NightmarePlus

Ridiculously awesome.

19 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said:

VF-171EX Nightmare Plus EX Throne

What's this one? Is it the variant that appeared in Macross E?

There's something sexy about the Pre-Frontier VFs having the NUNS emblem on them. Can't wait to get this one when it drops!

From an angle i thought that looked like a VF-25. Anyways this is looking great!

13 hours ago, Valkyrie Driver said:

So, what's the timeline on the VF-X-1 project that we see in SDFM Ep33? Was it before or after the Mayan Island incident? 

For the non-transformable proof of concept fighter? IIRC it was set before the 2008 incident.

2 hours ago, SMS007 said:

And the whole series ends with no comment on the still-comatose inhabitants of Al Shahal. Sure Walküre will probably handle that but of course the Windermereans will get away scot-free with that too. And the whole time the series stupidly pretends no one could have actually died in that incident because they were affected in the middle of operating hazardous equipment at the time. 

I'd like to believe that they woke up from that before the series ended and were understandably pissed.

Has there been any instances where technology similar to Halo's active camo was used in Macross?

I want 10 of them 

Are there plans to introduce units from the other shows?

Is there any new updates regarding the new series? Usually by now we'd get a teaser image and or trailer if Macross Delta's advertisement is anything to go by.

I think i'm in love 

Is there any estimates on how many secondary guns the Elysion had in total?

2 hours ago, Focslain said:

Not sure if this is the right place to ask but..

Has there been any model kits for the cruiser and frigates from the Macross series?

Been flying around them in Delta scramble and liking the design.

Unfortunately no . They only exist to get blown up on screen to make the bad guys look intimidating. They're such looking ships too.

20 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said:

The VF-171's internal micro-missile launchers were decreased from 4 to 2 compared to the VF-17.

Wait, the 171s had internal missile launchers? 

4 hours ago, network19 said:

Hopefully the next series will focus on a pilot in the military instead of one in a PMC.

I hope so too since it would be a change of pace from the last two macross series we got, but i'm not holding my breath for this.

Aw, they're not available anymore. Are they on Soundcloud?

12 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said:

 The aviation in-jokes are thick on the ground when it comes to Delta Flight and Walkure, with Mirage and Freyja being the only odd ones out.

Wouldn't Mirage's name be a reference to the Mirage series of aircraft developed by Dassault?

57 minutes ago, Chronocidal said:

On the subject of canards.. does anyone have any memory or know of an instance showing whether the ones on the VF-31 series actually move, or are they just stationary surfaces?  Reason I ask is that their mounting point pretty severely limits how much they can actually move around. 

Even if you assume the panel lines on the rear half mark the control surface itself, that still means they're only good for a nose-down moment, unless the canards have separate leading and trailing edge surfaces.

Just curious, it's part of why I think I like the look of the 31 better without any canards at all.  It certainly would make it easier to pick up off the shelf.

There was one scene in episode 13 where a mook 31A maneuvered behind a Var'd 171 and shot it down. During that 3-5 second scene it showed the canards moving. If i had a Gif i would post it.

That's a question with a lot of potential answers... since older fighters are often retired from normal duties and placed into the training fleet, and the special forces are sometimes keeping the fighters in service much longer.

The VF-1 Valkyrie, for instance, went out of mass production in 2015 but was still being used as late as 2050 by the special forces because it was as close to invisible-in-plain-sight as you're likely to get with a giant robot thanks to the prevalence of civilian VF-1s. That's a good 35 years after mass production ended.

The VF-4's mass production ended in 2022 and it was still in service in 2047 with the special forces, though it'd otherwise been retired to training service. It was presumably surplussed out to civilian buyers in the late 2040's or early 2050's, same as the VF-1X series. That's around 29-30 years.

The Frontier fleet was selling off the last of its VF-11s in 2058 to civilian buyers, though we don't know when mass production ended on that model. It didn't enter production until the end of the 2020s, so it was only in service for about 28 years total, though as an emigrant fleet main fighter there probably wasn't any one end of production galaxy-wide... every fleet likely stopped at a different time.

The VF-171 is already staring down the prospect of replacement at only about 20 years in service, though like the VF-11 it'll probably be retired at different points in time in each fleet using it. Master File suggests that it was still being produced around 2065, with the final variant being the VF-171L.

What is the VF-171L? Was that the one that appeared in Delta?

I want the people who made to give an apology to us.

I know it's wicked late, but i have a few complaints about this episode. First off, how the hell did Frejya not get hit by, not one, but the flaming wreckage of TWO Lil'Drakkens? Why not play Ikenai Borderline and Absolute 5 for the finale? Those two songs would have been perfect. Assuming all those other NUNS ships were from Voldor, i would have liked to see some Voldoran Strike 171s kicking the crap out of the Windies in space like how they did in Ep 22, although at least we got Elysion doing some work though.

I'm interested in Alto's VF.

Reminds me of the story writing technique for World War Z. Keep it up!

We should get a VF-X Ravens OVA or anything exploring the regular New UN Spacey Forces really. I fear that the whole "PMC using the newest toys" might become a trend in future Macross series. Give us one with the Regs point of view already!

Not sure this is the right thread, but guess Wind SInging might qualify as technology.

Imagine there were to be no Mikumo for Roid to catch, and King Heinz would need to stay in power and sing. But he is a boy with a soprano voice. What if he were to reach puberty and his voice were to break? Would Windermere be left without its Wind Singer?

Don't tell me they castrate their Wind-singing kings...

IIRC, wouldn't that cause health complications? I've read that a lot of Sorprano's died because of castration at an early age, so i'd image Roid would want to avoid that happening to Heinz.

You are surelly right, but that is even a worse outcome: even a single micro-missile salvo makes damage comparable to a Macross Attack full Destroid salvo. Not only beam weapons are overkill: micro-missiles too.

Yeah, but that's only because he shot it into the ship and possibly the hanger section, where there would be fighters with loaded ordinance and unloaded ordinance.