Heron

^^ I've pointed this out in the Episode Thread as well. So which is canon, the one we saw in Episode 4 or the one in episode 6?

Also, speaking of technology am I the only one who is in disbelief of the Red Lobster's capabilities?

According to the Leon in Episode 5:

== Makes its own missiles....WTF!!!??? Unlimited Ammo!!!

== Has a reactor capable of powering ECA and Fold Generator.

Can anyone say SUPER OVERPOWERED?

1. Uhmm if they have killed two or more of them, then no they are not overpowered. Least of all uber powered.

2. Variable fighters can fold, have damn near unlimited ammo, multi-forms oh and unlike the Vajra, do have PPB, like say the Excalibur or Sturmvogel.

3. Alto was able to blast one to smithereens and Ozamu stabbity one to death.

So in the end, I cannot say they are super overpowered or even overpowered.

Seems the Birdman will come home soon to roost.

Still no sign of a [AiA I-Z] Macross Frontier 05.mp4 sub?

Well, you can't keep producing top notch animation when you have a budget for a longer series and one with less funding than a certain bigger named mecha series. Were this a OAV, then I'd be concerned but this is a TV series and I do expect a few drops in 2D animation on some lighter episodes. The CG sequences, for the most part, are consistent and the story didn't seem affected by it.

I agree. I still watch SDF: M, even if the anime is subpar. I watch it for the whole experience, not just visual eye candy.

mmm html, always hate the aftertaste of CSS.

Hmm..

Making a web site maybe?

I found the hipo-cows, farmer zents and the zentraedi shopping mall a bit silly. Don't you? I was like c'mon!

Not at all...

to heron,

I agree it's small, but like I said it could be a scout craft of some kind or a transport. It could be like the small RC-4E Rabbit, carrying only a few people and mostly used for reconnaissance. I'm not seeing weapons, so I'm just guessing at this point.

Hmm, true, true. I'm more leaning toward your idea that it is a scout-type vehicle. Well, whatever it is, we shall see soon enough.

The unknown fighter from the opening has an almost identical forward nose/fuselage silhouette to the VF-25 (with the exception of the quad canards), so I don't think the Galaxy Fleet fighter is the same. In fact, I'm not getting much of a "fighter" vibe from this ship. It feels a lot like a scout or transport ship, in the same vein as the transport that carried Sheryl to Frontier.

As you can see from the pic I posted, it has a fold booster of the same size to those in Macross plus and it's silhouette is very reminiscent of a fighter. The angles are also too short for a transport too.

e) One Eyed Willy!

You made me feel old! Shame on you!

But the fighter from the opening seemed to have a bit more squared off wing design then the one from the end of the episode.

Looks like a non-variable fighter to me...

Does the silhouette look familiar?

Nope. Not sure what it was.

Looks like a non-variable fighter to me...

Does the silhouette look familiar?

AH! but how many general anime's do you know of where the vibrating set cell phone is getting a pop singer off? HUH?! HUH?! ....................................................not many.

No, but I can think of several, actually quite a few, that have similar sexual scenes, ranging from Dragonball Z all the way to Pokemon. Serious, sex is sex and nothing about it is unnatural. Especially in a military-themed anime such as Macross.

Yeah, the big red lobster from episode 2. Yeah, make sense. But if the knife was supposed to destroy the Vajra, I don't understand how that thing can still work. NUNS found ito repair it ? Autoregeneration system ?

Red lobster.

Dude, that clearly was a Bacta Tank...

yeah, i bet she has a HUGE fan base

Oh she's got HUGE alright, I just don;t think it is her fan base..

Being someone who watches alot of anime, i would have to sadly say that Frontier's consistency is dropping with each new episode. You'll never see these kind of quality drops in most sci fi anime like Code Geass, Gundam 00, Planet ES, etc. Its usually the crappy girlgame adaptations that are prone to these quality drop horrors. But oh well, lets just hope they keep the animation and art at a tolerable level....i'm still tolerating it and i've seen worse quality drops.

If I can still stand to watch SDF:M and M7, then I can tolerate it till the end.

I noticed something... The name of the fleet where Ranka was rescued by Ozma 11 years ago was "the 117th Large Scale RESEARCH Fleet". Could this mean that some kind of experiments took place on it? Could it be that... Ranka really... is a... human/zentradi/Vajra hybrid?

I know it sounds crazy, hehe... In fact, I hope this is not her real origin, since it destroys my previous series-connecting theory, hah...

It is a research fleet...It is possible that they expanded upon Dr. Hasford's and Aries Turner's research...

Too early to decide on a favorite character. Need to see more.

I'm liking them all so far.

Graham

Agree with the above but I have to say the VF-25~

By far the best episode yet! Can't wait for the sub!

Even if they dont release domestically you can still import them and play them on the PS3 with no converter needed.

O RLY?

Until someone shows me definite proof otherwise, I will assume that SK has made Sheryl Nome a relative of Sara and Mao. I also will think that with Edgar and Claudia La Salle. I mean why reuse names like that over unless you trying to make a connection?

It's been one hell of a great opening and I hope this show doesn't sabotage itself later on because so far it is one tight anime series.

Eagerly awaiting episode four.

Deculture!

Here, here! Man it was great to watch this subtitled!

I have to disagree with those who are disappointed over the action-liteness of this episode. I think we saw a much more involved story, like those we saw in the days of SDF:M. Over all I think the combination of action, drama, comedy and music really set the bar high on this episode. Looking forward to the next one and the sub.

Great Mechanics.DX 4 Pg 092 (VF Image Source)

X-29 - YF-19

In addition, the article states the following:

Translated roughly as "After the YF-19 was designed, the real (life) Sukhoi Su-47 appeared; which is quite surprising."

Damn, I never knew that, lol. I also forgot all about the X-29..

A feel sorry for the modern day fighter pilot who will be the first to experience the effects of an Itano Circus.

Anyways,...just a thought when Alto's Gun Pod ran out of ammo why didn't he reload? Would this suggest that the VF-25 uses the old school VF-1-like gun pod that needs to be reloaded at a F.O.B. and not the new one's like the VF-19's GU-15, which uses clips of ammo and can be reloaded by the VF itself?

Speaking of missiles, I've read somewhere here in MW something about the VF-25 being "thin" compared to previous VFs. Am I to assume that the VF-25 has no internal missile bays like the VF-19 & VF-22 then?

ALSO...

Just had a thought that if the technology in Macross mirrors some of the advances in the real world wouldn't it be a safe bet to say that in MF's 2059 timeline the roles of the various fighters that appeared since Macross Plus are like:

F-15 & F-14 = VF-19 & VF-22 | Since they are expensive to produce and maintain, only a small number of them are in service, thus leading presumably to development of the VF-25. (I'm taking a wild guess on this one.)

F-18 Super Hornet; F/A-18 Hornet & F-16 = VF-25 | Since they are multi-role/all-around fighters (thanks to the different packs it uses) and are (I'm assuming) inexpensive to produce and maintain. They also inherited technology (I'm assuming again) that are derived from the VF-19 & VF-22.

VF-17 = No idea what real world fighter it reflects.

The VF-19 and VF-22 (as well as the YF-19 and YF-22) are based on the USAF's Advanced Tactical Fighter (ATF) program YF-22 and Northrop YF-23. The YF-19 was also partially based off the Sukhoi Su-47.

The VF-25 has more in common with a Variable geometry fighter than an F-18/F-16...I would say it has DVI, Combat AI, AESA Radar and other 5th and greater generation type avionics.

VF-17/171's are based of the F-117 Nighthawk...

All I know is I like the Shoutu (sp?) editon more than the Gattai (sp?). It reads and flows much better.