when we essentially got 20 episodes of the show in a holding pattern since they didn't have anywhere to go or anything of vital importance to do.

UC should stay in it's grave where it belongs.

You got 3 experience pilots,  flying at the time, the most advance fighter planes in their arsenal and then have one "prototype" unmanned fighter plane built by a independant government/company??  planning to taking over production with their new toy.  Oh, and the umanned plane gets damaged and begin to have a mine of its own and starts its' destruction and mayhem on the planet.  Of course you know how the rest of the story goes. 

Now does this not sound somewhat similar with attributes to Macross Plus or is it just me?

Uh, yeah it is just you, since nothing at all you've described there sounds like what happens in Macross Plus.

At best it has tiny similarities to the events in one episode of Macross Plus, and those similarities are stretches.

MO SU PI DA

Mo Supida (Mow spee-da)

Mo Speeder

Mo(tor) Speeder

Cyclones.

It's Mospeeder.

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Boy, I guess you better head on over to Japan then and tell them they put the wrong name on their dvd covers!

That's actually too bad, I thought they were pretty good and they had been subbing destiny almost like next day releae compared to Seedfansubs whose taking their sweet time in my opinion oh well.....guess I go back to them.

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SEED-Fansubs typically take 2-3 days to release an episode rather than 24 hours like Cellphone.

Boy are people spoilt these days. Try watching a series that isn't a popular new release and you might get an idea of what "sweet time" really is!