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As far as we know the Neo Glaug bis is basically a manned Neo Glaug. The prototype Neo Glaug was unmanned. The Neo Glaug omits the Battroid present I the Variable Glaug. My take on it is simplified for mass production  and ease of maintenance. The Variable Glaug was designed for child Meltrandi to pilot. While the full potential of the Neo Glaug would need a Meltran to pilot it , it allows Zentrans to do so too. Known pilots of the Neo Glaug is Temjin during the novel version of his revolt in the 33rd Marines and Naresuan as a Fasces craft. The Neo Glaug bis aka VBP-1 Neo Glaug is a craft used by full sized Zentradi NUNS. There is also the VA-110 Neo Glaug which is a Miclone pilot version.

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16 hours ago, Bolt said:

Granted it's a variant of the Nousjad- But..

Itano Circus happened😉

We only know it as a Battlesuit. Nousjadeul-Ger versions if we go by Macross 7 Encore having both versions of the Queadluun-Rau both possibly exist in a setting. 

There is a variety of Battle Suit types that turns out has been around during the Stellar Republic. The Queadluun-Quilqua and Queadluun-Alma are such examples but the ones we do see are customized. Emilia's Queadluun-Quilqua has lights and a smoke machine installed. Anger's Queadluun-Alma has elements from the Feios Valkyrie and the Protodevlin barrier. The Battlesuit also is a Stellar Republic Era craft we just don't know what is it's Zentradi name.

DanCreator made a VF-1S Valkyrie with cardboard. 

Any other Macross art craft like this you've seen? Besides with Legos.

Between SDF Macross Quamzin, Macross 2036/Eternal Love Song Quamzin, and Macross Frontier's Temjin you'd think Quamzin being well Quamzin is not a bug but a feature. 

I still can't fathom what Laplamiz sees in the guy! 

Ninjin loves you yeah!

15 minutes ago, pengbuzz said:

On that note: what did they feed the Zentraedi soldiers in the fleets? I don't recall seeing them having dinner, but I don't remember too well from SDFM.

Quamzin had something like a giant drumstick.

21 minutes ago, darkranger12 said:

Can't say I like Moruk's DYRL design either.  But thats my opinion.

Well DYRL Laplamiz isn't even a biological being but a holographic computer. Macross being Metafiction I can see the Protoculture actually have the technology for Artificial Intelligence. Terrans has been playing with that as seen with Sharon Apple, Manfred, and Cyberoids like El. 

Thus still came from the episode Satan's Dolls where Exsedol lays down who the Protoculture were and the origins of the Zentradi. Warships designs are not organic Zentradi aesthetics. We never seen Meltrandi with these ships either. Given how long the the Zentradi has been chasing the Supervision Army around and the loss of Factory Satellites producing a particular armament either broken by age or outright destroyed in sabotage entire manufacturing lines are lost. 

3 hours ago, TG Remix said:

Right, I assumed so. Was more or less arguing if the designs themselves were potentially from there. But considering we know so little of them aside from their ties with the Protodevlin we can only assume otherwise.

We know at least the manufacturers of the Regult, Glaug and Nupetiet-Vergnitzs  took their inspiration from "Nature". The Regult and Glaug were based on the forms of the Vajra. While the Nupetiet-Vergnitzs was based on the form of Galactic Whales. Both are naturally Fold capable species. 

The Meltrandi are not the Supervision Army. Do note the Protoculture are not only made up of differing factions that use Zentradi as proxies in their wars but the Factory Satelllites has different manufacturers running them. 

The Supervision Army itself were originally the force guarding the Scientifically Advanced Planet where the Evil Series were made. And it turns out the Protodevlin also stole from the Protoculture that run the place a Factory Satellite that did not need robot ships to gather resources as it produces matter from Energy.

Wait there are two ships named Haruna? Max was assigned to one.

I don't think either the ARMD or Oberths were designed to have Fold Drives at the time. the SDF-2 certainly but it is still under construction on the Moon. The SDFN class had recycled Zentradi parts such as weapons.

The point of stealing the Factory Satelites was to increase their industrial capacity. To get the ball rolling for the Mankind Seeding Plan.

14 minutes ago, TG Remix said:

So like how the Varauta government established itself under a name and follows it own rules (VF-14 Vampire's as a main fighter instead of the Thunderbolt, and their different uniforms and suits compared to the 37th Long Distance fleet if that's an indicator) but still follow UN regulations? Actually now that I say it, is it said what their ships from 7 are based off of any other pre-existing designs from the UN like their Variable fighters, or they're brand new designs?

 

I understand now. Still it is funny how the Caliburn based it off a second generation type but almost everything else wants us to believe it came from a first gen. Kinda a shame the VF-19F didn't pop off as the next main fighter, Their track record with the Emerald Force already treated them as cannon fodder anyways.😆 I'm not complaining though, the Nightmare Plus fills that hole in my heart, though it's funny to me how that's not the most produced Excalibur but the VF-19C was.

 

Two of them? That's news to me. Though I assume that exported VF-24 diagrams could be given to any colony, just that almost any variation we see won't look the same as the New UN/"local" VF-24?

We've seen the YF-24 Evolution design tweeked in  several ways already. Màcross Galaxy has the YF-27 Shaher which is closer to the original silhouette and the MP VF-27 that has four engines. Macross Frontier went with VF-25 and the four engined YF-29. Macross Galaxy stoke the idea of four engines from the proposed YF-29 as the data was leaked to them. Aisha Blanchet made the YF-30 which is close to the YF-24 Evolution silhouette as well. The VF-31 was derived from it.

On screen we have seen all derivatives. The actual VF-24 not  yet.

In the case of planets Pripure and Ouroboros the SDFN class settled as part of their capitals. 

One has to note that was the same time the Zauber Flute, communication system that uses Fold Quartz retroactively, was introduced. Said to increase communication speeds ten times. Though the tech was modified for the Sound Jamming System.

I can see why Grammia joined Vindirance as his planet has a precious resource that is important to Lactence's agenda.

Given it is mentioned in passing in several media I think the Laramis system, particularly planet Sephira, serves analogous to Anchorage, Alaska being a transit hub.

First mentioned in Macross VF-X2 there are two missions on it. In Macross Frontier side story manga featuring Isamu Dyson he made a stop there before going to Eden as ordered. Rion Sakaki of SMS Sephira branch delivered the YF-24 to the planet Ouroboros. When his condition got worse Messer was supposed to transfer the Xaos branch in the Laramis system. But a short time later he folded back to save both Walkure and Delta squad.

Considering several mentions and illustrations of expansion. Orion Spiral Arm that is  given. Come Macross 7 several fleets courses lead them to the core region of the Galaxy.  Macross Frontier explicitly said they are on the Saggitarius Carina Spra Arm. Though still corewards. The setting of Macross Delta has it around the rim more specifically in illustration the a Globular Cluster at the end of the Saggitarius Carina Spiral Arm.

Thus it becomes clear. Some fleets are not randomly exploring they are going for old Protoculture territory where there is high chance for a habitable A class planet. 

12 hours ago, TG Remix said:

Looking through the New Macross Class launch dates

While launch dates are evident we don't know the exact dates of construction and commissioning of New Macross Classes. Macross Musiculture has Macross 29 celebrate its 30th anniversary. The year is 2062 it would make it 2032 when it began. Thing is they don't just sent ships. It has citizens, an autonomous government, military, corporations, and the fleet is somehow sponsored for the voyage. For Frontier it was Richard Bilrer transport mogul. For Galaxy General Galaxy a megacorp.

1 minute ago, TG Remix said:

would there be any word on the Annabella Lasiodora as well?

It is a Critical Path Corporation product if I remember right.

3 minutes ago, TG Remix said:

but I'm assuming they weren't as fortunate as Moaramia herself?

Whether good end or bad end there is angst. Basically whether playing Max, Milia or Moaramia they told the Commander to F-Off at the last stage. Though I speculate Ariel Jiffon which appeared in the Macross Frontier novelization I think is possibly a Clone. Moa's original name was Moaramia Jiffon before being forcebly adopted. 

I haven't seen Milia's post boss dialogue but both Max and Moa regrets being unable to save Moa's sister clones. In the Bad End Moa's losses control of her emotions becoming an angry Zentradi. In the Good End she quits being in the military becoming a civilian.

14 minutes ago, TG Remix said:

The UN probably wouldn't adopt it like the Variable Glaug though, considering it seems they prefer more smaller, easy to produce and maintain mechanics.

Well Moa said in the stage when it combine it was Big. My guess around Koenig Monster Battroid size or bigger.

5he Zentradi mutineers which left Earth set up shop in the abandoned colony of Elysium and made custom versions of their craft with Stealth surfaces.

Also the two forms of the Zentradi Saishuu Heiki. They just inverted the stacking combination.

Well the Zentradi Remnant didn't exactly rest on their laurels once some of them learned engineering. The Variable Glaug was developed using leaked tech from the VF-4. In turn UNS stole from them developing a Miclone version of the Variable Glaug and eliminating the Battroid mode for the Neo Glaug. The Neo Glaug is actually a NUNS craft. While lore wise mutineers stole a VFX-11 during a revolt on Earth developing from it the Feios I feel design wise it us similar to the FBz-99G Saubergeran as it is flying wing and Battroid mode. The Zentradi Final Weapon is a strange combiner with two forms. A Humanoid Battle Suit like form and Jamming mode. It is piloted by Moaramia's clone sisters. Both the Variable Glaug and Zentradi Final Weapon were developed with child Zentradi or Meltrandi in mind. 

The Gjagravan-Va on the other hand seems to be tank Destroid platform.

32 minutes ago, TG Remix said:

This is from Delta I'm assuming? I only caught the first episode, but is it officially said if it belongs to the New Macross Class?

One thing is for sure it isn't called per se a  City class. My guess it is similar to that unnamed ship frequently seen in shots of the Macross 7 fleet that seems smaller and has a clam shell. Macross 7 fleet had private emigration ships like the Mark Twain that did not have a docked escort ship.

Megaroad 4 discovered Windermere in 2027 at the ass end of the Brisingr Globular Cluster. Full of Fold Faults making navigation difficult. However at the other end closer to the galaxy proper Ragna 800 lightyears  away gets clear Fold Wave signals that Xaos set up shop there as a communication and media megacorp. I take the implication is that Ragnans, Voldorians and Windermerans had first contact with the NUN roughly close in a set of years.

4 minutes ago, darkranger12 said:

Now I'm curious about the population size of each Macross 1 City ship. Also if they were as small as Jackpot was I don't think a NMCV ship could be attached to one of them.

The New Macross Class fleets is said to be a million or more. In the case of Macross 5#s City 5 it had 300,000 residents on it. In the case of Macross 7's City 7 it had 350,000 people aboard but the rest of the population is distributed among the various big ships of the fleet. Macross 4 which terraformed Sephira had 1 million emigrants at the beginning in 2034 by 2050 it had a population of 6 million people.