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As I understand things, it was planned as a 3-season show, they were forced to cut it to 2 to get on the air, and the success of the first season got them permission to do a third season. Of course, the show had already been rewritten for a 2-seaosn run, so they had to pad it out. Global Report and Phantasm were the obvious fillers in the "main" show, and then the final 9 episodes let them do some stuff they'd previously scrapped(Roy and Claudia's "courtship" and add a few new ideas in as well.

I find it interesting just because of what it is. Too many stories end with "and they all lived happily ever after." Macross DOESN'T. We get to see what happens next. We see zentradi having difficulty adapting to human civilization. Some of them leave to become scavengers, others riot. While Kamjin's group was the best-organized and equipped, he wasn't the cause. We see humans trying to restrict zentradi access to a miclone chamber, which the zentradi view as a right. We see an Earth brought to the brink of destruction, and a humanity struggling to make their homeworld a home again. The bombardment damage didn't go away with the bad guys. We see Kaifun being an ass. Well, more than usual. He sees a world that doesn't fit his views, and that he doesn't understand. So he falls back on what he knows, and starts anti-government riots just for the sake of rioting. He also takes up a nasty drinking habit and becomes abusive to Minmay. We see Minmay collapse. She's nowhere near as popular as she was on the Macross, and without a massive throng of fans to distract her, she's realizing her life is empty and meaningless. And yes, we see Hikaru act f'ing retarded and nearly ruin his relationship with Misa. It's actually in character, IMO. Hikaru's just STUPID outside of an airplane. Deos the arc have it's flaws? Sure. But it's still one of the things that makes Macross unique. Those last 9 episodes are some of my favorites just for the view of the world that they offer.

Good point. I like Riker as well. Wasnt he suppose to get some command? 349752[/snapback] If I rcall, in the show he turned down a few promotions because commander of the Enterprise sounded like a better job than captain of some other ship. He's still a commander as of the last movie. Brief google search shows he got a field promotion to captain when Picard was assimilated, but it sorta got brushed under the rug in future episodes. Sulu got a command, though.

It's funny, but it wasn't until I reread this quote and went back and watched some episodes that I realized just how much I enjoyed that aspect of the show. That's another thing that grounded Sisko in reality as a person and a character, in addition to making some very good TV. 349598[/snapback] I think that might've been part of why I typically list DS9 as my favorite Trek. It was much mroe a character-driven show than an event-driven one. Though I did like DS9 less in the end. Particularly when the writers decided to make Sisko absolutely definitely the Prophet of Bajoran religion. Initially he just did his thing, and tried to dissuade the bajorans of the notion he was some sort of religious figure. But towards the end, they went all-out hardcore Bajoran-Bible-thumper with him. ... But Enterprise still has the worst ending in the entire franchise. I flipped it off after about 5 minutes, and I sat through the entire run of Voyager.

You have got to be kidding me. There's quite a few episodes where he would knock someone out with a judo chop to the back of the neck ala Austin Powers! He would use that goofy two handed hammerblow to a man's back and knock him out... How in the world do you knock a person out with a hammerblow to the back?! Hell, if he was that effective with that move, he shoulda been a PRIDE Full Contact champion! Knockout via hammerblow, 5 seconds into the first round, Kirk wins!!!! The funniest move I ever saw Kirk pull off was where Chekov or Sulu went nuts and tried to fight him in the medical bay. Chekov lunged with his knife while there was a bed between them. Hilariously enough, Chekov came up a whole foot short, so Kirk actually pulled on Chekov's wrist pulling him so Chekov was face down over the bed and followed it up with a judo chop to the back. A JUDO CHOP TO THE SHOULDER BLADES!!! RENDERING HIM UNCONSCIOUS! :lol: 349573[/snapback] Would you believe it's a primitive form of the vulcan neck grip?

Interesting point up there... Picard IS a really good example of who you'd want leading YOU. Unfortunately, those people don't make for very good television.

That's actually an excellent point there, especially when you look at Picard. I've always enjoyed his perfection and blind sense of duty and obligation, but his character never really made sense to me when they tried to portray his youth as being "brash, arrogant and cocky," and always at the center of trouble; how would you go from that to being a model of perfection? 349448[/snapback] Getting stabbed in the heart usually changes people. 349486[/snapback] Usually makes them a tad less animated than Picard was, though.

OK, having never played either game, I was able to research a few things. The first figure is Milia and Max's daughter (can't recall her name off the top of my head) who appears in the "Macross 2036" game. The other two figures are characters from the "Macross: Eternal Love Song" game that appears to take place during or close to the same year. Anyone who has more detailed info is invited to chime in... 349441[/snapback] Wel... both games are non-canon. 2036 is a fun sidescrolling shooter. It seems to depict a mission to capture a second factory satellite. Kamjin and LapLamiz seem to be back for more, their death in both the TV series and D?YRL notwithstanding. Possibly just the next iteration of clones. Eternal Love Song is a strategy RPG. I've never played it.

ZANAC!

Whoa, a trio! 348963[/snapback] Please don't go Keanu on us! But dude, trenchcoats are SO COOL!

Regardless of vacation status, it's a glint in MY eye...

Whoa, a trio! ... I really SHOULD download, I mean LEGALLY ACQUIRE, a copy of the SRPG those other 2 come from. To heck with teh language barier.

What is this "s'no" of which you speak?

Well, there's at least ONE plus...

I actually say that to myself as I take a crap every day. I actualy chant it. 348952[/snapback] I say it while peeing. Taking a crap just seems more like a missile strike.

A tragic tale of chemical abuse gone wrong.

*twitches* Talk about not knowing what to do with a franchise.

It's kinda hard to say that when every time you interact with the fans, tehy go "What happens next?!?!?! Huhhuhuhuh???

It's kinda funny that the main site is described as a "splash page."

So I wonder if they're going to CG all the man beasts or if they're going to go with guys in suits like the power rangers.... 348304[/snapback] Well, the "heroes" already wear the right outfits for sentai-style cinema...

So yeah... how about that blue hair...

" And they all lived happily ever after. Except Gendo. But he was a prick, and no one really cared anyways."

It's okay. He's awesome enough to punch through and become the Napolean conquerer type of french.

I ain't no physicist, but wouldn't you be able to escape the pull of the black hole if you were traveling faster than the speed of light (is that even possible for anything with mass?)? Maybe. The closer you get to the singularity, the faster you need to go. The event horizon is where escape velocity exceeds c. Anything just inside the horizon will be able to escape with a small degree of speed above c, but the further in you go the less practical it becomes. But gravitational forces will rip you apart before you get to the event horizon anyways. I don't think it's ever been specified. The implication seems to be an alternate universe, with slightly diffrent physics to us, partially due to the stated diffrence in time rates between fold space and real space. http://macross.anime.net/story/encyclopedi...fold/index.html The compendiuum says you jump into and out of a parallel space. They also say nearly instantaneously, but that's relative to the time the trip would take with conventional sublight propulsiion, so... The jump from Earth to Pluto seemed to have been near-instantaneous, though. Doesn't really provide a reliable measure, though. If they didn't, they'd've still been in the solar system when the Macross 7 launched. So yeah, they did. They could've had a malfunction of some sort. Or just not been able to prep the fold engines in time. Or gotten attacked by aliens. Again, it's not specified that they fell into a black hole. ALL we know is htat communication was lost near the center of the galaxy, and that Kawamori doesn't want to touch Hikaru, Misa, and Minmay again.

We do not speak about that movie!