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Super Macross Mecha Fun Time Discussion Thread!
Seto Kaiba replied to Valkyrie Driver's topic in Movies and TV Series
Sort of. Unlike the Anti-Unification Alliance's SV-51, the VF-0 was not developed with live combat in mind. It was, in development terms, a "mule" vehicle built out of available "off-the-shelf" and/or custom fabricated prototype parts intended to evaluate technologies during the course of development on an actual vehicle. Master File alleges that there were several VF-0 phases that started out as modified F-14s and gradually developed into the completed craft we saw in Macross Zero. The completed VF-0s we saw in Macross Zero were pressed into combat service after the "formal" end of the Unification Wars in 2007 to deal with Anti-Unification Alliance remnants, but only a few dozen were ever built* and were mostly used for model conversion training. Master File alleges that several VF-0s at Grand Cannon III also fought off an attack by the remains of the Anti-Unification Alliance, and Macross the First also depicts several units from the Graf Zeppelin II being used to defend South Ataria Island from a suicide attack by the Alliance in late 2008. Master File offers up a table of VF-0s produced for the UN Forces that accounts for slightly more aircraft than the official sources mention (though the official numbers are said to be approximations), indicating that most VF-0s were assigned to three places: either the carrier CVN-99 Asuka II seen in Macross Zero, her sister ship CVN-100 Graf Zeppelin II seen in the manga Macross the First as part of South Ataria's defenses at the end of 2008, and UN Forces HQ in Alaska. Small numbers of VF-0s were also sent to Grand Cannon III in Africa and the SLV-111 Daedalus, and a few ended up stationed aboard the Macross and one ended up on HMS Ark Royal. * Official sources suggest 24 VF-0A, 6 VF-0B, 6 VF-0C, 18 VF-0D, and 4 VF-0S for a total of 58 VF-0s built. -
Super Macross Mecha Fun Time Discussion Thread!
Seto Kaiba replied to Valkyrie Driver's topic in Movies and TV Series
Overspecialization is inherently limiting, yeah. Perhaps the clearest demonstration of that fact of life in Macross can be found in the design of the Sv-262 Draken III. The Kingdom of the Wind's Aerial Knights went all-in on a high-performance atmospheric dogfighter to fit their organization's professional ethos and then ran into a number of problems because their new main fighters lacked the endurance for protracted space engagements despite space being their enemy's favored operating environment and could only engage at visual ranges against an enemy who had vastly superior numbers, training, and far more experience. As soon as Heinz and his fold songs are out of the picture, we see the Aerial Knights in their shiny new Drakens getting bodied by local NUNS troops using twenty year old previous-gen fighters. -
Super Macross Mecha Fun Time Discussion Thread!
Seto Kaiba replied to Valkyrie Driver's topic in Movies and TV Series
An understandable reason to drool. By definition, all VF-0s are proof-of-concept models. They were built to evaluate the Variable Fighter concept and various technologies being developed for the VF-1. The "Space Proving Wing" markings probably mean that specific aircraft was one of the few outfitted for space operations... probably equipped with either the QF-3000E Ghost's FF-1999 initial type thermonuclear reaction engine or an early trial production version of the VF-1's FF-2001 thermonuclear reaction engine. Variable Fighter Master File: VF-0 Phoenix doesn't feature that Space Proving Wing, but offers a broadly analogous unit in the 55th Development Experimental Wing Orbital Weapon Test Squadron AKA the SVX-12 "Space Fighters". That unit used a handful of VF-0's retrofitted with the Ghost's FF-1999 engine to carry out testing of the VF-0 and Variable Fighters overall in orbital space. The UN Spacy was established in March 2003. The crash of the ship that would become the SDF-1 occurred in July 1999. You'll see it basically everywhere in Macross Zero, which is set in July 2008. -
Science and Technology MEGA THREAD
Seto Kaiba replied to Max Jenius's topic in Anime or Science Fiction
Yes, he knows what he's talking about. The dreaded "H-bomb" that dominated Cold War-era fears of nuclear world war and a nuclear holocaust is a nuclear bomb that uses thermonuclear fusion as its primary destructive force. Mind you, you weren't entirely incorrect about it being a more efficient use of fission. Thermonuclear fusion bombs are a two-stage weapon that uses a small nuclear fission bomb as a means to create the super-high temperatures and pressures needed to kick off an uncontrolled fusion reaction in the hydrogen stored in the primary warhead. It was the only way to achieve a significant release of fusion energy at the time. Some of the test apparatus that were developed for those experiments were further developed into the technologies used in this breakthrough experiment in fusion energy generation. Of course, because those thermonuclear fusion bombs use a nuclear fission bomb as a trigger, they still release dangerous radioactive fallout despite the primary product of fusion being intense heat. The "holy grail" of nuclear weapons research is a "pure" thermonuclear fusion weapon that does not require a fission bomb to trigger that explosive release of fusion energy and thus would be a "clean" nuclear weapon that produced minimal or no long-term radiation. These, of course, currently exist only in fiction.* The first full-scale test was the "Ivy Mike" experiment in 1952. * In Macross, these pure thermonuclear fusion weapons were able to be realized due to Overtechnology and are called thermonuclear reaction weapons. Rather than a fission bomb, they use the intense artificial gravity to create an uncontrolled thermonuclear reaction in hydrogen. -
Super Macross Mecha Fun Time Discussion Thread!
Seto Kaiba replied to Valkyrie Driver's topic in Movies and TV Series
As a relevant aside to the above, one of the reasons that the VF-31AX Kairos Plus spec in Master File is that its baseline performance is significantly lower than the Siegfried's and the impact that has on the boosted performance. Essentially, the Kairos Plus may be 275kg lighter but it's working with 12.26% less output than the unboosted Siegfried. In order to match the Siegfried's boosted performance, never mind exceed it, the output of the Fold Wave System would have to almost double from +15% to +26.85%. Even then, because Xaos's Fold Wave System cannot self-activate, the end result is a fighter that's measurably worse than the Siegfried the vast majority of the time. -
Super Macross Mecha Fun Time Discussion Thread!
Seto Kaiba replied to Valkyrie Driver's topic in Movies and TV Series
One thing to remember is that all engines are not created equal... and the engines are a significant portion of the aircraft's mass. True, the VF-27 has four engines but each of those engines is individually a fair bit less powerful than one of the detuned YF-30 engines used in the VF-31 Siegfried. It has about 47% more thrust to work with than the unboosted VF-31 Siegfried, but it also weighs about 42% more because of those extra engines. The end result is the VF-27 has a thrust-to-weight ratio of about 46.49335 while the VF-31 Siegfried is only slightly lower at 44.854 without its Fold Wave System active. That's not even a 4% difference. With its Fold Wave System on and operating, its output increases 15%. That might not sound like a lot, but at the baseline level we're talking about here that increases the total combined thrust of the engines by 562kN. That's more than the maximum output of a VF-19A's FF-2200 thermonuclear reaction burst turbine, and pushes the output of the individual FF-3001/FC2 engines to slightly over the tuning used on the YF-30 (2,156kN vs 2,110kN). That increase puts the VF-31 Siegfried's T/W ratio at 51.582, 10.9% higher than the VF-27's. It's got a better ISC than the VF-27 does too, rated for 29.5G rather than 27.5G, though it seems a safe bet there are also some limiters in place to protect the pilot in normal operation and the ISC is likely boosted by the Fold Wave System as well. Its gunpod may lack the punch of the VF-27's massive one that requires 3+ engines to operate, but it has a lot more operational versatility than the VF-27 which is almost exclusively a dogfighter. -
Super Macross Mecha Fun Time Discussion Thread!
Seto Kaiba replied to Valkyrie Driver's topic in Movies and TV Series
Nope. The first one to get them was the YF-24. One of the three original YF-24 prototypes was lost due to a linear actuator malfunction during testing that caused a crash. -
Super Macross Mecha Fun Time Discussion Thread!
Seto Kaiba replied to Valkyrie Driver's topic in Movies and TV Series
Yes, it was. One of the signature technological advancements of the 5th Generation Valkyries was the adoption of a new form of non-contact linear actuator that replaced many of the small and comparatively fragile electromechanical and electromagnetic rotary actuators in the transformation system. Reducing the number of moving parts and having them not actually be in physical contact with each other during the transformation made the transformation process faster and more reliable and made the Battroid itself more durable. -
Super Macross Mecha Fun Time Discussion Thread!
Seto Kaiba replied to Valkyrie Driver's topic in Movies and TV Series
Probably Masahiro Chiba, Macross's go-to man for specs and technical writeups. No, that's Masahiro Chiba. He's been with the franchise from a very early point, to the extent that he's one of the few staffers to have an actual named character modeled on him in a Macross series. (Macross 7's Dr. Gadget M. Chiba.) No, but this is currently the ONLY source that has presented any kind of specs for the VF-31AX Kairos Plus. Almost certainly not. The main problem with these specs is that it doesn't at all align with what's said about the VF-31AX anywhere else. When they're introduced in Macross Delta: Absolute Live!!!!!!, the VF-31AX Kairos Plus is presented as an improved version of Xaos's custom VF-31 Siegfried that Delta Flight had been flying up to that point. Official publications haven't been clear or consistent about whether they were stock VF-31As that were retrofitted with new and salvaged parts from the Siegfrieds or Siegfrieds repaired with new and spare parts from the stock VF-31A, but the one thing they all agree on is that this new model is supposed to outperform the VF-31 Siegfried and the Sv-262 Draken III and rival the unmanned Sv-303 in mobility. In one interview, Kawamori claimed that its performance was not hugely different from that of the YF-29. Where we run into problems is that these stats - the ONLY stats we've seen for the VF-31AX thus far - don't support any of that. Well, except for the notion that the Kairos Plus is a stock VF-31A Kairos retrofitted with salvaged Siegfried parts. Based on these stats, its performance without the Fold Wave System active is no different from the stock VF-31A (and therefore a decent bit below the VF-31 Siegfried or Sv-262, never mind the Sv-303 that Worf'd both with comical ease). This becomes slightly more problematic in that the Master File for the VF-31 Siegfried established that Xaos's version of the Fold Wave System is a good deal less powerful than the YF-29's and cannot be activated at will the way the YF-29 Fold Wave System can because it's dependent on a powerful external bio-fold wave source (e.g. Freyja or Mikumo). By any objective standard, it looks like a downgrade instead of the upgrade the film presents it as. It's not a marketing buzzword, it's a classification system that was proposed by a historian looking at the evolution of jet fighter technology up to 1990 and subsequently adopted and finessed by various government agencies. You are correct that it's not based on raw performance... it's based on significant advances in technology and the corresponding shifts in design and strategic priorities. The same is true for the New UN Forces classifications of Variable Fighters into Generations. The ones that got the most attention are, of course, the ones that were introduced after the idea of dividing fighters up into generations became popularized in the 90's... the 4th Generation Advanced Variable Fighters (VF-19, VF-22, VF-171) in Macross Plus and Macross 7 and the 5th Generation in Macross Frontier and beyond. As in the real world, this tends to correspond to major development programs that defined the requirements for that generation's designs. ... we have notes on that. Extensive notes. The short version is that the 1st Generation are, of course, the initial designs for Variable Fighters like the VF-1 and VF-X-2, as well as proof-of-concept aircraft like the VF-0 and the Sv-51 and Sv-52. The 2nd Generation starts with the Earth UN Government's plans for the VF-1's successor with the competing VF-X-3 and VF-X-4 that were in early testing during the First Space War and a number of designs developed after the war ended with a focus on small, often specialized, Variable Fighters designed for good cost-performance in early emigrant fleets. The 3rd Generation is marked by Project Nova, the design competition between the VF-11 and VF-14 to select the VF-4 and VF-5000's successor, as well as efforts to diversify the Variable concept into the realms of dedicated Attackers and Bombers. Oh, it's more than that. Project Super Nova set down the requirements for a 4th Generation Variable Fighter as a high-performance stealth-focused Valkyrie able to infiltrate behind enemy lines to strike command centers/ships to fatally disorient enemy forces without the need for total destruction. This was especially important because the New UN Forces had begun to have to consider the use of Valkyries against Human threats on top of rogue Zentradi forces. The new technologies that defined that generation were the thermonuclear reaction burst turbine engines that enabled VFs to have efficient SSTO capability and more surplus generator output for defense, the ARIEL airframe control AI, the 3rd Generation active stealth technology, independent fold capability via native support for fold boosters, and pin-point barrier systems for defense. More than that, 5th Generation VFs are defined by Project Evolution and the New UN Forces demand for a next-generation VF that could address the controllability issues of their failed 4th Generation designs (the VF-19 and VF-22) while also achieving performance able to rival or exceed the Vajra's in anticipation of further conflicts with them. The creation of Inertia Store Converter technology was a keystone technology of that generation, but its other hallmarks include the EX-Gear control suite, the Stage II thermonuclear reaction turbine engine, ARIEL II airframe control AI, linear actuator transformation system, integrated sensors, and new armor materials. For its part, the VF-171 Nightmare Plus is a 4th Generation Variable Fighter. It was developed as a replacement for the failed VF-19 and VF-22 as a less extreme design prioritizing ease of control and handling over red raw performance, but nevertheless included all of the same technological advancements used in those initial 4th Generation models. The Frontier fleet's VF-171EX and VF-171-IIIF could be considered 4.5th Generation designs. The 4th Generation VF-171 was improved with certain technologies developed for the 5th Generation VF-25 like the integrated radar system, EX-Gear cockpit, and its new ablative anti-beam coating formulation. The didn't adopt the ISC or other technologies like the ARIEL II avionics, Stage II engines, or linear actuators for transformation. That's where we run into problems/conflicts... since the official materials classified several fighters with those systems including the Siegfrieds as 5th Generation still. The YF-29 and YF-30 were also developed in parallel with the VF-25 and other 5th Generation VFs, and the VF-31 Siegfreid and VF-31AX Kairos Plus are modified 5th Generation VFs. No, we know that's not the case for several reasons. First, the production VF-31 Kairos explicitly does not have a Fold Wave System. The Fold Wave System is what produces the synergistic effect between fold waves and various key systems on the Valkyrie that provide that performance improvement and, on the YF-29, allow the craft to draw energy directly from higher dimensional space. Second, fold carbon can't be used in a Fold Wave System. The reason that a technology as amazingly useful as the Fold Wave System is so rare is because manufacturing one takes incredibly rare materials that can't be synthesized (yet). Specifically, it needs very large pieces of extremely high-purity fold quartz. Something that generally isn't found outside of the bodies of Vajra Queens or rarely in certain Protoculture ruins. Fold quartz could be described as a very high purity form of fold carbon that's beyond Humanity's current ability to manufacture, which creates much more powerful fold waves that transcend dimensional faults and time differentials. Fold carbon is an essential material in any overtechnology that manipulates gravity or higher dimensional spacetime, and is used in thermonuclear reactors, gravity control systems, fold navigation and communications systems, holographic projectors, and the like. Even the highest purity fold carbon is not up to the task of driving a Fold Wave System, so it wouldn't provide any performance improvement unless it was directly applied in place of a lower-purity fold carbon in a direct application (e.g. a reactor's Gravity and Inertia Control system). Third and lastly, the VF-31A Kairos is explicitly officially described as 5th Generation like the VF-24, VF-25, VF-27, YF-29, and YF-30. Even the Siegfried custom version is described as being "5.5th Generation" rather than 6th, officially. -
Super Macross Mecha Fun Time Discussion Thread!
Seto Kaiba replied to Valkyrie Driver's topic in Movies and TV Series
The Tempest was the joint British-Italian 6th Gen fighter program that merged with Japan's 6th Gen fighter program to form the Global Air Combat Programme earlier this year. Because the merger of those programs happened just a few months ago, they haven't announced an actual name for the new fighter they're codeveloping. Sort of. The 2nd Generation airframe control AI "ARIEL" is not a mere support system like the deep learning AI planned for the BAE Tempest... like the 1st Generation AI "ANGIRAS", it's the main flight control system and supervisory controller for all onboard systems. The Ghosts, for their part, are more or less able to fight and fly autonomously. BAE's plan is more like the Squire bits used by the Valkyrie II in Macross II... with the "mothership" exercising direct control over the unmanned units accompanying it. -
Science and Technology MEGA THREAD
Seto Kaiba replied to Max Jenius's topic in Anime or Science Fiction
Yup... owing, I suspect, to popular fiction entirely too many people erroneously believe that a nuclear reactor is a nuclear bomb in potentia just waiting for an excuse to go off like in the movie Aliens. The reality is so much more mundane. A fission reactor's a kettle heating on a pile of hot rocks and the thing you're most in danger of it if breaks down is a steam explosion that exposes those hot rocks to the outside world. A fusion reactor is like a diesel engine, requiring the injection of fuel into the reaction chamber and a compressive force to trigger the reaction... and if you shut off the fuel flow or decouple power to the system providing the fuel compression, the whole thing stops almost immediately. -
Super Macross Mecha Fun Time Discussion Thread!
Seto Kaiba replied to Valkyrie Driver's topic in Movies and TV Series
It is based on a real-world aircraft... but not that one. The VF-31's development history is one long whole plot reference to Japan's effort to domestically develop and produce its own 5th Generation stealth fighter in the Mitsubishi ATD-X (later known as the X-2 Shinshin). Like Japan and the F-22, the Brisingr Alliance wasn't able to import the full spec VF-24 and opted to develop their own next-generation fighter as an economic self-stimulus and with an eye towards future export sales to allied governments. The prototype, then designated ATD-X, was being prepared for the first round of test flights at the time Macross Delta premiered in April 2016. The idea to present the VF-31AX as a 6th Generation fighter is probably inspired by what happened afterwards. When the ATD-X's test flights were done, Japan's government decided that they needed outside help after all, resulting in plans to pass on producing a 5th Generation fighter in favor of jumping into development of a 6th Generation one... launching the Mitsubishi F-X program. -
Super Macross Mecha Fun Time Discussion Thread!
Seto Kaiba replied to Valkyrie Driver's topic in Movies and TV Series
More or less. Since it's Xaos, they're probably made from the same trial production (Block 0 or Block 1) VF-31As that the Siegfrieds were... just modified differently. Granted, I 100% agree that trying to put the VF-31AX in the same category as ridiculous super-prototypes like the YF-29 and YF-30 is pretty silly... but Master File does have its own internal (unofficial) logic about how it's classifying these. Their view seems to be that the Fold Wave System is a 6th Generation feature, and that the YF-29 was either always or retroactively classified as a 6th Generation design based on it. That should make the fighters retrofitted with it 5.5th Generation, but if you're not counting the .5 gens then it would technically get the bump to 6th. The YF-29 was an honest-to-goodness prototype that turned out to be Awesome But Impractical. The YF-30 was a technology demonstrator that was officially designated a prototype so its lead developer (SMS) could defer having to make legally-required disclosures regarding its new technologies for as long as possible. A prototype for a next-gen aircraft is still a next-gen aircraft by definition because generations are typically defined in terms of specific requirements and capabilities. -
Science and Technology MEGA THREAD
Seto Kaiba replied to Max Jenius's topic in Anime or Science Fiction
Look again, they actually don't. There's a section header that says "It has military implications", but all that's actually said in that section is that some of the technologies (ICF) used in this breakthrough came out of nuclear weapons research programs (not all of which were military in nature), that modern nuclear weapons use fusion, and that this proves America's a leader in the development of "weapons-relevant technology" because nuclear power research branched off of nuclear weapons research. Believe you me, altruism is NOT required for the idea of switching from nuclear fission to nuclear fusion to appeal. The amount of time, money, and logistical grief that goes into the procurement, safe handling, and disposal of nuclear fuel materials and maintenance of reactor systems is substantial even for civilian reactors. A fission reactor leaking uranium into the environment means a multi-billion dollar cleanup effort. A fuel spill in a fusion reactor means you air the room out while the cryogenic fuel sublimates and then patch the leak because it's just flammable gas and not glowing rocks of painful death. -
Science and Technology MEGA THREAD
Seto Kaiba replied to Max Jenius's topic in Anime or Science Fiction
Really, the most likely reason the US military would get excited about this discovery is the potential to reduce the number of things that could go wrong and the probability of running and screaming. Our aircraft carriers and submarines are powered by nuclear fission reactors. The highly-refined radioisotope fuel they use is extraordinarily dangerous and requires a lot of specialized and very expensive equipment to manufacture, to handle, to transport, to store, to install, and to dispose of safely when it's spent. Not to mention the massive potential for long-term environmental damage should the reactor be damaged. You'd better believe the military is downright giddy at the prospect of being able to switch to a far clear and safer technology that can offer similar or superior performance without a material safety datasheet the size of War and Peace and literal tons of highly specialized and costly safety gear. -
Super Macross Mecha Fun Time Discussion Thread!
Seto Kaiba replied to Valkyrie Driver's topic in Movies and TV Series
Ah, I see it now. It's in the last sentence on that two-page spread with the Delta Flight VF-31s flying in formation. "Due to the uncertain factor of Walkure's support, the abilities of the 6th Generation VF were demonstrated for the first time, and many problems remained in the operation of the VF-31AX." There's no mention in there that I can find of the YF-29 or YF-30 being 6th Generation. The only mention of the YF-29 is a brief mention of the Dissimilar Air Combat Training exercise from Absolute Live!!!!!! where the newly completed VF-31AX units fielded by Delta Flight got REKT by a YF-29 and four Super Ghosts. That said, there is some other interesting information hiding in there. The mobility performance of the Sv-303 and VF-31AX is said to be about 60% that of the Super Ghosts, and on par with each other. It's also interesting to note that both the VF-31AX and Sv-303 are noted to be dependent on external bio-fold wave sources to activate their fold quartz-based performance enhancements, meaning the VF-31AX's Fold Wave System is an improved version of the Siegfried's not the complete system used in the YF-29. The reason that Delta Flight fared so much better in their second fight was because of the Armored Pack and performance boosts from Walkure's singing, which allowed the VF-31AX to overpower the Sv-303. Even then, it's said that Operation Jormungandr only succeeded because of the failure of the Siren Delta System. After a good night's sleep, I remembered something relevant from a partial translation I did of Variable Fighter Master File: VF-31 Siegfried. That book, in its discussion of the VF-31 Siegfried's Fold Wave System, DID assert that the YF-29 is a 6th Generation VF. So the guys on that other site may have been extrapolating from that to get to the idea that the YF-29, YF-30, and VF-31AX are all 6th Generation. Now, it's worth remembering that these books aren't official setting material and that the official setting classifies these craft slightly differently. Like the VF-25, the VF-31 is said to be a 5th Generation VF. The YF-29 and YF-30 are often put into that category as well because they were developed in the same time period and from the same base design (YF-24 Evolution). An extra feature from the Macross Delta TV anime blu-rays describes the VF-31 Siegfried custom as a 5.5th Generation VF, though it never elaborates upon what a 6th Generation VF is like. I would assume, based on the classification of the Siegfried and the Kairos, that the Kairos Plus would actually be considered a 5th Generation or 5.5th Generation VF. -
This is far from the first time someone in Hollywood has floated the idea of doing a Warhammer 40,000 adaptation. The idea usually never gets very far, typically because the WH40K franchise is considered too niche to have serious mainstream appeal and too edgy and too cliche to be taken seriously. Now that someone seems to actually be taking the idea of an actual WH40K adaptation seriously, I have a feeling the biggest roadblock they're going to run into is the setting itself... and how much of it is derivative of other properties which the creators of the game were parodying at the time. The risk of a faithful WH40K series losing its audience to darkness-induced audience apathy is very real. On the few prior occasions that there's been serious talk of developing a WH40K movie or series, it's always focused on adapting the franchise's most celebrated novels. Typically the talk about adaptations revolves around Dan Abnett's Eisenhorn trilogy (Xenos, Malleus, and Hereticus). The other series that usually comes up in those discussions in Gaunt's Ghosts, also by Dan Abnett, though far less frequently than Eisenhorn. Sandy Mitchell's Ciaphas Cain series has been bandied about a little bit too. I think what we're seeing here may actually be the fruition of an announcement made back in 2019. Producer Frank Spotnitz (The X-Files, The Man in the High Castle) announced his intention to have his studio, Big Light Productions, work on a live-action adaptation of the Eisenhorn trilogy. Big Light Productions has a history of working with, and distributing its films through, Amazon including The Man in the High Castle and Leonardo. Now there are actual contract negotiations in progress, Spotnitz's studio has only one other project that current is in the works (a second season of Leonardo), and Henry Cavill's suddenly voicing interest in doing a WH40K series. It'd be a good starting point, since Eisenhorn set up a lot of the modern WH40K setting and is less involved in the massive pitched battles side of things and it has two sequel trilogies that could be adapted as well should the series take off. The Ravenor trilogy (Ravenor, Ravenor Returned, Ravenor Rogue) starring Eisenhorn's star pupil and the new (and rather more overtly lovecraftian) Bequin trilogy that's styled as the final third of a trilogy of trilogies that also features a final showdown between Eisenhorn and Ravenor.
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Seto Kaiba replied to Valkyrie Driver's topic in Movies and TV Series
If it's the same one used on the VF-31 Siegfried, then that'd be a "No". One of the few interesting and surprisingly well thought-out original details in Variable Fighter Master File: VF-31 Siegfried was the explanation of how the economized version of the Fold Wave System used in the Siegfried custom differs from the full spec version of the technology used in the YF-29. The Siegfried's Fold Wave System uses less fold quartz at lower purity, so it's much less expensive to produce and they can make and maintain several of them. The downside is that the performance improvement is much less, and the FWS needs an external source of powerful fold waves (e.g. a powerful fold singer) to activate where the YF-29's FWS has no such activation restriction. It neatly explains why the Siegfried is only about on par with the VF-27 performance-wise and why Delta Flight can't simply spam the FWS to beat the Aerial Knights any time they want. The VF-31AX Kairos Plus from Absolute Live!!!!!! is noted to have been improved through the adoption of more fold quartz - not necessarily higher purity fold quartz, just more of the stuff - so the performance of the FWS may have improved somewhat. Whether it has overcome the restrictions on activation of the Fold Wave System, we'll probably find out in the finished manuscript. -
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Seto Kaiba replied to Valkyrie Driver's topic in Movies and TV Series
For the record, Amazon.co.jp lists a street date of December 29th 2022 for this 128 page joke at our expense. -
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Seto Kaiba replied to Valkyrie Driver's topic in Movies and TV Series
Well, now we know they're officially taking the piss. Amazon.co.jp's listing for Variable Fighter Master File: VF-31AX Kairos Plus has the stat block for the VF-31AX on one of the preview images. To call it "underwhelming" is excessively generous. If this weren't on an official listing on Amazon, I'd think I was being trolled. The specs are barely different from the stock Surya Aerospace VF-31A Kairos. The wingspan's a bit narrower (13.53m vs. 13.70m), it's a bit flatter but that might be a typo (3.58m vs. 3.85m), the weight is exactly the same at 8,250kg, the ISC rating is the same as the stock VF-31A's at 28.0G, and its engines have the same rated output as the VF-31A's at 1,645kN/ea. The ONLY noteworthy detail is that engine model changed. Instead of using the stock FF-3001A engines the VF-31 inherited from the VF-25, the detuned version of the YF-30's FF-3001/FC2 engine the Siegfried custom used, or even a fully tuned FF-3001/FC2 engine, they have a FF-3001/FC3 engine that has the same output as the stock FF-3001A engine the mass production type uses. This POS really is just a ****ing VF-31A a Fold Wave System and some cosmetic modifications. I feel so goddamn trolled right now. That's what I get for daring to have expectations of basic competence for a Macross Delta title. -
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Seto Kaiba replied to Valkyrie Driver's topic in Movies and TV Series
To be honest, I've not seen that in any of the teased pages of the book thus far. From where did that come? -
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Seto Kaiba replied to Valkyrie Driver's topic in Movies and TV Series
I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. The VF-25 Master File covered the YF-24 and VF-24A a little in passing because the YF-25 (and VF-25) are directly derived from the YF-24 Evolution specification. To get any more of it, I think we'd need a Master File for another direct derivative like the VF-27 or YF-29. The VF-31 Master File didn't really touch on the YF-24 because the VF-31 is several derivations removed from it. The VF-31 Siegfried that the Master File covered is an aftermarket customization of the trial production VF-31 Kairos, which was a production-intent version of the final YF-31, which was an economized derivative of the YF-30 Chronos. The YF-30 Chronos was developed from the YF-24 Evolution spec used in the VF-25, YF-26, and VF-27, with some elements of the YF-29 added in. It's a LOT farther removed, even though it's nominally the same generation of aircraft. The VF-31AX Kairos Plus is, depending on which source you ask, either a Siegfried repaired with Kairos parts or a Kairos upgraded using Siegfried parts, so it's arguably a parallel branch off the base VF-31. Yup, multiple copies here... -
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Seto Kaiba replied to Valkyrie Driver's topic in Movies and TV Series
Coming Late December.* Kinda expecting this one to be a massive waste of paper, considering the first VF-31 book was pretty weak and largely copied from the VF-25 book while ignoring the actual VF-31 in favor of the one of a kind ace custom one. * If Softbank feels like it. -
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Seto Kaiba replied to Valkyrie Driver's topic in Movies and TV Series
Like most things in Macross Delta: Absolute Live!!!!!! the situation is rather vague, underdeveloped, and poorly described both in-story and in supplemental publications. Heimdall could probably best be described as "from all over". Like Vindirance in the Second Unification War, Heimdall is a nominally anti-government paramilitary force which was established to root out and destroy a source of corruption in the New UN Government and New UN Forces with the covert (and occasionally overt) backing of interested parties in the government, the armed forces, and private enterprise. Of course, where Vindirance was set against a fascist organization's attempted coup d'état, Heimdall aims to remove the incredibly ill-defined "Lady M" from her alleged role as a shadowy oligarch[1] ruling the galaxy in secret. The core of the organization - its founder and his flagship - originally belonged to the New UN Spacy's 7th Fleet and were therefore probably central New UN Spacy soldiers. That said, a lot of their support seems to come from emigrant governments and a mega-conglomerate that does most of its business selling to emigrant governments out on in remote areas like the Brisingr globular cluster. That's the price of "going off the grid", I guess. Battle Astraea was upgraded with a lot of bleeding-edge and/or illegal technology after the ship "disappeared" and was written off as lost, but in the absence of official specs for any of the new designs in the movie it's very difficult to say. If I had to guess, I would say that the Sv-303 Vivasvat is probably not Earth-level tech. Yeah, it outclasses the Aerial Knights in their Sv-262s and Delta Flight in their custom VF-31s but those are both confirmed bush league outfits. It's like testing out your new .50 cal sniper rifle by taking potshots at a cardboard box. Heimdall absolutely rolls them and takes over the Brisingr cluster in something like an afternoon instead of the multiple months Windermere needed. Of course, the Sv-303 is definitely outclassed by the YF-29 but seems about on par with a halfhearted upgrade to the Siegfried... which was not exactly an exceptional fighter even by the standards of production Valkyries. Of course, there is also the valid counterargument that the film also explicitly establishes that the protagonists are actually rather mediocre pilots... which has some pretty strong implications given that even the previous film and Macross Delta TV anime demonstrated that the quality of pilots can even overcome generation gaps in technology. It's possible that the Sv-303 simply looks like an unstoppable force because the protagonists lack the talent, skill, and experience to bring out the most in their custom 5th Generation VFs [1] Or, given how badly this story meshes with the rest of the setting, possibly a kakistocrat... most of the alleged bans on advanced technology can be demonstrated not to exist in the rest of the setting. -
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Seto Kaiba replied to Valkyrie Driver's topic in Movies and TV Series
Even in the OVA, it was clear from the outset that Jan Neumann was a prodigy... he's sixteen and has a PhD. As I've said in other topics, the DYRL? designs and conventions seem to have largely retroactively replaced the TV series versions for no apparent reason other than that Kawamori et. al. seem to like them more. The idea that there are a bunch of Zentradi who are such Earth-culture otaku they change their names is a bit funny in the abstract. Quite a lot, the last time I compiled a list it ran to at least three dozen places explicitly mentioned in-series and that was before Delta added something like two dozen more. Eh... other way 'round. That kit is one of at least thirteen that I'm aware of that are based on Master File original squadrons or color schemes and profiles Master File picked up from other, older works like Model Graphix and This is Animation Special: Macross Plus. That kit's from 2021. Variable Fighter Master File: VF-19 Excalibur is from 2010. The what now? There've never been definite numbers posted for any of that, so that sounds like it was probably fan fiction. All we've had on that front is an approximate population of postwar Earth of 1 million humans and 8 million Zentradi c.2010, some approximate numbers for the populations of a few of the emigrant fleets seen onscreen (really only Megaroad-01, Macross 7, and Macross Frontier), and a statement that the Brisingr globular cluster is home to 8 billion people circa 2067. Fleet-wise, it's a similar situation. We have little notion of the strengths of planets like Earth or Eden, but we know there have been ~100 short-distance emigrant fleet launches and at least 59 long-distance ones based on the highest sequentially-numbered fleet to appear in a story thus far (Macross 29 in the stage play Macross the Musiculture). There should be more than that, but we don't know if the pace of launches slowed down, sped up, etc. in the 2040s. There's never been anywhere near enough information to even get close to a reasonable estimate of the total human population or the size of the New UN Forces. I'm particularly fond of how many nods it makes to obscure bits of trivia from previous decades. My favorites are terribly subtle ones in the VF-25 Master File. There's one image that shows a YF-29 with a white-and-green paintjob that is a nod to its inspiration, the SW-XA II Schneegans from Kawamori's VF-Experiment article in Model Graphix magazine. The other is Sheryl's version of the Minmay Guard, the Queen's Knights, who have MODEX numbers assigned that correspond to Sheryl and Alto's birthdays.