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Damn, that's a good point but still, I can't do it bro. I GOT to watch it in one sitting. The impatience in me wouldn't be able to handle the weekly wait in between eps

I don't know about you, but I wouldn't have the patience to wait till Frontier ended. I would be more impatient, waiting for the series to finally end so I could enjoy it in one sitting, than I am now waiting for "next week's airing." The show is like crack for crack addicts...only it's Macross for Macross addicts. I dunno how you could deny yourself the pleasures of watching it right now.

Hell...I'm visiting my mother right now, for two weeks, and she only has dialup...so watching episodes 14 and 15 are out of the question...till I get back home that is...and it's driving me bonkers.

One way or another, you're going to be waiting regardless. I'd just rather wait a week each time rather than (at least) 6+ months.

If this game is as good as everyone (including myself) hopes it is...then I'll definitely be buying it and a PSP as soon as this game comes out. My only hope is that they include "Dogfighter" and track 42 off Disc 3 (the complete collection). Those two songs would be the icing on the cake for me.

Online Multiplayer (24 is a good number for squads and more likely to happen)

Co-op Campaign of the Story Mode online and Split screen or a seperate co-op campaign (make it fit into the cnnon material)

All the Valkyries from every series (yes even macross II)

Player Controlled Zentraedi Mecha

Player Controlled Destroids

All Mecha and Ships to Scale

100 km map sizes

Cockpit view with working gauges

Replay Mode (like Ace Combat 6) allow for screen capture to export to external source (ie Metal gear Solid 4)

Hangar to purchase Valkyries and view them in (like Ace Combat series)

Realistic weapon loads (like over G fighter ammo is limited unless on easy mode)

Landing and rearming and changing craft

Player Controlled Capital ships or weapon emplacements for multiplayer or as part of campaign

Campaign from multiple view and with alternative routes

Large amount of missions

Custom schemes or atleast choose from a color palate

Custom squad emblem

Multiplayer stats page and tracking

Sequences where you explore the ship or base RPG style between missions for story info and to buy secret valkyries or items and collectables at the item store or hanger

Animated or CG cutscenes

Free mission mode with endless enemies

City fight stages

Meatl Gear Solid 4 grade graphics

Multiple missile types based on the series material

non cannon what if mode

TV series character cameos

Mission select once the game is cleared

Use your own music ingame (like Xbox)

Built in encyclopedia and reference database

Photo Mode to pose valkyrie or pilots (or idols) Yeah I know Metal Gear 4 on the brains lately

That's pretty much everything I've ever wanted in a Macross game. Though I'd want up to 32 players at a time, 1000km maps. Lets not forget the ability to change modes at will and not be forced into certain modes at certain times.

Im writing this from home. I havent been able to go to MW for sometime now at work. My work usses a web blocker that blocks game, entertainment, adult, ect. I can get to anime punch, but not here. It may be asking a lot, but can you guys change the class of the site?

Missing MW,

Pfunk

Try this next time.... http ://www.google.com/translate_c?langpair=zh%7Cen&u=http://www.MacrossWorld.com/ See if that helps!

those shots are just beautiful. this is just so torturing me.

man, if only those blu-rays have been confirmed with english subs i'd be on them in an instant

Meh, forget the subs I say! I've already pre-ordered the first and second volume! One could always add the subs later and burn them to another Blu-ray disc.

My perception is probably clouded by the fact that this is the last episode that I saw, but my vote went to Legend Of Zero.

First and foremost, I loved the fact that the story dealt with the events of Macross Zero. For me, this sort of cemented M. Zero into Macross continuity, and struck a nostalgic chord with me. Like someone mentioned on another thread-- the episode was like a love letter to the fans, and I dug it.

The episode also did a great job meshing the story with the music of the series. I'm a big fan of the lullaby that Ranka sings (I can't remember the title), and I loved the way it was used in the 'Bird Human' film. In fact, I imagine that I'd enjoy the Bird Human film more than I liked Macross Zero!

The character development of Ranka (and to a lesser extent, Sheryl and Alto) was great. For me, this episode marked the first time that I could view Ranka as a sympathetic character. It looks like the kid is finally coming into her own; the scene in which she decides to take control of her destiny was moving. And the understated tension between Alto and Sheryl was cool to watch. I don't think it will be long before the two of them admit to themselves how they feel about one another.

All in all, this episode was emotionally satisfying. I'm disappointed by the lack of mecha action, and the slapped-together animation quality during the fight with the pet pokemon, but the nostalgia factor, music, and character development more than made up for it.

I agree with you in that episode 10 was a great episode. I dunno if it's my fav. though. I'm having a hard time deciding. :X I too am a big fan of "Aimo". I like "Aimo" better than I do "Aimo ~ Tori no Hito" though.

Well, I finally pulled the trigger. I now have a Panasonic TC-32LZ800 on the way. Here's hoping!

Edit:

Well my TC-32LZ800 arrived today! Zero dead/stuck pixels! There's no buzzing coming from the TV either. (It's been reported that there may be some buzzing)

Regarding the sound coming from the speakers. The speakers aren't the greatest, but they aren't bad either. I can hear conversations just fine at 1/4 the max. volume.

The blacks are very impressive in my opinion and look ink black.

Out of the box the colors look fantastic and the skin tones look realistic/life-like. I cannot wait to further calibrate it!

My only problems with the set thus far are as follows. There does seem to be a little CCFL bleed at the bottom right corner of the screen...but it's hard to notice. Then there's the standard definition. As expected on any HDTV...SD looks terrible in comparison to HD.

Other than that though, I'm very happy with the set.

Think I should send the set and get that little bleed taken care of? It's only noticeable when the screen is black in that area...and even then it's hard to notice it some of the time.

Edit #2: The CCFL bleed at the bottom right corner has disappeared.

Of course you can! That's what this place is for, of course.

But, pretty much, it all comes down to two points:

1) Macross II is a thinly veiled rehash of DYRL with substandard characters and boring plot. But man, that VF-2 looks great!

2) Macross 7...Valks with faces, too much Fire Bomber, space monsters, goofiness..BLEH!

Submitted for your approval...we try to come up with NEW reasons for disliking each series, something which Macrossworld has never seen before.

Examples:

For Macross II:

a) Macross II was way too long.

b) Wendy Ryder was such an interesting character, yet they barely used her.

c) Why didn't the destroy the Macross's bridge? I want to see the WHOLE THING go up in flames!

d) The BGM sounds too much like Evangelion. (True, BTW... )

e) WTF??? Flying, transforming robots? Music? A F^%$IN' LOVE TRIANGLE??? This isn't what I watch Macross for!

For Macross 7:

a) An episode without Planet Dance is an episode wasted.

b) Basara is tough, rugged, and manly to the point that the whole story becomes unbelievable.

c) TOO MUCH MAX AND MILLIA! Instead of having so much about them, the series should've had more scenes of Michael's comedic bumbling.

d) The Protodeviln are too scary. I have to hide behind the sofa during their scenes!

e) A gaint robot show told from the persepctive of a rock band? *yawn* That's a TOTAL rip-off of Gundam 0083!

Just because we are opinionated doesn't mean we have to be boring about it! C'mon! Strut yer stuff!

Haha, nicely put. As for the music in Macross II sounding too much like Evangelion.... I guess it doesn't help that Shiro Sagisu composed music for both animes. Man I love his work though! He must be a beautiful person inside to be able to create the music that he does. "Going Home" from Bleach, "Expansion of Blockade" from Evangelion, "Scene #3" from Casshern the live action movie, "Futari" and "Kizuna" from Macross II. I could go on and on but I digress. Thanks for the humor.

Seconded.

Can't a guy throw his opinion out there? There are 446 'opinionated' posts in this thread...what's one more? Moreover, no one is forcing anyone to read this thread so....

I'm sorry to beat a dead horse, but I would like throw my opinion out there. So bear with me please. I'm going to have to vote for Macross 7. I'm not voting for 7 because of my love for II, but because I cannot get past something in 7. That something would be Fire Bomber flying their valkyries and holding a 'concert' in the heat of (numerous) battle(s). Sure, II uses a lot of the same plot devices found in DYRL? (all the while having a completely DIFFERENT story)...but it isn't as absurd as Fire Bomber in valkyries. I'm sure if it weren't for Fire Bomber, in valkyries, I would be able to get past the first 15 episodes.

Well, thus far I've been VERY impressed with Macross Frontier. There hasn't been a single episode I haven't liked. I'm sure Frontier will go down as one of the best in the Macross series. As someone else said earlier, that kiddie vibe Ranka was given seems to have dissipated. With Macross TV I was rooting for Misa, but in Frontier I can't decide to who to root for.... Maybe they could share Alto....? I was hoping they would have delved into how and why Zero plays a roll in Frontier but oh well. Maybe in the upcoming episodes they will do just that! Also, in what episode do they talk about the V-type virus again?

I'm sticking with the theory that we won't see the Kite at all in Frontier. Alot of rumors going around that they want to market this internationally.

Meh, because of Blu-Ray I'm not too worried about domestic releases. Call me selfish, but I'd actually prefer it if they used the Kite. It won't stop me from importing!

Should I watch macross zero before I watch this episode?

You mean you haven't yet?! What?! I wish 5pm would roll around here already, I want to watch episode 10!!!

I got to play it for only 15 mins last night but from what I've played I REALLY enjoyed. I know I'll be playing this a lot. As Mr. Hingtgen pointed out, the game feels faster and is a bit easier (with the health regeneration). Also, "Path of the Acolyte" is their 'easy' and "Path of the Warrior" is their 'normal.' I started on normal and the game is tough, but so much fun!

Well, that blows. I hope everything works out for Tomonobu Itagaki.

Speaking of Ninja Gaiden II, has anyone played it yet? What are your guys' thoughts and opinions on it? I'm about to pick up my copy of the game today and am anxious to play it.

You do realize that you could just as easily interpret this as being an effort to show off that Alto is so great that he can keep up with much better technology but the VF-27 is so great that even our super hero Alto needs help beating it?

That is EXACTLY how I interpret it. Just like with Plus, Guld had the more advanced plane but Isamu had the better skills.

I think its a more realistic implementation of a gimmick, which is why I think gubaba's persistent comments just strike me as illogical fanboyism. There is no way one could argue that an theoretical Omni directional implementation wouldn't take alot of energy than a PPB implementation. Why would you want to expend energy to cover a whole ship when you would normally only face a threat from one facing. Its a waste of energy, which could be better used for other purposes like weapons.They already have a omnidirectional field, and yet they still use PPB 50 years later. And even if they made a better type of shield its still the same question; why would you spread its energy over a wide area rather than focus it on the axis where you face the greatest likelihood of damage? No matter how you cut it, it just makes no sense to have a omni directional barrier.

Who's to say that one wouldn't be attacked from all sides? Why does it have to be from one side only? I'm with Gubaba on this in that I don't see how they couldn't have improved upon the Omni-Directional Barrier to make it more practical. Maybe rather than it exploding after it overloads it just dissipates or shuts down.... I could see the Barrier being used on the colony ships. Anyway, I still have some catching up to do in this thread!

Edit: I'm awaiting to be flamed at any moment now....

I'm looking to buy the Gold Book.

I think it's pretty cool that it's catching on. I'm sure some of them are wondering what anime it came from and so on and so forth.... The more that see Macross the better I say!

The only negative I know about the ADV version is the lJapanese audio track which according to some is not as crisp as the AnimEigo release (likely due to the fact that the DVD has 2 audio tracks or it could simply be individual setup issues).

From my understanding, ADV couldn't get the (remastered?) audio from AnimEigo for whatever reason.

Apparently episode 02 did pretty good in the ratings (thx to westlo for the link).

http://p2.chbox.jp/read.php?url=http://ex2...85941/145n-149n

*2.7% (*1.1%) 04/12 (Sat) *2:10am-*2:40am TBS Macross FRONTIER

Are those numbers really considered good? :/ Just throwing it out there...worst case scenario...if the show were to flop over in Japan...I would hope that they would release the rest straight to disc...! Two episodes in and I can't wait for the rest!

Ozma says Amedama, or candy in Japanese (which makes sense considering what Luca responds with). Ranka says sashiire or "provisons/supplies" (for someone working or doing a task) which in the context of her sentence means something from the restaurant. Since she didn't specify what she would bring, "something" is the most appropriate word. If anything, I probably should've said "I'll bring you something to eat later"

Shouta, I hope I didn't come across as knocking your work. If I did I apologize...I'm very appreciative of the work you guys do. All I was trying to get at is the weight of video quality vs accurate subs. From my understanding there's always going to be something lost in a translation no matter who's translating.... After reading your post on Animesuki though, I can see how the little things translated can make a difference. I just wish you guys would use a higher resolution! But anyway, I digress.

This is my personal opinion but if i wanted HD i would go buy the DVDs so i'm satisfied with low quality fansubs for "preview" purposes. But then again this is Macross and it may not be released stateside. Oh and also my pc can't play HD files...and smaller files are always welcome. I don't have a wide-a** screen so it makes no difference to me.

Well, I've already pre-ordered the first two volumes on Blu-Ray, but I still want the higher video quality while I'm waiting. I can understand where you're coming from though. Have you thought about upgrading your PC?

I'm one of the very few who loves Macross II. A lot of people will claim that Macross II is a rehash of DYRL? I don't believe that to be the case at all. The story in II is completely different from the one in DYRL? The lore and plot devices are the only things DRYL? and II share and-or have in common. The music is what I love most about II, followed by the story. There are a lot of scenes in II that made me a fan...especially with the music playing during these scenes. The battles are fought on a bigger scale too...another thing I like about II. The VF-2SS is no VF-1S...but it's still a good design in my opinion; I like the other mecha as well. I just wish they could have expanded more on II.

(Edited for grammar.)

How much difference in resolution are we talking here? They all look nice to me.

Heh, 1280x720 vs 768x432. The way I figure it all...there's always going to be something missed in a translation...there's no getting around it. So, if I can't get a prefect translation...why not try for the best video quality instead?

Anyway, is all this talk about Ranka being Protoculture/Vajra all speculation or is this all learned in chapter 4 of the manga? I would read up on chapter four...but I don't want anything spoiled...and would rather save it for the anime.

As Shouta has noted, the AiA-IZ's encoder likes to alternate the openings and endings with English and romanji.

I prefer AiA-IZ's. I prefer accuracy over speed, and it reads a bit better than Gattai.

Just how much more accurate is it compared to Gattai's though? In AiA & I-Z's, Ozma says he'll give Luca some candy...while in Gattai's he'll give Luca some "agedama." Later on we see Ranka saying she'll get Ozma some "sashirei" (Gattai) rather than "something" (AiA & I-Z).

Accurate subs aside...Gattai uses a higher resolution. Since I'm not a wiz at Japanese...I'll take video quality with a slightly less accurate sub over a lower resolution but more accurate sub...any day. ...But I digress.