Podcast: Mobile Suit Gundam Char's Counterattack

[Phyrox]

It's much more analogous to completely razing an entire forest to prevent wood beetles from destroying the trees.

Eventually, somewhere down the line there will probably be healthy trees in this place again, but not for a long time, and the "cure" was a lot more damaging than the initial disease.

Because, you know, cancer's usually not as bad as chemo. And massive k-t level extinction events are much, much worse than anything people do, or will do (with the notable exception of Char)

Edited September 26, 2008 by Phyrox

[Roger]

Humans on earth, means destruction and pollution.

Dropping asteroids on earth isn't destructive or polluting?

The idea that Char is doing this to save the Earth is bogus. It's about Char's deep-seated need to control others.

[kung flu]

Dropping asteroids on earth isn't destructive or polluting?

The idea that Char is doing this to save the Earth is bogus. It's about Char's deep-seated need to control others.

Char really dosen't care about the people on earth, he tried in Zeta to persuade the elites about how destructive mankind is, yet they don't listen and wish to carry on as if nothing was happening. Amuro in CCA cares for the people on earth and believes or has hopes for mankind to eventually progress, but Char has grown impatient and wants to accelerate space immigration and evolution.

Char's plan, though destructive, we know the earth would recover eventually, since the earth has survived many astroid impacts far worst in the past. No one says it'll be an instant "cure" and evoloution dosen't happen over night, everything takes time, Char's plan was for the long term. He was able to have an army and support that actually believed in his plan/ theory, but ultimately he just wanted to settle the score with Amuro.

[Roger]

Char's plan, though destructive, we know the earth would recover eventually, since the earth has survived many astroid impacts far worst in the past. No one says it'll be an instant "cure" and evoloution dosen't happen over night, everything takes time, Char's plan was for the long term.

Char's plan was all based on speculation by one person: Char, and he was willing to throw away billions of peoples' lives for it. That's the very definition of a tyrant.

He was able to have an army and support that actually believed in his plan/ theory, but ultimately he just wanted to settle the score with Amuro.

Absolutely, he was selfish as well.

There's no way for someone to believe that Char's actions in this movie are defensible in any way.

Edited September 26, 2008 by Roger

[kung flu]

Absolutely, he was selfish as well.

There's no way for someone to believe that Char's actions in this movie are defensible in any way.

Yeah, Char is the the ultimate user of people

As for his plan, i'm not trying to defend, but trying to explain it to those who just don't or refuse to understand it.

[Phyrox]

Yeah, Char is the the ultimate user of people

As for his plan, i'm not trying to defend, but trying to explain it to those who just don't or refuse to understand it.

That's nice of you, but I think everyone understands his plan. It isn't very complicated.

It is just really, really stupid.

Edited September 26, 2008 by Phyrox

[Ginrai]

Edit:- if you still don't understand, think of a cancer patient. In order to remove the cancer you use radiotherapy to remove/kill the cancer cells. By bombarding the body with radiation the cancer is being reduced, but at the same time the radiation is harmful to the patient's body too, he'll begin to feel week/sick and lose his hair etc. Once the cancer is completely removed, the patient still has to recover from all the raditaion side effects which would take months or years. In this case Earth is the patient, Humans is the cancer and the astroids is the radiation.

This is bombarding the body with a NUCLEAR BOMB instead of cancer radiation.

[kung flu]

This is bombarding the body with a NUCLEAR BOMB instead of cancer radiation.

???? you still don't get it??? or are you just joking about

[Ginrai]

???? you still don't get it??? or are you just joking about

I'm being facetious.

I agree with Roger. The idea that you will stop humans polluting earth by making earth suffer a nuclear winter is ridiculuos. That's committing the ultimate act of pollution and largely collapsing the ecosystem. Yes, it will eventually recover most likely, but very different. If the idea is to protect the plants and animals on earth, this is a terrible way to do it.

Edited September 26, 2008 by Ginrai

[Beltane70]

I never got the impression that Char was trying to save Earth from polluting humans. I always thought that his goal was to punish the "old types" for their exploitation of newtypes and other injustices.

[kung flu]

because the vast majority of mankind already live in space and they are being ruled by the minority on earth, which is why space people are disgruntled with them. They get to live in luxury and rule from a distance. By forcing these people or wipe them out from earth is probably the reason Char was able to get the support needed for his army.

Edited September 27, 2008 by kung flu