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    Macross 25th Anniversary and upcoming new TV series thread

    in Hall Of The Super Topics

    Posted

    Pulled these pics off 2ch:

    These were apparently taken from the event.

    Some words are cut off, but I'm pretty certain this should say "銀河歌姫来艦" (The Galaxy Songtress/Diva Comes Aboard). Probably debatable whether the green-haired girl is a fan (the blonde girl in the back being the singer) or the singer.

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    The girl with green hair is wearing a China dress beneath that apron...

    "A love story intertwining love, friendship, and a planet's destiny"

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    Valk image. Some posters on 2ch thinks this looks more like some sort of VF-1 variant tailored to the singer. (In which case, I think it would make more sense if this were some VF-5000 variant or later model)

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    This new Valkyrie has features which appear to be similar to the VF-19 and VF-5000. Looks like the paint scheme is white, blue and red. Angel Birds? Not likely though...

    The fleet

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    The ships of the fleet reminds me of the Akusho Area docking bay island of the Macross 7: akusho_area_docking_bay_island.gif

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    Asuka II Carrier Battle Group

    in Movies and TV Series

    Posted

    No, I am not Nanashi ;)

    As for the gravity generators debate, I still think those sea going ship don´t need them, specially the Asuka, wich unlike the Prometheus was not submersible... still it does not clear the fact that those things look like grav. generators, so my guess is that maybe the OT generators are not task specific, I mean they could be used to generate raw power wich could be then converted into gravity, cynetic energy or the "ammunition" for the beam cannons?????

    Also, lets analyze the process of lifting the Asuka into Space: First, all of the support aircraft would be useless as well as the VF-0, remember it has conventional engines because the nuclear ones could not be finished in time, so a space-going CVN is just a big and easy target, specially from below. On top of that, the Oberth space destroyer was already functioning by 2005, 3 years before Macross Zero.

    Lets keep in mind that the Asuka represents the last of conventional warfare carriers it is stealth because it cannot submerge, this also makes it an easy targer for orbital bombardment, but a very dificult opponet for the more conventional planet based AUN forces. The class the Asuka belongs ended with CVN-100 I presume, the Prometheus being CVNS-101, right?

    Corrections:

    CVN-99 Asuka II

    CVS-101 Prometheus

    Asuka II Carrier Battle Group

    in Movies and TV Series

    Posted

    Ok, since no one cared to read it, I decided to repost it. Please lets conclude the generator thing and discuss the topic´s subject.

    Here is a bit more info on the main subject of this topic, the vessels and aircraft conforming the Asuka´s CVBG.

    On to the Arleigh Burke missile destroyers: The entire group of escorts the Asuka had were modified Flight I and Flight II Burkes, there is not a single Flight IIA to be seen in the group, depriving the battle group of the extended anti submarine capabilities of the newer version of the destroyer, maybe this would explain why the UN forces never found the AUN´s sub-carrier.

    28 Flight I and II Burkes were built and at least 5 are seen escorting the Asuka, but I assume there were at least 8 in the group, forming a protective ring around it with 3 on each side, one forward and another in the back.

    But why an escort of just destroyers, not frigates or cruisers? the answer I found to this is stealth, it is suppossed to be an stealth fleet, and the Burkes are way more stealthy than the O H Perry frigates and the Ticonderoga cruisers, there is no point in having an stealth carrier with a non stealth escort.

    The modifications made to the Burkes: the bow sonar is considerably larger, it has 2 small stabilization fins on each side of it, the normal propellers have been replaced by pod propellers* and the foremost chimmey has been reduced a bit to accomodate a block 1 phalanx, wich has a shorter barrel.

    * - called 'azipods' - - Awesome detail indeed!

    IPB Image

    This image is a work in progress, so excuse the low res texture and the holes in the sonar.

    The number on the hull of that ship appears to be 79, not 77.

    DDG 77

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    USS O´Kane, escorting the Asuka, of the 4 vessels shown in the picture, one is the ill fated Algeciras, probably sold or transfered to the Marine Nationale, or just renamed in french after being part of a global navy.

    Is the mentioned Algeciras destroyed? it got knocked out for sure, the bridge was destroyed leaving it headless, but the place the missile impacted could not cause it´s sinking....

    The Nameless Advisor

    www.macrossmecha.info

    Asuka II Carrier Battle Group

    in Movies and TV Series

    Posted

    The proper term is 'Gravity Control System'.

    http://www.macrossmecha.info/fs/macross/macross-gcs.html

    The Nameless Advisor

    www.macrossmecha.info

    M0 free of animation errors???? :lol:

    I should point out Shin's VF-0A disappearing and reappearing FAST packs in episode 5. He jettisons all weapons leaving only the fighter, however, in the next scene, his dorsal fuel tanks and leg-mounted FAST packs appear in the scene and then disappear in the following scene.

    The more I look at those things, the more they look like the engine reactors.

    Episode 7, SDF Macross, Right when Macross attempts to lift off from Mars base

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    Episode 4, M+, As Macross lifts off from the lake.

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    Overtechnology in the reactors is possible since Overtechnology was used to give the F-14 additional life in the UN Navy.

    Now, if you want me to really confuse you, Perfect Memory list those same objects as the gravity generators. Now, if those are the AG generators...why are they back in episode 7?

    Asuka II Carrier Battle Group

    in Movies and TV Series

    Posted

    Very impressive CG models op4_delta! Super nice job.

    Just a correction though: The Cheyennes are not CIWS destroids, but air interception/anti-air destroids.

    Be careful where you get your information from. The Macross Compendium is your best bet--not those RPG sites.

    The Nameless Advisor

    www.macrossmecha.info

    When I first saw Macross Zero I fell in love with the design of the Asuka II stealth carrier, I rushed to the internet to seek some info about it but I could not found too much info and only a few images. My objective was to create a 3D model of the Asuka to be used in real time strategy games or flight simulators, and in my quest I discovered a lot about the carrier on my own, enough to dispute the affirmation of it being a small scale carrier only 250 meters long, almost like the french CVN Charles de Gaulle.

    The Asuka could be taken as a Macross version of the US Navy´s CVNX project, the stealth design is one of it´s main features, it also has a capacity equal or very close to a Nimitz aircraft carrier and almost the same size, 320 meters aprox. Why do I dare to make such assumption?. since I could not find a lineart, I used 2 elements as rference, the catapults and the elevators. The elevators of the Asuka can take 2 fighters at a time, just like the Nimitz, and their layout is almost the same, only 2 elevators have been moved from the place they would occupy on the Nimitz flightdeck. The catapults also cover the same length and are in the same possitions as in a Nimitz carrier.

    Using the 2 elements mentioned above as reference I began building my Asuka with a Nimitz lineart and a lot of screen captures from the OVA and this are my findings.

    IPB Image

    The Asuka´s flightdeck has less space to park aircraft than a Nimitz carrier, one reason is the large island and it´s silos to house the Cheyenne CIWS destroids the other is that parked aircraft increase the radar echoes, specially if they are not stealthy, like the S-3 vikings and the SeaHawk helicopters.

    On to the Asuka´s armament. Internet sources describe it with 5 Mk-15B phalanx CIWS, one of them is mounted on the island´s starboard side; 1 beam cannon, I discovered it has 2 beam cannons one on each side of the bow, notably the port beam cannon is destroyed by Nora in episode 3; and last, a VLS cell for anti-aircraft missiles, sea sparrow or SM-2, all those weapons along with the 6 destroids should give the carrier an incredible AAW capability.

    The most interesting feature in the Asuka is the amphibious bay, it looks like the one on the LHD´s, it has 2 doors, one opening upwards and the other opening downwards, acting as a ramp, is in this bay where the AIFOS is loaded covered by the giant quarentine bubble.

    That´s all for now, in my next post I will talk about the Carrier Battle Group itself and it´s modified Arleigh Burke destroyers.

    'Gunboat' to 'Gun Destroyer'

    in Movies and TV Series

    Posted

    Actually, the Macross is not a monitor or a carrier. It is a super dimension fortress (SDF). A late/ex- long-range firing-type gunboat [gun destroyer] which possess a fortress [cruiser-fortress] mode and an attack [storm-attacker] mode which has the ability to dock with space carriers [etc.]

    -The Nameless Advisor

    www.macrossmecha.info/

    Hmm.....

    The Macross is a Monitor, yet it carries fighters...

    (CVA- Attack carrier + BM Monitor)  CVABM? - Carrier Monitor?

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    Macross DYRL?: Space War One

    in Hall Of The Super Topics

    Posted

    Officially, there has yet to be a VF-4 model designated 'A'. Kawamori has not said that the VF-4 Battroid mode was specifically or only for the VF-4G. He simply completed the design. There is nothing wrong with the head. The commander type head is an option, but I would not go making up anything. There also should be ample official designs to not use fanmade designs or concept designs with fanmade names for the mod.

    The Nameless Advisor

    www.macrossmecha.info

    I've been working on some meshes, tweaking and such. Got the VF-4 and realised we need some original head designs for an A model VF-4. Production sketches are only for a VF-X-4 and a VF-4G model (Digital Mission VF-X era model).

    Boxer, if you're around, could you get on this. Nanashi, could you provide some advice?

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    The VF-4 would have been an awesome fighter if it weren't for that stupid head.

    I'll see if I can squeeze in some new heads. How many variants? (A is a go, how many more?)

    Also noticed the Tuliqui-Sovis is still on the shiplist (Fanmade Zjent Frigate). Should I dig this one up and do orthos on it also?

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    What is lying on your workbench?

    in Hall Of The Super Topics

    Posted

    Sweet. Soon all the unmanned craft will be had ^.^

    The Nameless Advisor

    www.macrossmecha.info

    I took a break from casting VF-11s yesterday to start on a quick (I hope) scratchbuild.  It's a 1/72 Target Drone from Macross Plus.  I have a small 1/144 resin kit of it, but I though it'd be cool to build my own at a scale that's more to my liking.  And at the same time, make it more accurate to the design art.

    The design sheets list it as being 10~12m in length, but I went with the larger end of that aproximation, cause I want it to be a decent sized kit.  It'll be 6.5" long when completed.

    I think it's come along pretty well, considering that I started on the CAD drawings about 24 hours ago :)

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    TV Ghost - 1/72 model kit

    in Model kits

    Posted

    Can I order a second kit please?

    Its sooooooo beautiful!

    The Nameless Advisor

    www.macrossmecha.info

    Guess I'll start the wanted list here then:

    Total: 54

    Grayson 3

    Cobywan 2

    Penguin 2

    Viceland 2

    Myersjessee 1

    Gabe Q 1

    boinger 1

    THOR 2

    007-vf1 1

    Darklord4 1

    LTSO 1

    nanashino 1

    AZRhino 2

    jipe 1

    Jasonc 1

    jorawar_b 2

    akim 1

    Ranger565 2

    Lo-pan 1

    Pat S 1

    Mechmaster 1

    Neptunesurvey 3

    Major Tom 1

    Goshawk 1

    Goldenboy Forever 1

    cool8or 1

    Wheels 1

    VF17 2

    Cdr Fokker 1

    Bertt 1

    Gundamhead 1

    Neova 3

    Mr Jones 1

    Godfather 1

    TER-OR 2

    xstoys 1

    Kylwell 1

    Mechleader 1

    cokefiend 1

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    MiG-29 ID

    in Movies and TV Series

    Posted

    The CG model of the MiG-29 used for Macross Zero is different from the other variants. One notable difference is the t-shaped antenna/

    probe which replaces three blade ODD Rod IFF.

    (See below detail of MiG-29 Fulcrum A (Late) design)

    mig29-oddrods.jpg

    I concur that it is not like the Fulcrum C, due to it not possessing the after-cockpit hump. There is also a major alteration of the tail stabilizers. Whether this is due to an inaccurate CG model or deliberately being made different, I can not say. The rudder doesn't look like that of any Mig-29 variant. Though, it does resemble the Prototype's tail most....

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