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The VF-17 exists in M7 simply because the F-117 was recently publicly revealed at the time of M7's development.

Specifically, the F-117 was publicly revealed in late 1988, a few years before Macross 7 and Plus went into development. (I only mention Plus because the VF-17D and VF-17T have a cameo in the movie edition of it.)

The only reason the VF-17 exists is that the F-117 was in vogue at the time, that's why it has such a retro-look to it.

Very nice gunpod, Rodavan. Keep up the great work!

Just did a quick look-through of my copy. Very, very nice. I'm going to be drooling over it for awhile. Was not expecting a VF-11MAXL...

Glad to hear all our MW members out there are okay.

I remember when I was in Tokyo a couple years ago we had something like a 5.6 in the middle of the night. Save the next day mentioned it was the worst quake he had felt since he moved to Tokyo.

They had one plant automatically shutdown (SCRAM) when the quake hit, but I'm surprised the other one didn't.

I was going to rewatch Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 sometime but I don't feel like it anymore.

Glad I could help. I started with just the first line, then I kept going back and adding more and more.

I have a question then, about the CAG bird paint schemes.

If more than one squadron is operating off of a ship (like, say Angel, Apollo, and Skull, operating off of the SDF -- or the ARMDs) in a carrier group, does the squadron commander or flight leader for each squadron get a CAG bird, even if said pilot is not the CAG for the carrier group?

No, the squadron commander will get an x01-numbered bird. The CAGs fly x00 ones and can have more then one plane in an airwing.

So you could have, for instance:

Skull squadron 1xx

Angel squadron 2xx

Apollo squadron 3xx

Roy would have his classic VF-1S in Skull markings with Modex 100 (yes, I know, canon Macross has it reversed, to an inane 001). The Angel squadron commander would have his VF-1S numbered 201, Apollo 301. Roy could have a VF-1 in those squadron markings too, which would be numbered 200 and 300. He could even have a Cat's Eye marked for him, numbered something like 700 or 800.

Traditionally, CAG planes would have more extravagant paint schemes, especially including rainbow markings of some sort. (The rainbow symbolized each squadron). With the move to low-vis markings in the USN, they usually keep the CAG plane painted in full-color, high-visibility markings.

Old-style CAG plane with rainbow

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/colinritchie/f-4b%20project/f4b-3.jpg

Regular plane, same squadron

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/F-4B_VF-51_CVA-43.jpg

Modern CAG plane in high-vis markings.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/FA-18_Super_Hornet_VFA-103.jpg

Is it shown in battroid? And is it a A, J or S model?

Judging by the shot of it in the end of the first movie (specifically the shadow of the lower fuselage), it is a Super VF-1J. Also, it is armed with a gunpod.

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Looking good, D. I can't wait to see what you do with the two-seaters I sent you.

The whole time I was drawing it, I couldn't help but think egg plane.

Finally got the cockpit installed in these, so I thought I would post them up. From top to bottom, the VF-1D+ (DYRL? cockpit interior for now, since I don't have a TV interior done yet), VT-1, and the civilianized VT-1C. This is supposed to be a bare one, not like the whale hunters'. The head is a custom piece, VF-1A base with the laser removed and replaced with a second camera for the backseater. Still need to fiddle with the nose some, try and get rid of that chin it has.

Here is a study I put together, comparing various fighter side plans:

The blue and red boxes are all identical, and matching the Hasegawa 1/48.

You can clearly see how close it comes to the Yamato 1/60 V2 proportions. Likewise, you can see how much skinnier the legs are on the Hase 1/72 (and the angle problem), and also on the VF-1 Master File version (based on the M+:TIAS plans), which is also much flatter top to bottom. We know how poorly the latter transforms to battroid and gerwalk.

Very interesting comparison, I don't think I've seen all of those together at once before.

I am liking the newer Hasegawa model, but I loath the look of the Yamato 1/60 v2 (and I say that having two of them). The contours of the nose and canopy just look atrocious.

With the Master File one, you can trace back where it comes from, it's just an up-detailed version of the one from This is Animation: Macross Plus. You can compare it to this one. http://www.macross2.net/m3/sdfmacross/vf-1a-valkyrie/schematic-vf1a.gif It fits closer with the production art from the show, which shows a very skinny and flat-looking VF-1. http://www.macross2.net/m3/sdfmacross/vf-1a-valkyrie/vf-1a-fullyarmed-fightermultipleviews.gif Notice the intake trunks stay flat, instead of coming down like the Hasegawa ones.

On a VF-1 roll, I finished two upgraded VF-1s from the VF-1 Master File book. The designs were tweaked some, mostly in the canopy and intake, to make them flow better. I also did the new gunpod for them, the one the VF-3000 uses, but I want to rework it a bit before I post it.

You wouldn't happen to have a copy of said instructions, would you?

Best I can do is this. http://www.dalong.net/review/etc/mf11/p/mf11_m0036.JPG

Has anyone ever come across any line art for the VF-27?

There's a side view of the model in the instructions that could be used as a basis for one.

Finished another VF-1, in this case it's one from Master File, a block 13-17 VF-1J. In MF, the VF-1 was suffering from fatigue problems and had to be fitted with external stiffeners on the ventral fin and tail so this block eliminated most of those. It also features flush antennas on the spine and rearranged access to the avionics bay in the nose.

Sweet thanks.

Were these vectors?

Everything in both of those two was vector lines done in MS Publisher, then imported into GIMP, minus the badge base, which was taken from a USAF badge. I could have redrawn it in vector, but it was faster that way.

I am so loving the Angel Birds shield and the text graphics .

Are you going to post those as well?

Sure, I can post them. They're really old and rough, not to mention VF-4-specific, but here they are. (And yes, I realize I forgot the crossbar in the "A" in Angel )

Very kick ass. I'll have to favorite ya on dA.

Thanks.

I need to get back into the profiling game. All I've done over the past year or two is line art.

For those who have seen the movie, two questions on the YF-29: -

1) Is the gunpod a beamgun pod, or a traditional shell firing gatling type gunpod?

Graham

I should probably post some of the stuff I have done. Most, if not all of mine were done for my profile works (both Macross and aircraft).

I do most of the markings for my profiles, including the squadron insignia on the tail, the UN Spacy text, and the UNS Kite on this SVF-213 Black Lions VF-4.

http://talos56.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d25zmdi

My very first attempt at a crest was for this (old!) VF-4 Angelbirds profile, where I did both the crest and the logo for a VF-4-era Angelbirds plane.

http://talos56.deviantart.com/gallery/7626781?offset=24#/d1r2gbn

Also attached are an 84th Bomb Wing crest I did for a Martin B-51 profile a friend and I collaborated on, and a NUNS insignia that I did the line work for and Seto Kaiba here colored. Oh, and a couple airlines I'm working on for my 757 profiles, and a couple squadron tail markings. The palm tree on the Saudia one needs to be redone. It was at a lower-res and I could get away with a simple design there before.

Exactly! He's a test pilot, he'd be flying a VF-24 at LEAST! Pilots are like dogs, they'll chase the new shiny object everytime. No matter how attached to the old one they are. They simply can't help themselves...

Initially yes. The idea of calling any weapon nuclear or atomic was taboo in anime. Memories of Hiroshima and all that.

Although it appears that Kawamori may be starting (though the translators can confirm this) to change their meaning from nuclear missiles to anti-matter weaponry. Which if true, would explain how only a few missiles could completely decimate a Zentradi cruiser several kms in length.

Edit: Ah Goobs beat me to it...

Perhaps taboo, but certainly not unknown. Gundam (of which Kawamori was a massive fan of, enough to work on a fan magazine for it, Gunsight) has had nuclear weapons as a main cornerstone since the very beginning. The One Year War featured a massive nuclear war, eventually resulting in the Antarctica Treaty outlawing them for the rest of the war.

Damn straight, I would love to even just have something in novel or manga format. About the only detail we know, beyond birthdays and such, is that Milia almost died during Miracle's birth (which is why they named her that).

One of the twins shows up in another of Emilia's pictures during the 7 movie, but as a teen.

Sounds like you guys had a great time. Wish I could have been there for it. I totally know how Tenjin feels. While working on line art for the VF-1D and VT-1 series (even the VT-1C), I've developed an irrational affection for those trainers. He's always been a big inspiration for me and of course I say this with his VF-0D art from the first book as my computer background. Just one more week or so and the second book is mine...

What was the mad signer like in person? The only time I've seen him speak (on video, not live) was in the extras for the first movie bluray.

There's also Komilia's Macross II-universe appearance from 2036 and Eternal Love Song.