Duke Togo

KotOR force bond? I dunno, but her death is just horribly handled. I never quite figured out how she moved around as well as she did 9 months pregnant with twins in her.

The SDF-3 in Watto's junkyard?!?! The secret revealed!

I was under the impression that Alien and Aliens were "special editions," and not "director's cuts." I'm fairly certain the theatrical cuts are the "intended" versions of the films. Speaking of director's cuts, I don't think any single movie has benefited from one as much as Kingdom of Heaven.

I always refer to it as just Khan. *shrug* I'm not a Trek fan and I don't have a lot of friends who are Star Trek fans (atleast, none that ever talk about it), but I can't say I've ever heard or seen it referred to as TWOK.

The Japanese DVD's have an english dub? The only thing Macross II has going for it is the Metal Siren.

This sounds like some sort of riddle that they'd have to solve in order to find where he is lost in space.

WTF is TWOK?

Not sure what this has to do with killing the bad guy. He's going to kill everyone else, so it's self defense.

Can't I strike him down without giving in to anger? Seems like a pretty justifiable move, to me.

1,000 replies in this thread! No, I have nothing to add, here.

The writer says he's not a replicant, Harrison Ford says he's not a replicant, and the book the movie is based on says he's not a replicant. Even with the silly unicorn scene, there's nothing in the movie that actually proves that he is a replicant. And don't anyone bother to bring up the "eyes" bit; its already known that the scene where Deckard's eyes get that replicant look is because Ford accidentally stepped into Sean Young's light.

Abyss director's cut I never much liked mainly because of the ending. It just seemed so heavy-handed to me. Dad Boot is a bit different, because in it's original form it wasn't a film, it was a miniseries. The director's cut extends the run time by an hour, but it's still only just over half of it's original 6-hour length. I've seen both the theatrical and director's cuts, but the viewing was so many years apart I can't even tell you which was superior or what was different.

That's really the whole thing, Mike. I don't care what he does, if he also provides us with the originals. I also don't feel that he "raped" my childhood; I think such analogies and childish and borderline offensive.

Lightsabers make everything better, don't you know this? As far as context goes, here ya go: George Lucas' 1988 Congressional Testimony Sure he did, when he made them available for purchase.

When I saw Aliens at a theater in Dallas 1986, it had the famous "sentry gun" scene in it. For years none of my friends knew what I was talking about, nor could I find any proof that the scene existed. It wasn't until the special editions of the Alien movies came out in the late 90's that I finally saw that scene again. However, the added scene with Newt's parents seems unnecessary to me, though it's not enough to put me off of watching it. BTW, as far as Highlander II goes, it's the only movie I've ever walked out of in the theater. I don't care how they cut it, I don't think you can salvage anything out of that mess.

The idea for this topic kinda sprung out of an ongoing debate in the Star Wars blu-ray thread, and I thought there might be enough folks around here interested in film to make a real discussion out of it (not centered around Star Wars). Theatrical cuts of films may or may not have been altered by studio exec's who have no business touching film. Director's cuts may return film to its original intended "vision," but was that vision too unwieldy or unfocused to begin with? Are extended and special editions anything more than a marketing ploy? And WTF is an "unrated" cut, anyway? Personally, I feel the whole theatrical vs director's cut argument largely depends on the film and the director. There is no question in my mind that the director's cut of Kingdom of Heaven is vastly superior for the theatrical, for instance. Extended and special editions are a novelty for me, and I'll check them out if the original film was something I enjoyed. Apocalypse Now and Gladiator are both films I love, but I've found their extended versions to be interesting at best, and too much at their worst. As far as "unrated" versions, I've never seen one, but I always assumed these editions meant nothing more that more boobs and cursing. Anyway, I'd like to hear the opinions of anyone who is interested in the discussion. It's not about being right or wrong, and maybe we'll all find something new to watch in the process.You wanna talk about the SW Special Editions? Go for it. The "restored" version of Metropolis? Keen. Blade Runner Final Cut? I've got your unicorn right here.

When you get down to it, to each their own. I'll enjoy the films the way I want, and you can enjoy them the way you want. This really is getting away from the discussion on the quality of the video transfers of the Saga.

I've seen plenty of kids who absolutely love Star Wars in the past decade, but we're a while away from knowing whether or not it will stick with them. To some degree I feel part of being a fan was being around when all of this was fresh and new, and being caught up with the Star Wars craze that swept the planet. It's like being marinated in it, and that "taste" will always be there.

Kasdan did a majority of the work on the RotJ script, but it is my understanding that the total product is the work of 4 people. You mean the Director's Guild? And that is a gross oversimplification of why he went against the DGA. I don't have to say it, Lucas said it himself 23 years ago:

Studio's don't hire directors? He's no better than a Studio suit altering someone else's work. And "he wrote the story for both and hired a script writer to polish it" could not be more wrong. Lucas wrote a "treatment," which was handed off to a screenwriter(s), who actually wrote it. JRR Tolkien had more to do with the LotR movie trilogy script than Lucas did with TESB and RotJ, and he had been dead for 25 years.

Technically speaking, he neither wrote or directed TESB or RotJ. What he's done with them is no different than a studio stepping in and re-cutting or otherwise altering a film to their liking, over the objections of the director.

He did, until Lucas came in and "improved" Duke's scenes by adding dialog..

Considering this entire thread is based around hate, I find your comment someone hypocritical (and ironic, considering I don't really get involved in this discussion). You also wildly exaggerate.

My bad, dawg, my bad. And yes, I am well aware the BD's will have better picture quality than Harmy's release of the OT. I'm not blind, nor am I stupid. But considering I get to watch the films as they were intended to be seen, I'm pretty happy with the picture quality. They're far superior to the letterboxed GOUT DVDs.