Kronnang Dunn

or maybe aside from the music, the perceived popularity of M7 was because it was the first true TV series that followed the original SDFM, hence it had a fanbase that was still very enthusiastic about the franchise. whether or not they still remained enthusiastic after M7... well, judging by your post, looks like it could be mixed.

Err... I read somewhere that one of the main reasons for M7 success in Japan was the fact that during that time (the 90s) there were lots of Fire Bomber type bands in the entertainment scene there... Those were the popular things back then. Right now is more about pop divas and stuff I believe, ergo the success of Sheryl and Ranka...

Have to jump in with more M7 harping... never saw it, never will...

I used to think both Macross II and 7 weren't that good. But after watching them I liked the designs a lot. Also, right now I'm a Guitar Hero/Rockband freak... and I just realised that Basara from 7 had a guitar controler in his valkyrie!!! (nearly a decade before it was invented).

I haven't seen Macross Dynamite 7 completely and some episodes of Macross 7. Yeah, I know I should...

Mac II is the only big one I'm missing, and I have no interest in it.

You should. Its got pretty good non-Kawamori designs. Koichi Ohata and the other designers did a good work creating new Valkyries/Destroids. The battleships also look very good. There are 2 old Pc Engine games that are prequels to the alternate continuity of Mac II and also have very good mecha and character designs.

Kamjin was still a weak villain.

NO! HOW YOU DARE? PUNY MICLONE...!!!

Actually I believe Kawamori's attitude toward canon is very practical. By not making any version the official one he is leaving an universe of possibilities open for future projects. Besides, I like the fact he dedicates completely to re-invent/create new concepts for each Macross project. That way he keeps them pretty fresh, interesting and innovative...

Madness ? she may be completely sane for a Cyborg. From their perspective we are the insane, irrational ones. And before you call her a "crazy" scientist, try to understand her a bit more. She is doing something that make perfect sense. Although she's slightly obsessive/compulsive when it comes to being in control, she's probably one of the most rational character in the series.

She is more of a program then a machine. Grace came back from death at least twice. It's possible to appreciate the excellent precision and elegance that makes a beautiful program. Now tell me why human beauty isn't mask or facade, and I will give you a digital cookie. And that starwars quote is so very, very old.

Sacrificing thousands (if not millions) of unique sentient living beings (and almost a whole planet) in the process? Not rational at all... Grace's too wicked for being cool... Too obsesive for human... Too mad for a flawless A.I....

AFAIK Grace's only motivation behind her every move/plan/whatever was her mad obsession of becoming superior to the Protoculture and achieving what they couldn't. Vajra, humans and Zentradi were just obstacles for her, so she decided to kill/control them all. That's pretty crazy if you ask me...

well how about now ?

Can't unsee...

マクロス劇場版

・2時間に収めようとしている

・テレビシリーズを大胆に再構成したものをベースに新作カットが挿入されていくという感じ

・基本的にはテレビと同じ時系列

・25話以降の続きを書く場合、初めての観客には辛い。代わりに、続きに近いことを再構成した物語に入れ込んでいく可能性はある。

・劇場版ではテレビよりもアルトを立ててあげようと思う。

・アルトはちょっぴりかっこよく、ランカはよりかわいく、シェリルはかっこよさと同時に妖しさを付け足した。

・シェリルに関しては、テレビシリーズで嫌われキャラぎりぎりだったので、手を加えるのが難しい。 <-----------------------WRONG!!!!

　だが、「この手があったか」というのを思いついて今ではだいぶ勝算が見えてきた。

・メインキャラの中で一番変わったのはブレラ。新コスチュームが出てくる。登場のタイミングもいじった。

・アフレコは全パート新録。

・新作カットは最終的に7割を超えそう。

・シェリルのライブシーンは大半が新作になる。

・新曲はもちろんある。

・大気圏内での戦闘が増える。どこの「大気圏内」なのかはご想像におまかせします。

BABEL FISH TRASLATION:

[terebishirizu] boldly when the continuation after the same time serial 25 stories as the television is written feeling basic, new work cutting keeps being inserted those which it has been about to store to [makurosu] theater edition 2 hours, reconstructed in the base it is harsh in the new audience. Instead, there is a possibility of keeping inserting into the story which reconstructed the fact that it is close to the continuation. Theater in edition the television compared to you try raising alto. Alto the parenthesis is good little bit, [ranka] is lovelier, [shieriru] is fascinating simultaneously with smartness it attached. To be disliked in the television series, in regard to [shieriru], because it was [kiyara] last, it is difficult to rework.

Does this mean the movie is going to be a DYRL retelling with a conclusion to the story left unfinished in the TV series? (the destiny of Galaxy Island and stuff?)

She has the complexity to ignore obsolete moral principles and is too intelligent to fall for provincial Villain clichés.

Err... actually (and according to Kawamori himself) that "complexity" was just sheer utter madness. She was simply your typical crazy scientist stereotype... The Galaxy staff were even more evil since they used her for their means (this was also revealed by Kawamori).

All that beauty and coolness was merely a facade. A mask. She was just more machine than human (HAL 9000 type)... twisted an evil.

Not to mention Ichijo's flight suit, love that one!!

This one?

I second that motion! this thread needs more misa!

...and what about some Folmo?

In the vicinity of the city where I live there is this wacky/odd looking mountain. Sometimes I imagine it has a Zentradi/SA ship crashed on it...

Number One, you have the bridge.

Thx sir!!!

Fine, I hate the soda machine robot. Unreliable when you need it the most and annoying every other time.

SODA!!!

Just like real life soda vending machines...

Nope. I heard the VF-X 1 and 2 and M3 weren't very good, anyway...

Actually those games weren't that bad at all (For the average Macross/mecha fan at least). Even M3... Btw, u forgot to mention the Macross Scrambled Valkyrie SNES game, the Macross 2036 and Macross Eternal Love Song PC Engine games, the Macross/Macross II/Macross Plus Arcade games, the DYRL PS1/Saturn game, the Macross Plus Game Edition PS1 game and the Macross Valkyrie Overdrive for the Pc...

I'm still waiting for a new Macross Ace Frontier version for the PS2.

Dammit Kawamori!!!

We need more Macross games!!

How about a new VF-X3 game for the PS3/XBOX360/Pc?

Having sat through both the '87~'92 and '97~'02 dry spells, I have no sympathy whatsoever.

You don't play videogames it seems...

Fixed.

Officially, that view was invalidated after Plus and 7 came out, and DYRL was retocnned into a movie within a movie.

Unofficially, I think his words still stand...

I always thought the Kawamori interview (where he said the real Macross was somewhere between the TV series and the real world 1984 DYRL) was made during an event promoting Macross Plus in the US that happened in an anime convention in the mid 90s...

Also... I think somebody in this boards recently posted from Kawamori himself that the in-universe DYRL is not the same real world 1984 DYRL... (just like the in-universe Macross Zero movie from Frontier is not the same real world Macross Zero OVA).

The only thing I hate of Macross right now is the lack of more Macross right now...

After delay and work for 4 hours + here is, the G-suit for NUNS pilot.

Very nice 3D helmet. However, I must say that this is the S.M.S. suit, not the N.U.N.S. one...

See the mixed SDF:M and DYRL uniforms of the Zentraadi on Garia 4 for further confusion...

Actually it doesn't confuse me at all. Quite the contrary, it makes sense since as far as I know Kawamori himself said in an interview during the 90s that the real Macross lies somewhere between both DYRL and the TV series. I can't wait for the next Macross project to be a re-make of the original TV series with both original and DYRL designs... (A TV/OVA adaptation of ''Macross: The First'' perhaps?)...

Does anybody know which anime series are these characters from?

don't think there'll be anything to do with the 3 original characters, but Lord knows how much i would love to see the VF-1 in action in spanking modern animation!

You should watch Macross Zero then... (the closest thing right now)

Besides, if the remnants of the PC's were to come out in force, they'd wipe out any NUNS forces they'd feel the need to attack, so it would be a very short show....

Maybe the Megaroad 01 people discovered them and in order to avoid more destruction they simply stopped communicating with NUNS High Command and are currently living among them...

people around talk about the improvements of design in DYRL, but I don't really see any dofference other than fast/ attack packs or paint schemes. Am I missing something?

Also, are there any vf-1j's in DYRL? It seems like the vf-1s and vf-1a are the predominant valk.

(or is there a great thread that I haven't found somewhere that goes into detail about this?)

Jeezus man... Have you even watched DYRL?

I guess it was just a matter for establishing that the carrier could function in space and hook up to the Macross.

I re-watched the original 1982 Macross TV series and in the episode set after Captain Global orders the fold he tells Misa (who can't contact anyone in the folded sea carriers) that he fears the worse since both the Prometeus and the Daedalus weren't made for space operations.

Does this mean that the original crew of the carriers died due to exposure to space vacuum?

Somebody posted some of these at 4chan...

I can just picture that bad boy on the next cover of the Chronicle

Speaking of the Chronicle...

The official Macross F site has new information and images related to numbers 21 and 22 of the Macross Chronicle...

Number 22 has lots of information on the different gunpods used by the different valkyrie models up to the VF-25 and VF-27 from Macross Frontier.

Number 21 has a Macross II valkyrie on the cover... and an article on Silvie Gena.

This number also has lots of information regarding all the different full armor valkyries ever made, including Ozma's Full Armor VF-25...