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Except the 240SX came with the KA24DE, while in Japan the 180SX and Silvia came with the CA18DET and later the SR20DET. There is a reason why so many people do the SR20 swap... 343924[/snapback] but the SR20 swap is also overrated because most people do it wrong. A lot of people grab the SR out of the S13/14 Silvias and not the S15 Silvias and the S15 is the one you want for many mechanical and design reasons. The big points are the S15 SR20DET has Variable Valve Timing also a bigger ceramic ball bearing turbo and it had a small change in compression. Not to mention it had 280bhp (but with Nissan's reputation that's probably a lie to meet the now lifted Gentleman's agreement) but you'll often see SR20 240SX's on ebay, and the reason they suck is because most people use the old SR20 which requires a hell of a lot more work and money to make it up to snuff. And if you do the smart thing with the 240SX and just buy the S15 front clip, you also have the privelage of having a 6 speed rather than 5 (but if you're drifting the 5 speed is more efficient) and also you can buy the after market fenders and hood for the S15 front end to replace the dated 240SX front end. This was a project car i had in mind a long time ago, but now due to the absence of time in my schedule i just hope someone intelligent will put a 240 together that actually works the way it should. In defense of the KA motor, there really is nothing wrong with it (aside from it being a truck motor) and you'll find lots of motorsports companies that make awesome turbo kits for this motor and tuner magazines that have guides to juicing this motor to crazy numbers.

He sounds like a rapper. 343901[/snapback]

that's friggin' awesome

I've never tried it, but i've heard Trend Micro has a good AV program. I know MSN switched over to it and stopped using McAfee to filter e-mails. I've used their free online system scan but i'm with JBO when it comes to avoiding virus'. I have no AV software on my computer and have never gotten a virus ever, spyware is a different story, but that is removed with different tools. (namely spybot and a MS' new free anti spyware program)

That's why my wife has taken a proactive approach to learning about cars. When i start talking about them and all she can do is look at me with a blank stare she started to get the idea that this would be a pattern. So since she started to educate herself, she's spotted a Bentley GT, a Ford GT, a DB9, and a Gallardo. I'm mighty proud

Well, i would say as a motor enthusiast a lot of cars are that way, even American cars. As i told my wife, the only difference that is obvious to most people between the V6 and GT mustangs are the fog lamps in the grill. I understand the point though, in that you're basically doubling your money to get a car that most people won't notice. I figure if you're going to buy the top of the line model of a sports car, you're only doing it to impress yourself or other motor enthusiasts who know what they're looking for. If someone wants to drop 200,000 to turn heads they would just buy a playboy car like a gallardo spyder or F430 Spyder, because eventhough they're fast, no one really cares what's under the hood, they just know you have a "Ferrari" or a "Lamborghini". Where as the motor enthusiast would laugh at anyone buying a convertible sports car; the average onlooker will think it's cool purely out of ignorance.

Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep isn't really in the red. It's actually the company that recently partnered with them that is going under... you guessed it, Mercedes. And it's not a wonder why, off the top of my head Mercedes makes 13 motors (if you include both NA and super/turbocharged versions of the same platform) and an endless amount of different bodies with any 3 digit combination of horsepower that you can imagine. The cost of production for mercedes cost them 2.2 billion dollars in overhead last year. i guess that isn't much considering that's how much GM paid Ford not to buy out Fiat (in fear of them picking up Ferrari and Maserati along the way). The CEO that was borrowed from Mercedes to bring Dodge/Chrysler out of the dumps has now been appointed back to Mercedes to redeem them of their losses. At some point, they need to hire more competent CEO's and get with the program... and i agree that dodge needs to make cars that don't have the aerodynamics of a brick, everything looks like a truck, or a wannabe truck.

yeh no kidding, i was lucky and got mine private party from someone in the newspaper. He sold it for KBB trade in value at the time, which if i can remember was around 2 grand. I was going to do the monster miata, but after reading some people doing it and basically the conclusion being that the car is only driveable in a straight line, i opted to just lighten the crap out of it the best i could and turbo the motor. By the end i had someones custom integrated headlight kit so i could save some weight on the pop ups, also had the hard top and some other weight saving materials (carbon fibre hood, aftermarket wheels, etc.). The car had a roll cage which always made me feel a little safer about getting into an accident, but then after a good day at the track, someone came up and gave me an offer i couldn't refuse, so a week and a fat check later it was gone. I couldn't complain, I'm 6'2" and it had a big interior but it was just slightly too small for me. It was just small enough to make me feel a bit clostraphobic, but big enough to where i wasn't banging my knee into the dash. I completely agree with you about the RUF, everyone has the idea that Porsche's are great out of the box, but RUF obviously proves this theory completely wrong. All of his cars are in short... perfect. He really sticks to the power to weight philosophy and really gets every extra ounce of juice he can out of the motors. If you buy one, he won't deliver it to you unless he takes you out onto the autobahn and tests it's 0-60 1/4 mile and top speed, so you have it for your records to make sure you're satisfied. Talk about service, his cars are worth every penny.

I noticed that exact same thing. But i think that also goes back to a long ended debate about pushrod vs overhead cam and all that entails. I'm not a fan of four door sports cars either but i was surprised to find that the Charger weighs more and only has 25 hp more than the GTO but stomps the hell out of it. The other article that intrigued me was RUF's newest Porsche creation the St12 (12th generation of 911 Turbo). He built a nearly 700hp/tq monster that costs 287,000 (nearly 150,000 less than a carrera GT) and gets a 0-60 at 3.2 seconds, a 1/4 mile of 11.0 seconds and a top speed of 217.8 miles an hour. That's faster than both an Enzo and a Carrera GT and costs a hell of a lot less. *also as a side note, the Ford GT in the shootout pulled 1.0g in the skipdad.

Lotus Elise Turbo video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=10...6&q=lotus+elise 343374[/snapback] Actually it was car and driver who had the super four challenge, and the car in the video (Forcefed Turbo Elise) was the one that was having the boost problems. They complained about how inconsistent the power output was and how it was rittled with drivability issues. http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?se...&page_number=14 for the exact article.

I got my December Issue of Road & Track in the mail along with my SCC and Super Strt. but the latter haven't had anything interesting in the last 4 issues so when the cover of R&T showed Shootouts as the heading, it's obvious which one i chose to read first. Shootouts involved the Big brawlers: ZO6 vs. SRT-10 Viper; The Rebirthed Muscle: SRT-8 Charger vs. GTO; Classic Rivalry: Ferrari F430 vs Ford GT and the Rally Brothers: STI vs EVO... to put the conclusions short, based on numbers alone: ZO6 stomps Viper; SRT-8 Chargers stomps GTO; GT stomps F430 (which i found pretty awesome considering the F430 was built purposely to Beat the GT); EVO IX ties STI - this test was a bit bias because they were using the five speed EVO and not the six speed MR which made the gear ratios in favor of a better 0-60 and 1/4 mile, but on the track it got whooped. In Car & Drivers EVO IX MR vs STI the MR lost in all categories. Based on drivability switch around the GTO and the Charger (eventhough the GTO looks like a cavalier on steroids), and switch around the F430 and the GT (mostly because you can't see well out of the GT). I love it when magazines do shootouts, because then you can go to the person who loves the car that lost and laugh in their face! I could really care less that you can't see out of the GT considering the fact that it's still a Ferrari killer that costs 100,000 less. Also i'm not a fan of either the GTO or the Charger, but the Charger has 4 doors and stomps the GTO, that in itself is enough reason to want the Charger... sure it's not true to the heritage, but at least you can haul around your friends while you beat a GTO in a drag race.

Usher has been in a movie? 343339[/snapback] Other than the ones listed, he's also starring in another movie coming out this year. I can't remember it's name because i didn't care, all i know is he's one of the main characters and that's enough for me to purposely forget it exists.

Technically Lotus won't let you do anything to the car before it's delivered. It's funny because my brother and I were discussing a Lotus project. I know the budget project i've seen is the MR-S project, which was a private motorsports company's mission to make an MR-S faster than a custom built turbo Elise through lightening the body and basically using an identical motor. The project was successful but who wants to be seen driving around a puss box MR-S. The Elise is a great car, if you go to road & tracks website they have the Super Four Challenge (4 cylinder motored cars) and two of the two Elises entered got in the top 10. After you're done with the rebuild, be sure to post before and after specs on your numbers. I'd really love to see what your Elise can run in the quarter since Lotus already has the highest reputation for being able to handle the track.

The Exige weighs more, and has the same engine, there is a supercharged version, but only 50 of those were made and you can pick one up for about 160k. The Elise is the same car, just different body work, and personally the Exige looks more like a track only car. Not like a road car. It just looks too 'racer' for me. 343333[/snapback] That's true, because i just remembered it doesn't have air conditioning either. But back to the original advice, if you're going to turbo it just make sure you have everything tuned correctly or the motor will react horribly.

This takes me back I hope it delivers, Sega hasn't done very much for timeless games in the last decade.

Any Musician gone actor (Usher, 50 Cent, R.Kelly, etc.) needs to stick with music, and never ever go near a movie set; with the exception of some of the hot female musicians because you're really not watching the movie for acting anyway.

Damn Right! Top Gear is a Bad ASS show! Jeremy Clarkson (though sometimes his statements are subjective) is a very good judge of cars, he doesn't descriminate by what the badge says but whether the car meets it's intended purpose. If anyone wants to read some of his articles on cars go to http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/section/0,,12529,00.html . Very good stuff there

Maybe that's because Honda hasn't done anything decent since the S2000 and even that car is getting dated. For A1, the Elise is a good choice. But if you plan on spending 60k on it, why not just get the exsige. It's an Elise with a hardtop and a little less weight, and it comes supercharged. Though i will admit the turbocharged will be much faster, but that motor (because it's built by Yamaha) is very fickle and is easly caught off boost. It takes a lot of tuning to get it to work right, so if you want to build it once and leave it alone i would suggest supercharging. But if you love the thrill of building motors and tinkering with the car, go for the turbo, and you can laugh at anyone who tried to build anything with a Honda badge on it. BTW the Elise is a badass looking car, definitely in the top ranking genre of my car list. Also another suggestion if you want a fast two seater, is get the Cayman. Okay yeah, so you'll feel a little bit like a money grubbin pussy in a porsche, but the Cayman is probably one of the few porsche's out that you can actually do stuff to. The motor they put it in is good, but my suggestion would be to dig around and find someones wrecked GT2 or GT3 and "borrow" its motor.

I remember d/ling one that was a squadron of VF-1's and they went into a very cool battle sequence. When i d/led it there was no sound, just cinema. Who's movie was that? I lost it over time, i'd like to have that one on my computer again

Did you notice that we're the only ones contributing to this thread? yeah, the ZO6 is an amazing car, but one of many that have come (and are coming) out this year. I can't wait until 2007 when the Skyline is released, and then some of Mazda's project cars aren't looking so bad either (Mazda 6Speed) though in comparison to the EVO and the up EVO X (the IX is coming but the X will be a complete redesign not just an upgrade) it makes the mazda look like a pinto when it comes to AWD systems and HP hookup. It will be really interesting to just see all of this on the track, because that's where all the hype really comes from.

Like i said before, I was always a rabid Hater of the Vette (post 60's) Until this years ZO6. And the only thing i hate about it is a debateable matter of opinion. The thing i love is whoever designed the brakes, they're a genius! 342294[/snapback] pretty sure they were done by brembo, at least for the Z, I had the upgraded brakes on my car and loved them, 13" rotors up front, 12's in back, cept rotors and ceramic pads were exspensive. Ive allways liked the vette cept the C5 and C3, good platform to build from 342297[/snapback] It's not the size of the brake that is genius, it's the technology incorporated. The Brake caliper is individual pieces and not one block. The advantage is, the fronter parts of the caliper that take most of the ware can be replaced individually saving the owner money. Also because they're individual blocks (one for each pot, so six in the front four in the rear) they cool much quicker than a single block, in conjunction with the huge brake vent, means more consistent braking on a track and in general. 342326[/snapback] yeah, I know, but the preasure required to stop the rotaing mass is a lot less per inch. Ive been running a ceramic blend for years now, The only thing that gets the most heat is the rotor, Ive experimanted with a heavy truck, and cast rotors will get ate by ceramics. As far as the calipers go, any late model vette has brembo style brakes and those are going on my super truck 342542[/snapback] I had been meaning to edit my last post but internet was out. What i meant to say was, the caliper is one piece (nothing changed) aluminum (not sure if it's Brembo, but high chance of it being so) and the brake pads are individual (much like the ones found on certain airplanes) so there are 20 total pads manning the brakes (6x2 front 4x2 rear). They say it helps braking but i don't know hot true it is, but i do know that it is more efficient for maintenance. The actual production car numbers for the ZO6 aren't as good as the proto test mule. 0-60 in 4.1 and 1/4 mile in 12.1? i know the quatermile was somewhere in the low 12's . Not bad numbers, but it's disappointing how different it was from original mule numbers. 342811[/snapback] all in the tires, they use shitty ones from the factory, I had twin cars with a guy (96 LT4 vette convertibles) from the posted numbers they were running 13.5 from the factory ojn goodyears (scary garbage), he ran a 12.89 with G force BF's on his 1st pass and got kicked off the track (no cage in a convert under 14 seconds) with cheaters, thise GS's are capable of 12.50's with slight tuning 342912[/snapback] I know that anyone with a brain and knowledge of all the factors that go into making a car faster will understand to put sticky's on it. But the average fat pocketed retard who's going to pick up the ZO6 and drive it like a fool on the road will more than likely be discouraged by the difference.... or maybe that's a good thing!?

Like i said before, I was always a rabid Hater of the Vette (post 60's) Until this years ZO6. And the only thing i hate about it is a debateable matter of opinion. The thing i love is whoever designed the brakes, they're a genius! 342294[/snapback] pretty sure they were done by brembo, at least for the Z, I had the upgraded brakes on my car and loved them, 13" rotors up front, 12's in back, cept rotors and ceramic pads were exspensive. Ive allways liked the vette cept the C5 and C3, good platform to build from 342297[/snapback] It's not the size of the brake that is genius, it's the technology incorporated. The Brake caliper is individual pieces and not one block. The advantage is, the fronter parts of the caliper that take most of the ware can be replaced individually saving the owner money. Also because they're individual blocks (one for each pot, so six in the front four in the rear) they cool much quicker than a single block, in conjunction with the huge brake vent, means more consistent braking on a track and in general. 342326[/snapback] yeah, I know, but the preasure required to stop the rotaing mass is a lot less per inch. Ive been running a ceramic blend for years now, The only thing that gets the most heat is the rotor, Ive experimanted with a heavy truck, and cast rotors will get ate by ceramics. As far as the calipers go, any late model vette has brembo style brakes and those are going on my super truck 342542[/snapback] I had been meaning to edit my last post but internet was out. What i meant to say was, the caliper is one piece (nothing changed) aluminum (not sure if it's Brembo, but high chance of it being so) and the brake pads are individual (much like the ones found on certain airplanes) so there are 20 total pads manning the brakes (6x2 front 4x2 rear). They say it helps braking but i don't know hot true it is, but i do know that it is more efficient for maintenance. The actual production car numbers for the ZO6 aren't as good as the proto test mule. 0-60 in 4.1 and 1/4 mile in 12.1? i know the quatermile was somewhere in the low 12's . Not bad numbers, but it's disappointing how different it was from original mule numbers.

Also, there are quite a number of cars (that aren't considered "Super Cars") that run 3 secs. the 911 S is one.

Like i said before, I was always a rabid Hater of the Vette (post 60's) Until this years ZO6. And the only thing i hate about it is a debateable matter of opinion. The thing i love is whoever designed the brakes, they're a genius! 342294[/snapback] pretty sure they were done by brembo, at least for the Z, I had the upgraded brakes on my car and loved them, 13" rotors up front, 12's in back, cept rotors and ceramic pads were exspensive. Ive allways liked the vette cept the C5 and C3, good platform to build from 342297[/snapback] It's not the size of the brake that is genius, it's the technology incorporated. The Brake caliper is individual pieces and not one block. The advantage is, the fronter parts of the caliper that take most of the ware can be replaced individually saving the owner money. Also because they're individual blocks (one for each pot, so six in the front four in the rear) they cool much quicker than a single block, in conjunction with the huge brake vent, means more consistent braking on a track and in general.

Like i said before, I was always a rabid Hater of the Vette (post 60's) Until this years ZO6. And the only thing i hate about it is a debateable matter of opinion. The thing i love is whoever designed the brakes, they're a genius! But as my avatar boasts, I can't wait until Saleen finishes his Twin Turbo AND Twin Intercooled S7 (it was just twin turbo before), i'm excited to see those numbers.