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3 hours ago, technoblue said:

I would argue that it’s a little early to qualify this first bunch of season 3 episodes as “and then” moments following Parker and Stone’s definition.

And then Din is captured by a weird cyborg/droid (so that Bo had a reason to come rescue him), and then Din falls into the living waters (so that Bo has a reason to see the mythasaur) and then Bo’s home is attacked by Imperials (so that Bo had a reason to go to the Covert).  And then kid Mando is captured by creature (So Bo has a reason to show how capable she is).  Again, I’m not saying you can’t like it, and doubtless at least the imperial attack could be called a loose thread like you said, but it just feels like low effort writing to justify the scenes they want to shoot .  🤷‍♂️

47 minutes ago, sh9000 said:

Eh the difference is that my posts are positive and are promoting the products.

2 hours ago, Briandmd said:

Funny, that I do the same thing with all the promo puff pieces you post.    Great minds think alike.    
 

 

I don’t think either is a more valid than the other, and the simple truth is, if Disney and others were putting out high quality to go along with their quantity, rage tubers wouldn’t have such a large audience.  I think this is my favorite video on the topic.

5 minutes ago, Bolt said:

Apparently. And he did a great job doing it! I'm happy for the guy to finally shine through.

Definitely, No actor deserves crap for giving the performance that the director asks for, and he and Jake Loyd took a lot of crap.

2 hours ago, mechaninac said:

Other than The Bad Batch (I've read that Andor was good too, but it didn't attract enough viewers to justify its existence... bad timing following crap like BoBF and Kenobi),

Bad Batch main story line episodes are awesome, Andor along with the last four episodes of the Clone Wars is the best Star Wars Disney has put out, and would be a great show even if it wasn't in the Star Wars Universe.  You seriously need to watch it, just be patient when you do, it's a very slow burn.

33 minutes ago, technoblue said:

Is Star Wars always 10/10 perfect? No, but it isn’t shameful either. It’s still fun, IMO. I enjoyed this week’s episode, even if it didn’t move the plot needle too much. I liked the flashbacks, the build up of Bo Katan, the in-flight combat with the mama bird, even the goofy Grogu bits at the Mandalorian camp.

 

I want my Star Wars to make sense and be internally consistent.  Andor has shown how good a well written Star Wars show can be.  This season of the Mandalorian has had to many "and then that happened"  moments.  It's just not great writing, and I'm afraid they haven't learned the lessons of The Book of Boba Fett or Kenobi.  I'm not going to tell you what art you can and can't like, but the numbers bear out that I'm not alone, and people are losing interest.

Explanation of "and then"

2 hours ago, Bolt said:

The story is finally gaining momentum. I've been waiting to see what Echo has been up to. Quite the contrast from what the others are doing. I'm very curious to eventually learn who Omega is a clone of. The creepy Imp is well done. 

I’m fairly certain this was addressed in the first episodes, she is a modified (Female instead of Male) clone of Jango Fett.  Boba Fett is Alpha, she is Omega.  That’s why they hunted for her in the first season, they needed access to her pure genetic strain.  Now they just want her to secure the Kaminoan Geneticist's cooperation.

There have been some really cool moments this season, but it just feels like their buried in so much bad writing.  "yeah dad, I'm fine, I survived a day and a half in the bird things gullet,"  Why would the bird only kill the kid if it saw the other Mandalorians, was it letting it's chicks get to know him before dinner time?  That whole premise just doesn't make sense.   It sure feels like they're writing the story around a couple of "cool" scenes, and it just isn't working, same problem The Last Jedi had. 

2 hours ago, Bolt said:

I just caught the latest episode, missed it while tripping over myself to watch The Mandalorian.  
Now the plot thickens..

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We finally get to see clone commandos! Does anyone recognize that squad leader Does anyone recognize that squad leader near the end point? And you know when a clone commando is running scared (the opening) , you need to sit up and pay attention. I thought they were gonna bring out the zombies from the old novel (but then I remembered it's Disney) . So the revelation that the Empire wanted to control cloning (that's why they destroyed Kamino, the only game in town worth mentioning) , is a direct correlation to Snokey and Palpy in the newer trilogies. And finally the empire is onto the existence of Omega..

Overall, I enjoyed this episode. As usual, great eye candy.

Clone Comando’s have actually been in several Clone Wars and Bad Batch Episodes, I think this is Scorch’s third episode.  

11 hours ago, betocc said:

Price for Angel Bird was 22,900 yen, I wouldn't say it is expensive... But they are asking for 7,750 yen for EMS shipping.

That’s what I mean, they don’t control the item cost, but their packing and shipping charges can pop your eyes right out of your skull.  

22 minutes ago, Bahamutzyro said:

is big in japan reliable? i have one on order from them.

also from anime export.

Big in Japan is very reliable, just expensive. 

Thanks for the input everybody, my collection isn't nearly to the scale of most of the ones shared, but my space is pretty limited.  Behold, the wall of boxes. 

Thanks for answering, Do you mean these guys?

https://www.target.com/p/sterilite-66qt-clearview-latch-box-clear-with-purple-latches/-/A-13794509#lnk=sametab

or these guys?

https://www.target.com/p/66qt-latching-clear-storage-box-with-green-lid-brightroom-8482/-/A-84625910#lnk=sametab

Random question, does anyone know a brand or style of plastic/rubber containers that are a good size for efficiently storing Yamato/Arcadia 1/60 boxes?

I know this is overused, but

On 6/28/2022 at 6:33 AM, TangledThorns said:

I just started playing Fallen Jedi for PC and ten minutes in it's already way better than the Obi-Wan Kenobi series. Disney+ is gonna lose subscribers over this IMHO.

It’s gameplay is great, but the writing is still just ok.  A bunch of it still doesn’t make sense.  

On 6/28/2022 at 6:14 AM, Big s said:

2 hours ago, Big s said:

I don’t know about the mcu really being that much of an influence here. Star Wars has always been goofy. If anything Star Wars probably influenced the mcu into being more lighthearted. Just the goofiness in this show seems over the top and really out of place when they use it

That’s the problem, it doesn’t fit.  C-3PO can be obnoxious oblivious and prudish, because he’s a droid, and he’s programmed that way, but nobody takes him seriously, except maybe the Ewoks, and that’s a whole other conversation.

7 minutes ago, Roy Focker said:

It must have first happened during the production of the Last Jedi. There are some interesting ideas in that movie. It also starts with humor more in the spirit of a Marvel movie. The first version of Justice League that came out was heavily influenced by the tone of the MCU. These others project suffer when they try to make them feel like a Marvel movie and trade making a good story for a chance to promote the next spinoff series.  Sometimes they can make a winner like the 1st season of the Mandalorian. Even then they'll screw it up by later focusing too much on a few elements that the public enjoyed. 

In my opinion it started in The Force Awakens, Finn's goofy nature just felt off.  Watch his interactions with Poe after Finn rescues him, and his interactions with BB8 and Rey after they leave Jaku.  He doesn't feel like a traumatized child soldier, he just feels like an idiot.  And it's very obvious that John Boyega can act, so this must have been the performance they were after. 

9 hours ago, Mog said:

They need someone in the writer’s room to say, “Nah, that’s stupid.  Let’s rework that idea.” or “Maybe we should NOT have three ‘We need to rescue Leia incidents’ back-to-back-to-back.”

This is the major problem I have had with the last two series.  Apparently no one saw the dailies and said, "um we can't publish this as Star Wars, it looks ridiculous".  Somewhere along the way Disney decided that Star Wars needed the Marvel treatment, and since then we've had forced humor, silly writing, and questionable casting/direction.  I won't ride the acting to hard as it's evident some of these people have great works in their past.  Add in child actors, and it's like the writers watched episode 1 and decided that instead of taking it's structure and issues as a cautionary tale, they thought this was the formula for Star Wars. 

Edit: meant to say, Star Wars is best when it's treated as High Fantasy, like the Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings.  It can have humor, (and personally I still think Jackson went overboard with the Dwarf jokes), but it has to be treated respectfully and realistically.  Having silly characters that no actual person would believe or take seriously, and then having the characters treat them in a serious manner just comes off stupid.  Like the fake Jedi in episode 2 of Kenobi.  

3 hours ago, jvmacross said:

So finally got around to watching episode 5, again, just more boneheaded writing that pays no respect to the characters as we know them from the films and other media...

I guess it was Bail's turn to have his character destroyed (some more) in this episode.  We are to believe that the biggest kept secret in the galaxy was openly disclosed on some holo-message " space phone"...including openly used names, no attempt at hiding anything....and that even as Bail fears that Obi Wan has been captured or failed in retrieving his daughter....he still compromises their safety and the security of said "best (worst) kept secret in the galaxy" by apparently sending this message, unencrypted, or at minimum not using "real" names...and finally, in a way that the message would not be playable by anyone other than Obi Wan.

To make matters even worse, Obi Wan decides to give this unencrypted "space phone" to a known con-man/opportunist in the hopes that he won't "sell-out"?  Well, at least we didn't get the chance to find out he was DJ's dad....

 

 

Or Obi-Wan immediately deleting a potentially compromising message after he receives it.  He was a General, COMSEC isn't rocket science.  Unfortunately outside of the Mandalorian, The Disney Star Wars series have all the hallmarks of being written by a Jar Jar Abrams committee.  "hey wouldn't it be cool....."

16 minutes ago, Lolicon said:

Obi-Wan was using the farce. 

I think you mean the Schwartz

3 hours ago, jvmacross said:

Yeah, yeah....I know...it's Star Wars...leave all logic behind and come veg with us for a while....

But don't fans deserve better than to be expected to accept mediocrity?...(looks at latest videos of the lightsaber wielding crowds at Star Wars Celebration)....

Nevermind...

Yes, yes they do, and honestly if LucasFilm/Disney really cared about their investment or their intellectually property, they'd be investing in better writing/writers, but it's pretty apparent that quality is not one of their priorities. 

6 hours ago, azrael said:

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Vader wants him alive so he can burn him nice and slowly. The whole "I want you to feel everything I felt when you left me to die"-deal.

Obi-wan wasn't ready for Vader this time. It wasn't even a real fight. Once Vader could see Obi-wan was on defense and running, he switched from kill to play. Obi-wan be ready next time and probably have a plan (probably fake-his-death again), which will then lead to ANH. 

Fascinating name drop in this episode.

I've actually wondered if that is the mystery man in the tank in the Jedi Survivor trailer.  No dreads though. 

2 hours ago, jvmacross said:

Agreed, but the only thing that matters is that he already knows that Anakin is Darth Vader....this is why the scene in OWK that eludes to Obi Wan being in shock of the news that Anakin is still alive seems far fetched....basically in the 10 years since he last interacted with Anakin, he has heard nothing about Darth Vader causing havoc across the galaxy?....Bail, the only guy that knows his whereabouts didn't bother to tell Obi Wan that Anakin/Vader survived his encounter on Mustafar?  There has been no encounters with Vader documented by Rebel intelligence? The entire Senate doesn't know of the Emperor's right hand man?

Just wondering if things will get retconned or if this will just be ignored?

1 hour ago, Mog said:

Obi and Yoda went into hiding.

Seriously doubt Bail’s just randomly dropping off news to Obi.  After ROTS, they probably all know to keep the kids safe and keep a low profile (well except for the Galactic Senator).

Makes sense that Bail would only contact Obi for only the most dire of circumstances and doubt Bail’s in the know about Vader’s true identity.

Even if grumblings about a former Jedi hunting and slaughtering his own kind makes it all the way to backwoods Tattooine, I don’t think Obi’s in the right state of mind to fully process it.

He clearly hasn’t heard squat from Qui-Gon in 10 years, still has massive hurt from “killing” Anakin and seeing Padme die, and has a mission that forces him to lay low and not draw attention to himself.

36 minutes ago, azrael said:

Bail likely knew the importance of the "radio-silence"-rule. Any comm traffic to Obi-wan or Yoda could be traced. Whether or not Bail knew Vader was alive was inconsequential to keeping the twins safe. Heck, the less Bail saw of Vader, the better.

The running theory is Vader only came out when needed. His appearance was more mythical with the Inquisitors doing most of the hunting while Vader only came out against the tougher Jedi or when they failed. The Imperial Army only saw him when they needed "motivation" or a matters of importance to Vader or the Emperor. I would imagine Vader spent more time in the Bacta tank than we thought, especially during the first years after ROTS.

The surviving Jedi went to ground after Order 66. Cal Kestis (Junk guild scavanger), Obi-wan (meat processing plant), Kanan Jarrus (cargo hauling/smuggling), they all likely took meaningless jobs and kept a low-profile. Forged chain-codes, no Holonet presence.

Again, Knowing that Vader exists, and knowing that he is Anakin Skywalker are two separate things that up to this point in the shows and mythology had been treated as either no widely known, or possibly a carefully guarded secret.  Obviously Obi-wan knew who and what he was by the time of ANH, both in his statements to Luke, and to Vader himself, but when he learned this was unknown.  Kanan recognized Vader as a Sith Lord and nothing more, As noted above, Ashoka had no idea Anakin had survived, until she was in his presence and the revelation was quite a shock, even after this she refused to revel the truth to Kanen or Ezra.  Cere (Jedi Fallen Order) refered to him as a "Shadow", and obviously Cal had no idea who he was.   Also If Bail had been aware of his identity he also did not share it with Ashoka.  In the eyes of the Galaxy Anakin Skywalker, after siding with the Emperor (not clear if this is common knowledge), was either killed with the rest of the Jedi, or died on Mustafar.  Then Darth Vader, the Emperors shadowy apprentice/enforcer appeared.  I haven't read the Tarkin novels, so I'm not sure if Tarkin actually knew or not (implied by "you are all that is left of that old religion"), but it has been made very clear that Vader=Akakin was not common knowledge.   The idea that the inquisitors, Vader's disposable enforcers, would be trusted with such knowledge is surprising, and in my personal opinion, weak writing.  Obi-Wan should have figured it out another way, perhaps overhearing him or observing him. 

Edit: ok, I watched the clip, and I had forgotten that the emperor does in fact refer to Anakin as Lord Vader.  So Obi-wan does know that Vader=Anakin, however as pointed out by others above, he appears to believe he killed Anakin on Mustafar, and on the backwater of Tatooine, he's unlikely to have heard anything more than vauge rumors of a black clad enforcer for the emperor.  Darth Vader's existence has been established as not common knowledge. 

12 minutes ago, jvmacross said:

Obi Wan knows Anakin is Darth Vader, he and Yoda were reviewing the attack footage during a scene in ROTS...

 

Knowing he stormed the temple, and that he is Darth Vader, again, are two separate things.  The aspect of this that I have a problem with is the idea that all the inquisitors know who he is.  It seems that his original identity was a tightly held secret, and yet it’s shared with these selfish and apparently untrustworthy individuals.