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Personally, I think the whole "I want to enjoy the animation/I miss things while reading" argument is bunk, and I say that because I used to believe it. Back in yon day before DVDs, I always bought dubbed VHS tapes because of my limited finances (dubs always cost $20, while sub taped were $30). I used to think the same thing, until I started watching more anime subtitled, as well as foreign films in general. It takes a little while to get used to reading and watching, but it's really not a big deal. After 7-8 years, it's become completely second nature to me, and I don't feel that I miss any action by reading things. For those who believe that argument, I'd suggest seriously giving a subtitled program a chance, and you'll see for yourself that it's not a big problem.

I completely agree with you. I miss very little of the action or what's happening on screen (only when a person is talking really fast and the subs are going a mile a minute so I have to focus on them). Now, after watching anime for the past 10ish years, I honestly watch the anime and read at the same time! Hard to believe, but I can read and watch something at the same time without missing anything (not being mean here, but there are a lot of people that can't do this). English voice acting in general is horrible. There are exceptions, but it mostly sucks. There are some shows I like in English (Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex). Reading subs without missing anything is an acquired skill though, so it's something that most people won't be able do overnight.

But ultimately, it's just what you like and you should feel comfortable watching anime in whatever sub/dub format makes you happy. You either like subs or don't, no big deal either way so long as dub likers don't start getting preachy about people who watch/download the sub versions b/c the sub versions come out way before dubs and often dub versions don't have original japanese voices w/ subs. Likewise, sub likers shouldn't hate on people who like English dubs, even if the sub liker thinks the dubs are horrible. However, this I'm not saying that people shouldn't be able to say if a dub is horrible (bad acting, poor yells) or if the subtitler did a very bad job (lots of Engrish or messing up names).

Okay, so what are the general release dates for all the cool MOSPEADA stuff coming out from different companies? I know the CM Legioss/TREAD is supposed to be January 2008, but I don't have any clue when the cyclones from various companies or the Toynami Beta is supposed to be out.

No that was by Megahouse and is about 4-5" tall.

By small Cyclone, he means tiny, like micromachine size.

Here's a picture of the cyclones that will come with the set. The pic comes from earlier in this thread I think, but here it is again. The figures don't look like they can move, nor do they look transformable, but maybe they will be b/c that company does make some pretty tiny transforming things from time to time...

Guess Simon and Nia dies, thus bad end. XD

But at least humanity is saved.

I don't really think he'll die. That picture on the left only has him with a cut on his head somewhere (which we've seen people with wounds like that before who are totally fine in the end). The picture on the left looks more like a aftershot/teaser shot of some kind b/c the little kids who are on earth are with Yoko, and why they would be dead is anyone's guess (unless Gainax went nuts and decided to kill all the humans off in the show and let the bad guys win and I just don't see that b/c it would piss off so many people). I honestly think that "Heaven Only Knows" picture is just like the ton of One Piece artwork that comes out that has no real relation to the anime, just kind of passing thoughts the artists had that they thought would look cool.

I believe its all about balance. Too much GAR episodes and the thing would get real old real fast. And the background episodes were necessary to give the world more depth. You can't expect Simon to keep defeating the monster of the week right?

About hating superman...well... they wouldn't face this predicament if they stayed underground right? Its a "Matrix" scenario. They rather live their ignorant lives underground rather than wait for death to happen. Its underground...but hey...at least we're alive....alives is always better than dead right? A superman example more analogous to simon's situation is like.....Superman killed Lex Luthor who was planning to take over the world....and taking over the world is a bad thing right? But because Lex is dead, his leaderless henchmen decided to start wars around the world and inevitably end the world. Would the world hate Superman? I'd think so, yeah. And they did hate superman a few times in the comics for doing "the right thing". Emo Clark then appears.

I can kinda see how your Superman example works, but I think mine works too. I think the real fault is that the people in the show don't even give him a chance to stop it, they just come to the conclusion that we should kill the guy that has the best chance at saving the planet (b/c he's done it once already).

I honestly can't warrant paying more than $100-150 for something like this anymore b/c I could buy two games for that price with some money left over if it's around $150 and I just think I'd get more use out of the games. That's why I'd love to see smaller versions of these things. I don't know why companies think they have to make them huge to be cool. I've seen plenty of cool smaller figures (like the stuff Studio HalfEye puts out, although they are UBER expensive so they aren't the best example).

To be honest, this show has been going downhill since the midway point (post Helix King arc). Up until the end of episode 21, I was really losing hope for the show b/c part of what made the show so great was that it wasn't typical. It was VERY fast paced, had lots of action, made Heart over Mind a big issue that was continuously followed through, and the show never got boring to me. However, once Rossiu took over and they did the whole execution thing, it was just ridiculous that the people would turn on the hero of the world! That would be like everyone hating Superman b/c aliens attack looking for him eventhough he'll eventually save the planet (honestly, who didn't know that Simon would come back???). I think the writers made a bad choice to severely slow down the story. I think that they could have easily cut down the crappy slow paced "society" episodes to one or two shows and it would have been much better b/c the heart of the show wasn't there (the GAR just disappeared during that arc). Now the show seems back on track, but the damage was already done b/c even though I get pumped watching some of the newer episodes (I'm looking at you #22), it's not as exciting as it was before and I think it's because of the slow paced middle episodes that seemed out of place and very un-GAR-ish, which is basically the thing that makes the show great, so if it's gone, then the show kinda sucks.

At least it's back on track though (and still no signs of the mystery man in the opening episode from what I could see). I still think Kamina's gonna come back in the end and maybe open up a chance for a season two (like fighting in other dimensions or something).

Well Graham, if you really feel like having fun and getting fired up watching a show, then check it out. I'm pretty critical of shows and I thought the designs looked like S--t (note capital S) when I saw still frames of the show. Then I read about the show and it sounded okay (only 5 or so episodes were out). Then I forgot about it and saw a few posts about how great it was and decided to check it out (20ish episodes out). I watched all 20 or so in a 4 day period b/c it was that good that I had to keep watching and by the time I got to the last episode that was out, the fansub groups had just released the next episode. Now I'm hooked and want to see this show ASAP every week. It ROCKS! Even if you watch the first episode and don't like it, watch a few more, at least up until you see the character named Viral to make the judgement call on the show (I was hooked after the first episode).

Cathedral Terra will definitely get a robot mode and I'm hoping for toy versions of both modes b/c it rocks (and Arc-Gurren-Lagann too)! If not, I'm hoping a fan will make papercraft versions b/c those ships/bots are awesome. Heck, I may even have to try my hand at it!

So F-ing ridiculously AWESOME!!! The show kinda got stale for a few weeks when it slowed down but now that it's picked back up, it's incredible! And the way the show is going, it doesn't look like the ending will suck either (I'm so tired of the typical anime ending where half the cast dies for no reason kinda like Kamina). This could definitely be the best anime of 2007. And I plan to get those Gurren-Lagann figures too b/c they are sweet! Hopefully we'll get to see a Arc-Gurren Lagann figure and I'm sure that the other big surprise in the episode will turn into some kinda robot and hopefully we'll see it as a figure too!

Has anybody installed a wiikey on their wii yet. I know a site selling them for $25 and am really tempted to get one to play imports and backups.

I'm all for being able to mod a system if you want to b/c I like playing import games (have been doing so since PS1 days w/ Macross Digital Mission VFX being my first import), but I wouldn't mod a Wii right now. Their latest update bricked Wii's that had certain mod chips, some chips do still work though. If you're like me and just want to play imports, then wait until either the Freeloader or the Action Replay come out on the Wii. I still don't know if Nintendo has fixed their latest update that also stopped people from using Gamecube action replays and freeloaders on the Wii console to play gamecube games. I had heard they were gonna fix that "glitch" in their latest update, but I'm not sure if it's happened yet (I had also read that if Nintendo stopped people from using those, it somehow violated a US law about "owning" electronic equipment or something like that, so I'm sure Nintendo wouldn't want to welcome any lawsuits). To be honest, the latest update that stopped Freeloader and Action Replay users was plain stupid anyway since those devices let you either cheat or play imports, which can be fun (cheating) or earn Nintendo more money (importers that play games that never come to the US and there are a ton of those).

I honestly think the guy in episode 1 is gonna end up being Viral who's somehow been made human or makes himself appear more human. It could easily be b/c he's made to fight anti-spiral beings, and he somehow comes in contact w/ the key spiral and that alters him.

I also think the show is gonna end with Lagann using the little green "regeneration tank" to make Kamina and the he'll walk up behind everyone on the bridge naked and say something stupid and everyone will turn around and freak out b/c he's alive (and he won't know that he died), then they'll freak out b/c he's naked and he'll say something to Simon about being the leader he always knew he could be or something cool like that. B/c an ending like that would so fit this anime and hopefully forever break the crappy sad endings that most animes have.

And I can totally see a Season 2, subname = Piercing the Sprial Universe Gurren Lagann.

Well, we can't say we didn't see it coming. Not even 2 paragraphs into it and the writer acknowledges some blatant "co*k stroking" of the script writer...

Shamless buggery aside, this guy is way too enthusiastic over a script that most any other rational reader would conclude is as much garbage as the "junk" lions featured in it...

I don't really use that site too often, so does anyone know if that guy is one of the main reviewers?

I'm really starting to think that the reviewer is a close friend of the writer because he's way to happy about that sorry script.

I like it, especially for the size. Any clue of the price tags or the release dates on these? If they are cheap enough, I'll own one of each of the main 3 types. I'll even buy the more or less duplicate one if they are reasonably priced. I really hope they include small stands with these, or at least props for the back so that a person can pose the figures w/out them toppling over.

Also looks like the Beta/Alpha, Tread/Legioss hasn't really changed since we last saw it, which is disappointing.

Spoiler comments!!!!

I like the idea of a Voltron movie that's not corny, but I really don't like the junk-former lions. Seriously, these lions are gonna look crappy (and possibly corny/goofy) if they are built out of junk (which road spikes for teeth sounds like junk to me). If they had built them in secret, then why couldn't they have used better parts like military stuff. And what's even worse in my opinion is that road spikes and other junk weapons can beat a monster that (as we are made to believe based on the script) top of the line military armaments couldn't beat. To me, it's like shooting a monster with a nuclear bomb, seeing that the bomb does nothing, then having a little kid smack it with a stick and the thing dies from the stick attack. I know people were complaining over the Junk-former TF movie designs, I can only imagine how bad this will be since they are actually made of junk. I seriously hope this gets revised.

So, what ever happened to Project Z, aka GaoGaiGo?

Kids won't like this show at all b/c most kids now a days have no clue what half the stuff they are making fun of is. Also, the 8-bit graphics are only going to appeal to people who played games like that growing up, so again, modern day kids won't be pleased without top end graphics.

As for me, I LOVE it! I think this show is hilarious. It has so many throwbacks and references to games/people/events, it's great. If anyone doesn't like it, it's probably because they don't like games or are too young to get it. The full version of the theme song is great too.

Any update on these figures/models?

So I'm guessing there weren't any Toynami representatives there that could give out information on release dates for the Fast Packs?

I like small stuff that I can mess around with (like the tiny Optimus Prime and the small Valkyries that have come out). So, as long as the size doesn't hurt the toys appearance/durability significantly, I'm all for it. We have at least 2 other larger versions of the Cyclone/Ride Armor, so why not get a little one too, assuming it's cheap. Anyone know the exact prices on the different ride armors from the different companies yet?

IIRC the fast packs did not have any indication of a release date. It seems the MPC Beta is Toynami's current priority as it was the only one that had a prospective date of this year with others all being TBD... which certainly could mean this year... Really, if they're smart, a whole bunch of toys will get released in Sep/Oct to take advantage of the holidays.

In that case, I'll just wait until there's a confirmation that these will actually be released before I spend $25-30 on a VF-1J Max. I still don't have a whole lot of faith in Toynami products without set release dates.

So any official word on when the fast packs are gonna be released? I'll have to pick up a max just for the Fast Packs.

I wish the price was a little lower too, b/c $12 is a little higher than I was expecting.

I seriously doubt they'll really fix much.

Of course, the only really decent Transformers shows are maybe a few, individual, episodes from G1 (and I'm being generous there), the original movie, and Beast Wars (and even though I hate the art and story direction it went it, Beast Machines was much better written than most Transformers series). I sincerely doubt it can get much worse than most of what's already out there.

I believe stating that "America's animation these days isn't for us, it's for a new generation" kinda misses the point. Rose tinted glasses and all that.

I might as well quote myself from the Transformers thread (why does this warrant it's own thread anyways?):

Love that quote you posted!

I'm betting it wouldn't be too hard to mod a 1/60 YF-19 into a VF-19P. Much easier than, say, converting to a M7 VF-19S.

I don't know if this is the kit, or a custom.

http://www.geocities.co.jp/Playtown-Queen/.../macross-04.htm