DrClay

i want it...

i'll buy it...

oooooooooooooooo.... must.... have....

good for you...most people here aren't too in love with that toy, but I certainly like it.

what's all this conspiracy talk surrounding a quote of MY post?

what conspiracy?

cause of a secret?

i mean, everyone wonders what happened to the YF-19,

it's been delayed... why?

because the guy who's sculpting it is working on the Koneig... if Yamato didn't want to ruin the surprise they'd have to keep the reason for the delay (konieg) a secret.

that's what I meant, it seems reasonable to me... it's not some Yamato conspiracy.

Well, Yamato hired What's-His-Face to sculpt it. What's-His-Face had previously produced a YF-19 kit and and Konieg Monster kit... They go all silent, now they show off the Monster! I think we haven't heard about the 19 'cause it was put on hold while What's-His-Face designed the monster, and the secretive nature surrounding the reason for the delay of the 19 was to keep the monster a secret.

Seems obvious to me....

OMG!!!

ok, now give it to me!

Disclaimer: These are my opinions and my opinions alone. I do not consider these opinions to be the absolute and only expression of the topic matter and do respect other's opinions which may contradict and differ from my epression. Feel free to post your own opinions but don't use my expressions as launchpads to senseless bashing and OT threads. Thank you.

so sad, we need disclaimers now...

Hi well,I am from Chile i am rookie in the macross robotech toys,and i would like to ask you any information about the different toy line mark,for example;

Can you tell me wich toy line(Bandai,Yamato,etc)you think are the best??

Wich toys are the most "hard to find"???

And,the other day i saw the robotech series again,and suddenly on very next moment after rick escape with lisa through the centraedy fortress came out the escape,he drive a rare Macross valkirye...suddenly this machine start to launch missils for all over body part,can you tell me the name of this model???

Well, thats it,sory for my InnGlish,jeje.Thans,

Héctor.

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P.S. to all y'all MWers who will undoubtedly find my response offinsive, at least I didn't chew him out about checkin' the boards or doin' his own research... my laughter is at all the predictable responses about what makes Bandai better or Yamato better or Toynami not so bad that will be repeated over and over again.... (feel free to prove me wrong, I'd enjoy the change!)

hey what about the heatshield, to change the color you need to do a lot of masking? pardon me but i juz started out on modelling, i hope to change it one of these days

what are you talking about? you don't have to change the heat shield... Even if you wanted it black, you should just swap it out from the same valk that the head came from.

I say, release as a limited edition... I'd buy it...

...an 18 inch tall valk....

....drool...

where do the macross 2 fans go? hahahaha

Macross 2 has fans?

If you've been coming here a long time, how come you don't know that every thread like this gets locked posthaste?

waittaminute!!! Are you telling me that threads like this gets locked posthaste?

forthwith

I own one MPC roy

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE I MADE. GO WITH THE YAMMIE

J.J.

I think this sums up the anti-MPC arguement perfectly, considerate MWers just want to help others benefit from their mistakes...

Personally, I LOVE the MPC.... Convoy, that is.

I own a roy MPC and I spent full price on it, and let me tell ya, it still irks me to this day how I got ripped off, I feel stupid for having bought it, I feel like a victim of a crime almost. I wouldn't want anyone else to have such a thing happen to them, even Hurin.

If you've been coming here a long time, how come you don't know that every thread like this gets locked posthaste?

whatever, dude.

OMG!!!!! Yamato has gone out of business!!!!

their tryin' to figure out what's the biggest size box that they could possablly use for this armour.

They figure, "if this accessory comes in a box the size of a super 1:48, then we can charge $180!! ooooooooor maybe we could put it in a box twice as big and charge close to $400. OR, on the basis that you could put this armor on the valk of your choice... since theirs like 9 1:60 scale valks out, they could charge $600... oh the possibilities are ENDLE$$

tuna is chicken of the sea.

brown is the new black.

I am the Homer of my house.

If you think this is expensive wait till they decide to release a 1/48 Q-RAU (granbeetle runs and hides from the 1/48 haters   )

I would throw whatever moneys Yamato demanded out of me for THAT! (DrClay stands in defiance of the 1:48 haters )

I'd rather have a DYRL hand that could hold the gun to be honest.

it's the LEFT hand hes talking about, except for the skeleton hands out now, NO yammies' left hands have been able to hold a gun!

so I can say, what the price  we accept, that's what the price we get.

If one day ,we accept a 1/48 Vf-1 selling at 49800 yen, than yamato will

really going for that price, because we tell yamato "that's worth it".

This is exactly why some U.S. MWers "beat the dead horse" about the high price of the Q-Rau. Personally, I defend my postion that it is overpriced repeatedly because I hope that some others will be influenced to send a message to Yamato that "Fair is fair, but the price of the Q-Rau is ridiculous" I am NOT saying that I won't be happy until I can get a 1:24 all-diecastmetal perfect transformation remote controlled flying Yamato VF-xx with super articulated pilot controlled by A.I. from wal-mart for $2, and I am certainly not bitching for bitching's sake. Until now, I've always felt that Yamato's toys have been worth every penny (MAYBE the fast packs were a bit too high for what they were, but I still got three).

My criticism is that the value of the toy is much less than the price. Two possible solutions:

1.) raise the value Address fans negative issues with the toy itself (impossible, MWers can't even agree on what is good about an existing toy, much less suggest how to create a good toy. Plus, the toy is already out there, it is what it is... )

2.) lower the price If we all keep being Yamatowhores, Yamato will make us their bitches. the HK market obviously knows what's up! Yamato knows that they won't pay unfair high prices just because that's what's printed on the box so they don't overcharge. I'm sure MY reaction to this toy would've been as positive as Graham's had I gotten it for that price.)

I believe this is a valid critique with a viable solution. And when this post garners all sorts of negative reactions, I will respond. For everyone who says "You can say what you want only ONCE" i say "it depends on the purpose of the post" I can't get the price lowered by myself... I hope to influence others. If we as a large group send a message to Yamato that we won't pay whatever they feel like asking, maybe we can KEEP costs around reasonable levels. The PLETHORA of (also repetitive) posts I've seen from other MWers telling Q-rau's detractors where they can stick their opinions, and acting personally insulted that someone might have suggested that they think before they do something with their own money. Only serve only to influence others in the opposite direction: Drive the prices up, up, UP! Someone's telling me what I can and can't spend MY OWN MONEY on?!?!?!?! I'll show them! I'll buy a million Q-raus at whatever price Yamato asks! HA HA HAHAHAHAHA! I gave ALL my money to Yamato because it was MINE to give! (of course, now you have to give ALL of your money to Yamato if you want to own ONE of the toys they make.)

500,000,000 posts beat a dead horse into my court, I beat it back.

The price would be right if the legs were diecast and the Millia figure poseable.

exactly! Yamato needs to at least ATTEMPT to justify their prices with their toys.

You just quoted someone saying that this toy can be had for $105 to support your argument. At least be consistent with your facts.

Also, we really don't know the details of manufacturing and marketing.

and at the other 1:60 that, while smaller, would probably cost a similar amount to produce)

Are you including the cost of design and tooling in that? Consider that based on market research (if any), Yamato probably doesn't expect to sell as many Q-Rau (all variants) as Valks (all variants). Which means the startup costs have to be amortized over a smaller number of units.

Last time I checked, $105 was more than $100.

Hayao posted that he saw that the Q-Rau was slated to cost a similar price to the 1:60 VF-1

considering that the Vf-1's had Die-cast metal with all the cost-increasing manufacturing problems that die-cast metal introduces, and that the VF-1 has a transformation scheme with all the design and development issues that also raise the price there... and considering that the VF-1 was released into a completely untested market (Yamato's first forray into Macross toys surely had to be MUCH scarier than their twentieth... ), the VF-1 surely had to cost at least as much to produce as the q-rau. The cost of the 1:60 VF-1 is justified. A similar price for the Q-rau would also have been justified, and according to Hayao's post, it looks like me getting a Q-rau for $80 was the ORIGINAL plan... the $100+ price tag (printed on the box) was added at the last minute because they KNOW (*cough/$60 fast pack sets/cough*) we would pay it.

but sure, maybe the smallness of the initial run of Q-raus is the whole reason for the ludicrous price. are you thinking that if the Q-rau proves to be a success at this price, and Yamato makes lots more, they would lower the price? HA!

everyone here who FEIRCELY defends the price of the Q-Rau is sending Yamato this message:

Americans will pay ten dollars per inch (regardless of quality). Q-Rau measures (made of all plastic) 12" at tippy top of her anttena... $120.

Release a 1:48 Macross plus valk (made of polystyrene) 18" long (or thereabouts) in fighter, and we'll pay $180

Release a 1:24 VF-1 (non-transforming, made of cardboard) 26" (approx.) in fighter, and (you guessed it) MWer's will be schooling me about the high cost of little companies making big toys from little licenses in defense of the $260 price tag.

P.S. I'm not saying that the above pricing scheme is what I think Yamato will actually do, but it is clearly the message we are sending with our wallets.

<----poops himself.