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Mac II. Yeah you lot are going to say Macross II is not canon but it's a great example of what we would be expectng the years after SDF:Macross. The Earth has to regularly defend itself from marauding Zentraedi fleets. They have no problem until the Marduk controlled Zentraedi show up, and wackiness ensues!
Why would we be expecting that?
If the zentradi know we're here, it means Bodol told his superiors about us, and they know he tried and failed to exterminate us.
They may not know HOW we annihilated an entire fleet, but they darn sure aren't going to muck about with the retaliatory strike. We'll see a rerun of the final battle, only instead of one fleet there'll be 2, 3, 4, or however many more they've deemed appropriate. If they're mad enough, we may see the entire SOLAR SYSTEM packed end to end with flying pickles of death.
Defold, open fire, and instead of a nearly dead Earth, we'll have a totally dead Earth, or perhaps even an asteroid belt for an Earth.
The same counterattack strategy won't work twice because A. we don't have a grand cannon to clear an assault corridor, and B. there's multiple flagships.
Once they see what's happening, they'll tighten defenses around the other ships, and a second kamikaze strike will be shot down. Minmay's song didn't render them completely helpless the first time, and they gunned down a lot of our fighters.
If the zentradi know we're here, we're dead. Period.
Mac2 is exactly what you WOULDN'T expect to have happen.
Hence the colony missions. Global recognized that we survived through sheer luck the first time, and that if Bodol was keeping the bosses informed or another fleet happened upon us through chance, we were screwed. So he started a project to get humanity spread among as many solar systems as possible, as soon as possible.
That's why Megaroad 1 was sent clear to the other side of the galaxy, even though it was humanity's second interstellar mission, first home-made interstellar vessel, and we still had a VERY low population. It was risky, but it spread us as far as possible as fast as possible.
In fact, I don't really have any problem accepting MacII as canon since it takes place years later and half a galaxy away from Mac7.And there we are. Anything's fair game if it lets us take a dig at Mac7.
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Macross Mecha Designs isn't any sort of place to be pulling stats and story info from, for the record.
His data is what he needed to implement those vehicles in RPGs.
He made a lot of it up, either because the existing data didn't fit his purposes or because there wasn't any real data(as is the case with the X9).
It's not really relevant to anything.
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Ooh yeah, she's a hottie too--but there's something that's just not quite right. Those *ahem* combat uniforms are definitely alluring. But the whole "complete synthetic body" thing is a bit creepy. You gotta wonder: would she feel all cold and plasticy?
The tech level in GitS is high enough that they simulate the feel of a real body.
At least in the "normal" ones.
There's all sorts of specialized and non-humanoid bodies with diffrent design goals than social interaction(pretty sure the cube-bot made it into SAC, for a quick example of one such body).
Motoko can't swim, though. Her body's too heavy, due to the design goals of strength and durability(there ARE swimmable bodies, including ones explicitly designed for it).
I'd be more worried about her crushing me accidentally.
Meh, just get my own mecha body. I'm not a big fan of my current one anyways.
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But then, her's is mil-spec. Can probably tear right through anything I can buy.
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ok ok ill give up on the first point,
Like I said, it's a required suspension of reality for the genre.
Maybe a delay would work.
A knee button prevents using the system for leg motions.
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Actually, reading through the posts, to my surprise, the top quality the MW blokes are looking for in a woman is ability to cook…um…interesting...a good meal over a lust body
.We spent all our testosterone on mecha. We don't have any left over for women.
'Sides, Belldandy looks pretty darn good too.
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i think your also forgetting the fact that fokker did tell him about some of the controls while making repairs to his battleroid
Knowing how they work isn't the same as being capable of using them.
I'm pretty sure you weren't an immediate automobile master when you first sat behind the wheel. I know I wasn't. And a steering wheel and gas pedal is a LOT simpler than the mess of switches, joysticks, and pedals in a VF-1.
Even assuming perfect mastery of motion by description alone, gauging the proper pressure to apply would be VERY difficult.
(That's one of the major problems they've had with artificial hands, actually. They need a way for the user to tell how hard he's grabbing an object so he can not crush an egg while still having enough power to get a firm grasp on a heavy object. )
How do you hit the switch to turn it off?
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...quotes dont seem to work
Sorry about that. Forgot a tag while trimming it down. Fixed now.
ill agree with the fact that the zentran suits wouldnt fit, but i still think given more attention to detail it would have showen stuff like tars and rips and what not in the suit...........Perhaps.
about the valk movementsfair arguments.... well, im sure would there be a way to easily "dial up" the grip of the arm allowing hikaru to simply "grab" minmay? i was talking about long complex movements like putting on cloths, from what i remember the movements desplayed in the "pick up minmay" part was rather simple; arm down, close grip...
It reads as a simple action. Actually doing it is a tad harder.
Hikaru's never operated a VF before in his life. His sum total of experience consists of being shot down in a dog fight and crashing a battroid through a city block before walking it into an apartment. He's only just found out the sticks move the hands at all.
Picking Minmay up on the first try without missing totally, slapping her in the face, or crushing her to death should be a rather difficult task, especially without any tactile feedback.
as for max we know he was in a flight suit and helmet, there are already systems existing in the realworld to detect the detailed location of a pilots helmet, in an apache helicopter, this allows the pilot to aim a gun mounted on the bottem of the chopper simply by turning his head to where it should be aimed, (in macross zero we see fokker's point of view as he fallows an enemy fighter, just after he looks somewhere elese, we see the arms of the valk, in gerwalk mode, almost fallow the movement of his head)there are also sensors that can pick up instructions to a persons muscles(this is used for prostetics, but its less useful because you cant segragate the nerves of the fingers and wrist farther up the arm where the useual amputation is preformed for example)
what if the valk had a switch on it to detect these peices of information i described, and amplify them allowing for minimal movement by the pilot and maximum output to the valk, having redundency in the controls is already used in aircraft of today, there are a few buttens that do the same thing, allowing the pilot to be more flexable and reach for the closest butten when in a jam.
Hmmm... Might work. Not as well as it sounds, but possibly good enough.
It's really a somewhat limited control scheme for a war machine, though.
Head-tracking and eye-tracking are rational additions. It's the most intuitive method of rapidly designating targets using real-world technology.
Full-body tracking is much less useful, as there aren't intuitive motions to activate a lot of features, and you'll do something unintended while reaching for the controls to do them.
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But it's a common theme for mech anime, and one of the more common suspensions of reality that come with the genre. A couple of joysticks and foot pedals is enough to create any motion you may need, and to do it intuitively as well.
Roboetch's novelizations excuse this with a neural interface(much like MacPlus's YF21 does), but this doesn't fit the animation(and in the Macross universe Plus makes it chronologically impossible).
well how about this.... prehaps there are certain preset motions trigured by gestures that the pilot inputs, if the valk has any desplay screen modes like modern fighter jets im sure there would be a way to start mapping out a new motion, but it might be a little time consuming to do in the middle of a battle
It still requires training.
Remember a completely untrained Hikaru picking Minmay up with a damaged GERWALK? "Beginner's skill" is a common staple of the genre.
And I doubt Max could program a "put on a uniform that doesn't quite fit" routine in a reasonable amount of time. Then the touch where he reached up and pulled the hat down low as a soldier came down the hall... pure improv.
It would've worked better if he'd been staying hidden the whole time.
Would've been harder to rescue 3 people with a 1-man fighter, but it blew up anyways, so no great loss.
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*ahem*
Coke has no urine-colored products in my area, then.
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Millia. She's hot, she's a gamer, she has green hair.
Ami from Sailor Moon. Smart, shy, into computers... Aww heck... she's me with boobs.
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If I recall some statistcial data about the average Zentraedi, I hear that they are about 35-40 feet tall compared to the VF-1 Battroid mode height which is 47 feet tall.
Compendium says Zenmtradi are about 5 times the average human. That's more along the lines of 25-30 feet than 35-40.
The 2 zentradi characters with heights listed are Millia and Britai.
She's about 28, and he's 44 and a half. He's also notably bigger than the men under his command.
VF-1's height in battroid mode is 12.68 meters, which works out to 41.6 feet.
One of Robotech's major statistical deviations is that the average zentradi is 40-ish. This comes from assuming Britai is of average height. This makes Max's costuming stunt a lot more workable in Robotech, though the clothes would still hang quite wrong on the battroid's body.
Therefore I believe that some VF'S can wear Zentraudi clothes depending on their battloid heightI hope you meant depending on the zentradi's height, as all VF-1s are built to the exact same specification.
Legs and torso too.
But it's a common theme for mech anime, and one of the more common suspensions of reality that come with the genre. A couple of joysticks and foot pedals is enough to create any motion you may need, and to do it intuitively as well.
Roboetch's novelizations excuse this with a neural interface(much like MacPlus's YF21 does), but this doesn't fit the animation(and in the Macross universe Plus makes it chronologically impossible).
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PS---amazingly, I found SEVEN 360's at K-Mart today.
I've been seeing them around here, too.
MS seems to have finally gotten their production up.
I still prefer top loaders----all my PS2 games since I got my Slim PS2 are still utterly pristine, as opposed to the "very faintly scratched just from putting it in the tray a few times" all my others are. PSX games? Perfect for years, until they were used in a PS2. Dreamcast? Not a one is anything other than flawless. XB? All slightly scratched.I haven't really kept score.
Partially because I've got a heap of used games. 'S just not worth tracking which ones were mint originally.
I prefer top-loaders just because the mechanism is simpler. All other things being equal, a toploader will last longer than a tray or slot mech.
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Of course, the tracking assembly(Sony's machines) and hub motors(Dreamcast) have proven the weak links in recent years, so it doesn't much matter. Pity they can't/won't spend the cash for a high-quality drive mech.
At least MS is using standard drives, so it should easy to fix when the optical drive dies(if my assumptions about the drive using standard firmware are correct). Hard drive'll take a bit more work.
Yes, I expect an uncommon amount of longevity.
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Yeah, but why take the chance anyways.
Besides You'd have to put some many holes(tray, connectors, wireless feed, etc) in it that the problems would only be slightly masked for your efforts, unless you went crazy and spent some serious amount of time on it(which I'm sure someone will do & props to 'em for doing it!). I'd just try out an sound damping blanket first to see if it helped any and go from there. It would be a shame to coverup the design though. :/
Gods I wish E3 would hurry up!
You could actually do a lot to it.
And since we're worried about drive noise, you could put the panels directly on the drive. Might cause thermal issues, though.
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Exactly as I was saying no need to be rude. Or blunt
Blunt is my natural state. I get right to the point and skip the paragraph of fluff surrounding the important sentence.
You incorrectly assume it's meant to offend.
just advise the person.I did.
Someone could respond to the effect of:"Hey .... you have a good question however thats not the subject we are speaking of here please try this post http://www.macrossworld/forum/topic........ or post one of your own."
Waste of words. "Wrong thread" is so much shorter.
I'm not offended in the least.
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And he never should've passed for one.
Really... wouldn't you guys notice if you walked by someone with his collar pulled up real high, his hat pulled down low, and a big green glass plate where his face should be?
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No one's ever really sure.
Sidenote: I HAVE gotten injured while picking stuff off of a carpeted floor. Was at school, and somehow a staple had gotten caught in teh carpet, point up.
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I always liked Fleet of the Strongest Women and imagine there could be a whole series/OVA about a time period between SDF:Macross and M7 based on encounters with other fleets.
Interesting comment in FotSW that they didn't think there could be any fleets that large anymore. How can we reconcile that with the comment in DYRL (presumably in universe for the 2040'ish 'audience' ) that there were thousands of fleets like those of Bodolza and Laplamiz...
DYRL was scare-mongering propaganda to get people to support more military spending.
Max was a high-ranking military officer and knew a more accurate version of things than the masses.
Tada! Instant justification!
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Only way it'd work is if Max jumped a "high-ranking" zentradi, like Britai. They're about Valk size.
It'd still be a pretty bad fit, and probably wouldn't work.
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What, you don't have a thing for odd hair colors?
Maybe you could talk her into bleaching it.
I can cook, though. And I'm a fairly picky eater, so it's better for both of us(I'm not picking stuff out of her food, so she's happy, and I'm getting a meal I like, so I'm happy).
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Of course, she was willing to learn, and new to human cuisine.
Shouldn't be too hard to indoctrinate her to my tastes.
I'm blunt too. It just saves me the trouble of saying it.
I really am glad I'm not anywhere near as cynical as you are.