Vic Mancini

The SV-51 is just an amazing design. Possibly Kawamori's most interesting Valk. I'm blown away by these pics. Yamato nailed it perfectly. It still looks like it could be a potential QC nightmare, but the look is flawless.

Anyone know if the air brake / heat shield / turbo fan cover piece can flip up in F mode? The way the fans position in F mode with the heat shield and the lower vents, and then all re-position in B mode to double as a pseudo-backpack thruster is just genius. it would be a shame if the airbrake couldn't flip up to reveal the fans in F mode.

And I'm still a little bit peeved about the non-gold canopy, but whatever. It's a small gripe on an otherwise near flawless interpretation of the 51.

the FP release of the yf-22 fixed the under-carriage issue of the first release fairly well.

Hey you're right, that is a lot better. I retract my flying sandwich statment.

I still think it could be better though.

This puppy needs to be flat and sleek with a smooth undercarriage.

the 21 is still a bad-ass looking plane.

Bah. I disagree.

The 1/72 looks like a flying sandwich of legs and arms from any angle that isn't top down.

I hope the 1/60 is a massive improvement over the 1/72, but it's going to be a challenge for Yamato to make something as line art accurate as their previous valks. The YF-21 uses a lot of anime magic to cram those giant legs into the leg bay and to make those arms magically fold into the side walls or wherever they go.

How they're going to fit everything into a profile this thin is going to be interesting.

...Although the D-Stance did a fairly decent job.

Those final two Gerwalk mode pics are just beautiful.

Can we get some close ups of Yang, (co-pilot), and how he fits in the cockpit?

Can someone please tell me if i unscew the arms (problem area) will

this negate/reduce the possibility of the crackage people have had with previous

release VF-0s?? I loosened mine after one transformation cycle, but i gotta know is this a sure fire method?

How is anyone supposed to answer that? Nobody knows what method will be a 100% sure fix. If you're worried about your shoulders, (which you seem to be), and you think loosening screws will help, then go for it and hope for the best. Nobody can guarantee anything at this point. The severity of the problem hasn't even been accurately assesed, and even if it was, nobody has had enough time to properly test any of the solutions to see if they will withstand the test of time.

Ask this question again in about a year.

Another thing I'd like them to do is mold the canopy in transparent golden orange plastic to mimic what we see in the animation... or include the "tinted" canopy to allow the buyer to choose which to use, like they did with the extra canards on the YF-19.

I totally agree. A gold canopy would enhance the overall look of F and G mode so much. I really hope they do it, but I've got a feeling they won't. Maybe on the Nora release though.

I think it is much to early to set our opinions on what the mecha and character designs are going to look like in stone. There is still a lot of development to come and from the early sketches this is pretty obvious. I look forward to a new show coming out finally, and hope to see more pics and sketches of the designs as they develope before I form an opinion of them. As for the story line about an academy or some such thing, I hope the entire series is not centered around a group of half trained wannabes. The characters would need to develope and graduate from training in order to step into the forefront of a good battle senario, and what is Macross without some sort of conflict envolving the mecha? There is going to be combat of some kind, and I would expect that newbies would not be sent to the front lines unless the fully trained pilots had all already been killed in action. Sure there may be a rising star or two at the academy, but if you throw a kid in the deep end too soon too many times they are going to start sinking sooner or later without skilled help.

Who says you can't have conflict involving mecha at a training academy? Isamu and Guld weren't exactly on the front lines either. There isn't a whole lot of difference between a training academy and a test pilot/prototype competition.

IF it is about a flight academy, (and that's a big assumption given the small amount of info we have to go on), it could be a terrific foundation for mecha combat. Top Gun was about a flight academy too. I'm not saying that was a good movie, but there was plenty of drama and suspense in the dogfighting scenes even if most of those scenes were training and not actual life and death combat.

I actually kind of hope the new series IS about a valkyrie flight academy.

That would be pretty interesting IMO. ...Lots of potential in a story like that.

I always thought of Hikaru's VF-1J as the 'signature' valk from the series, since its the one shown in the bumpers. But yeah, Roy's VF-1S is pretty iconic as well and a personal favorite

Since Roy's valk is Hikaru's valk for over half the series, I'd say it's the more iconic of the two despite the 1J being featured in bumpers. All Hikaru ever did in his 1J was get shot down anyway.

I do personally like the 1J head better than the 1S, though.

I have a question for anyone that own the stand alone Ghost. Is the Ghost very light in weight? The reason I'm asking is that I just can't imagine the VF-0A standing up straight without something to support it with all the added weight of the Ghost on its back.

It sounds like it would slip off easily when standing in B mode, too.

That's too bad.

Waiting for a different color scheme, and not interested in a foldildo.

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What he said.

I've never liked the fold booster or even the FPs for the 19, so that doesn't interest me. All I'm interested in is alt color schemes. Not a fan of the Super Nova ones...I want to see some non-cannon, possibly low vis types.

I'm actually hoping for a cannon fodder, myself.

In the end, when you get sub-par items in return you have no one else to blame for your pain because it is YOU (the end collectors) that perversed the privilege to own these things.

Except it's not a sub-par item. Even with mistakes, it's extraordinary. Nobody else has ever made a YF-19 even close to this good. That's why it's well worth the money to so many macross collectors. There are a lot of people on this forum trying to explain that to you and you just don't get it.

Some people have different priorities and expectations for things. Some people value things more than others. Just because you feel stupid for owning flawed Yamato products does not mean everyone feels the same, and it does not make everyone stupid.

Meeting with Yamato tonight, so lets see if they bring me any goodies to play with

Graham

Gold canopy?

It looks like it's going to be clear and it's probably too late to change now.

Oh well...not a deal breaker by any means since it looks okay clear, but I think a gold canopy would be such a sweet finishing touch on those beautiful F and G modes.

Even if you have no other toys, just look at good ANYTHING out there that's well-made.

Build quality is obviously a higher priority for you than it is for me. For me, aesthetics and design are top priority, and build quality is second. (Maybe that's because I'm not American?) I look at "good anything" out there that's well designed and the 1/60 19 is pretty remarkable in my eyes. The innovations that Yamato made to overcome the design obstacles they had in front of them amaze me.

I think you need assess how you really feel about your 1/60 YF19, because you were at first hoping for better QC, bothered by the QC and what not, then you said fans are generally quite happy with the current '19 - that's quite a contradiction there.

Apparently I contradict myself a lot on this forum, so you should probably get used to it.

Let me try to explain. The crooked gunpod and tight fuselage bother me about 3%. The non-locking torso in B&G mode bothers me another 5%. The look, build, and design of the rest of the 1/60 satisfy me about 92%. That is how I am genarally happy. I guess I shouldn't speak for anyone else, but I suspect others feel similar to me judging by the comments I've read on this forum. The 1/60 YF-19 is about 92% of what I've been dreaming about since I first saw Macross Plus. It made every other rendition of the YF-19 that I used to think was cool look not cool. Even a one-of-a-kind custom Hasegawa.

Is the 1/60 unnecessarily fragile? ...maybe, maybe not. I don't really know. All I know is that if the trade-off for durability is looking like the 1/72, I'd rather own something delicate and finical. So please don't call me weak and slow minded for not having the same criteria and priorities as you.

And for the love of God, please relax.

The last thing I want to be is a source of stress for you.

All I care about is the battriod mode. Look here:- 1/72 YF19 unmodded. Drifand may take good photos, but that's a stock '19.

That's the only respectable mode of the 1/72 and it still looks horrible compared to the 1/60, IMHO.

You may only care about battroid, but I'm pretty sure most consumers care about the other two modes. And the differences between the 1/72 F&G and the 1/60 F&G are night and day. Many forum members, (myself included), consider the 1/60 to be the most accurate representation of the 19 out there. The 1/72 has its charm but it's a joke compared to the 1/60 especially in F&G. The Bandai VF-19s don't compare either, nor does the SHE or Liquid Stone. Granted the 1/60 has a crooked gunpod and QC issues, (and believe me those do bother me), but nothing compares to it in terms of accurately representing the YF-19. It surpasses even the custom variable Hasegawas that everyone drooled over for 5 years since we first saw them in Model Graphix June 2002.

if anything, Yamato should be ashamed that their 1/60's '19 is being compared to its LESSER incarnation, instead of other better toys.

That was exactly the point I was trying to make earlier. The disconnect we're having is that you want to compare it to other toys because you're obviously a collector with broad tastes. And yes, other non Macross/Yamato toys might be less expensive and have better QC and durability, (I wouldn't know), but until someone makes a better YF-19 it really is "apples and oranges" for Macross-specific collectors like myself, as tired as you think that argument may be.

I'm not trying to "tell you off", I'm just trying to explain how it is that a lot of us are in fact extremely satisfied with the Yamato 1/60 YF-19, and probably shouldn't be associated with a "slow-minded" connotation for it.

i have no issue with the complaints u make, its that u bring them up in every thread and ALL THE TIME. No matter whats being discussed, even if it was a thread about how much u liked Yamato, u would spin it into how crap they are and anyone who continues to buy from em must be stupid or slow. i think the point is; if u hate em enough to do nothing EXCEPT complain, then just stop buying and let those of us who are still enjoying the toys enjoy em!

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Quoted for truth.

I'm actually surprised that BOB hasn't been banned for the way he talks to everyone in here.

Suit yourself.

What's lame is the fact that the damn things are not made and bundled together in the first place. If Bandai gives us a SOC Gunbuster alone then sells it's other accessories, stand and gantry towers months later for the price of a bomb, they'll get hell.

So then stick to Bandai and SOC Gunbuster products.

The thing is, you obviously collect a lot of stuff, so it's different for you. A lot of us, (myself included), only care about Macross products, and so far no other company has made anything that compares to the 1/60 YF-19. So what's the alternative? Should everyone not buy it as a form of protest and just not have a YF-19?

I wish the QC was better too, but it's better than nothing. Far better.

It sounds like most people who needed to have that YF-19 are pleased with their purchase.

Until another company comes along and starts designing better Valks it's Yamato or nothing. That's just the way it is.

It's looking good.

Still no gold canopy, though.

It's all a matter of taste. I am no fan of the new Battlestar Galactica. The music is understated and mind-numbing. The themesong has nothing of the beauty of the original and the theme and all the battle music sounds more like somebody is in a Dragonboat race (or running from a tiger in the jungle in an episode of Tarzan) than a space epic.

New Battlestar Music = BLEECH: Insipid, underwhelming, and utterly disappointing...so much so that I cannot stand to hear. In fact, it pretty much ruins the New Battlestar for me.

I also find that the original Macross (aside from a few solid themes) is typical of anime music especially of the period for low-budget TV shows. Uninteresting and uninspired generic orchestrated music that puts you to sleep...although it is lightyears ahead of the mind-numbing stuff in Gundam Z/ZZ that strips that series of any and all vitality and emotion. I'm a person who needs dynamic melodies and a lot of variety in instrumentation and sound. I am the type that feels the Blade Runner soundtrack was one of the best ever composed, but synth is only one direction you can take. Having no melody whatsoever, or having no inspiring themes, no frightening overtures, no leitmotiv entirely is thoroughly depressing.

Wow, I'm shocked by this.

Although taste is personal and you're entitled to not like it, I think using words like "insipid", "mind-numbing", and saying there are no themes/motifs, or that there is a lack of varied instrumentation, is unfair. It's a quality soundtrack that has earned a lot of critical praise, and is more appropriate to the material in many ways than the original music.

I'd almost suggest downloading the soundtrack, [especially season 2], and listening to it away from a BSG context, just so you're listening to it objectively and not comparing it to the old music. But it sounds like your mind is more than made up, which is why I say almost.

On a side note, it's interesting, and kind of confusing to me, that you mention Blade Runner as one of your fav soundtracks especially considering your criticisms of the new BSG music. Blade Runner a great soundtrack and I listen to it often, but I consider it a lot more ambient than melodic. It's actually one of the least melodic/thematic soundtracks I can think of, and a lot less thematic than the new BSG music, IMO.

You entreated me to strip the "starving" part of the artist from my mind, as though it was a mistaken statement originally made by you. This was not the case. I was making a point about Basara being the "epitome of a starving artist" and you were rebutting it. Why would I abandon a point I was making?

You still aren't getting it. In fact, you're actually more confused than I originally thought.

I don't know how to explain myself any more clearly than I already have.

Well I guess the issue is, that I keep bringing you back to those original statements trying to assertain when he went from an artist who owed no one anything to a prophet????

I've already answered this many times.

In that we disagree.

The Basara character was inspired by the legend of Minmay from SW1 and determined within himself to do what she did. He didn't know how he was going to do it, but he was hell bent to accomplish his goal, which is why he "demanded" to be heard rather than allowed his music to "infect" the enemy forces as was the case with Minmay.

This is exactly why he is not the epitome of being a [starving or not] artist. I feel like I've said this a hundred times, but if Basara was the epitome of an artist archetype, he wouldn't be concerned with Minmay-style culture warfare or spiritial enlightenment. He'd be writing songs for the sake of making good music. Basara's goal from the very beginning was to do more with his music than to simply make art.

I'd love to debate the issues, so long as what is attributed to me is accurately recounted, otherwise I am forced to waste time establishing my positions over and over on the same topics.

If you're implying that I've inaccurately recounted what I'm attributing to you, then I have to say that's the pot calling the kettle black. If that was just a general statement about others you've debated with in the past, then never mind.

I can understand that, however without you right in front of me I am unable to go on anything but your words and the word choices you have made.

The problem is you're choosing to discount what I'm saying now in favor of words you think I said five or six posts ago. There has to be a reason why you're disregarding my most recent elaborations. It can't be that you're simply skimming over my posts too quickly. There's intent there. You seem to prefer holding me to something you see a possibility of fault in rather than listening to an explanation. This is probably why you're so confused about what I'm saying. I'm fine with people disagreeing with me if I'm understood, but the problem is you don't seem to want to understand me before you rebut.

No, just a bit of frustration.

No need to get worked up.

Just relax and this will be a much less frustrating experience.

The issue was that my response was in direct response to a comment as written. A second analogy was introduced and presented as the premise to discount my previous comment.

Actually if you want to split hairs, I never said anything about protesters entering your car against your will. My analogy was simply protesters outside of a government building, as in in a public space where thier signs could not be ignored by the employees inside. You were the one who added the part about the protesters trespassing into your car. So you were actually the first one to "introduce a new premise to discount my previous comment", and your response was never directed to a "comment as written."

...which is fine by me, I never wanted to bicker about it who said what/when. I don't mind that you made your own analogy because it helped me to understand more specifically what you have a problem with in regards to Basara's actions...it's clearly the trespassing aspect for you, [speaker pods], more than it is the actual music itself, and I understand that now. Once I learned this, I brought us back on track by putting forth a new analogy that resembles the to the original events of Mac 7 more accurately.

My friend I was the one who introduced the idea of the "starving artist", you were arguing against that point.

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I am totally confused by this statement.

Did I indicate somewhere that you weren't the one who introduced that idea?

I was, and still am, arguing against it. But for some reason I keep failing to make you understand that I'm arguing against the artist part and not arguing against the starving part.

Yes and my point was that you changed your position on that and wouldn't acknowledge it.

Initially you held the position that he was an artist dedicated to the purity of his musical vision and answerable to now one, but himself, then he became a messiah or prophet.

I have not changed my position. I have only referred to Basara as an "artist" once that I can see in all the many posts I've made in this thread, and I've made many many many more statements indicating that Basara is obviously more than an artist because his music has always been about doing something bigger than to simply write songs.

In fact, my very first post in this thread in response to Valkyrie Addict's comment about Basara being flawed because he doesn't change, was made because of how closely Basara resembles a spiritual revolutionary type of figure, and that change would be wrong for that type of character.

"The core of Basara's character is his unwavering conviction and commitment to what he believes in. He believes he can stop wars and even literally move mountains with his music." -Vic Mancini

I've been [unsuccesfully] trying to explain from the very start that Basara's music was always about doing something bigger than making art, and that Basara's conviction to his beliefs is an essential part of his character and that, IMO, if he were to change it would undermine the strength and purity of his spiritial vision.

I will admit that Basara is an artist in many ways, that is obvious. I don't think I ever said he "wasn't an artist - period". What I said was that he wasn't written as an artist archetype so much as he was written as prophet/messiah archetype. His goal was not to write good songs for the sake of exploring new artistic/musical territory. His goal was always to do bigger spiritial things with his music. That's one of the things that makes his character closer to a spiritual revolutionary/leader than an artist.

And you can't be the epitome of the starving artist notion if you're written more like a prophet/spiritual leader archetype than an artist archetype. Understand?

We disagree, that is perfectly fine. It is not the end of the world, it happens all the time....

I have no problem with people disagreeing with me, (see my interactions with Sketchley and NeoverseOmega).

What I have a problem with is being misunderstood and having my words twisted around. I have a problem with you saying things like, "you changed your position," when I really didn't. And I have a problem with you focusing more on who created what analogy when instead of debating the topic.

You keep telling me that my position is one thing when it is actually something else. I keep trying to explain myself more clearly for you to understand, but it doesn't seem to be getting through. It feels like you're more focused on manufacturing some kind of contradiction instead of actually trying to understand where I'm coming from.

I will admit that I am not the greatest writer. I'm not always as clear as I can be and I may use words from time to time that might lead someone to believe that my position is different from what it actually is. But when we get to those crossroads and I try to clarify for you what my stance is and explain to you what I originally meant and why it came across a certain way, you need to listen to me instead of holding me to some not-so-ideal wording choice that I made in a previous post. This isn't a competition in who can poke the most holes in the other person's logic, (at least it's not for me.) If you want to have a discussion with me you need to be more interested in knowing what my opinions actually are than what specific words I use. And then you need to choose to agree/disagree without the hostility.

Quotes three and four do work to some degree (well, except that his role is expected, I don't think Basara himself is an "expected" deliverer - again, no prophesy per se).

I don't know, I still can't help but disagree with this.

The only reason it's not expected is because nobody knows about Anima Spiritia except for the Protodeviln. Hypothetically, if everyone knew what Anima Spiritia was, and that Anima Spiritia defeated the PD in the first place, and that Basara was the last known Anima Spiritia, then Basara would most definitely be expected to deliver. It was only the circumstances of history being lost that conflicted with everyone's expectations for Basara, not his lack of significance as a savior.

Secondly, most people came around before the end of the series and recognized Basara as their only hope against the Protodeviln. Eventually they believed in Basara and had faith that he could save the universe. Doesn't that qualify him as an expected deliverer? If not, he was the closest thing they had to one.

Unfortunately, as much as I would like to just cling to what we see in a dictionary, words have effects on people. Heh, it's like if I try to explain to a girl that technically a b*!$h is just a female dog - and most dogs are loyal, cute and cuddly, I'd probably still go home with a black eye!

I see what you're saying. Fair enough.

There is no doubt that the symbolism is there, but I do kind of doubt that the writers intended it to mean what the term Messiah means to many people.

I totally agree because I don't think the writers intended to define anything one way or the other.

I think that they intended to make the question itself a possibility without committing to any one direction. The conditions are in place so that one could validly ponder Basara's divinity and not be out of line, [just like we're doing now].

Agreed.

Disagree.

Whether or not Basara clinically dies, I think the symbol is still present and intended. The episode is titled "The Death of Basara" after all. It would not be named that if Basara's catatonic state was not meant to be viewed with a certain degree of extra significance, and I really don't believe it would be named that simply to lead on viewers who have yet to watch the episode.

It's just one of the many spiritual parallels in Mac 7 that can't be ignored, IMO. I'm not saying he's holy or divine by the definition of the term, [that's never been my position], but there is most certainly a vague reference there. He's meant to seem divine from certain perspectives.

I don't think anything in M7 is intended to be truly supernatural (supernatural implies outside of nature - even the crazy lights and beams from Basara wouldn't have "Chiba points" or anything else measurable if in the M7 universe it wasn't just another level of physics).

Agreed. It's all partially rationalized supernatural physics, but not so rationalized that it's completely explained by natural physics either. And that's usually what good sci-fi/spiritual stories are made of...until they go to far with it. Midichloreans for example. Usually it makes you question if there's really something going on behind the scenes or if it all just seems mystic because it's not fully understood.

Again, I think these allusions are used to help us identify Basara as a holy man, not to equate him with a Messiah.

Messiah doesn't necessarily mean God/Christ as some of you seem to think. I've always defined the word as nothing more than a [very special] savior or liberator of slaves. Basara was most definitely a messiah by that definition. Even though Mylene was also Anima Spiritia, I think Basara was the only known person in the Galaxy with a strong enough gift to liberate the Varuata slaves, and to put a preemptive halt to the enslavement of the Mac 7 fleet, and who knows who else? ...Eventually we might all be part of the spiritia farm, right?

Here's more definitions I found:

Mes·si·ah

1. the promised and expected deliverer of the Jewish people.

2. Jesus Christ, regarded by Christians as fulfilling this promise and expectation. John 4:25, 26.

3. (usually lowercase) any expected deliverer.

4. (usually lowercase) a zealous leader of some cause or project.

5. (italics) an oratorio (1742) by George Frideric Handel.

www.dictionary.com

Basara definitely fits 3 and 4 from the above, and number 3 from the following:

Mes·si·ah

1. also Mes·si·as (mĭ-sī'əs) The anticipated savior of the Jews.

2. also Messias Christianity Jesus.

3. messiah One who is anticipated as, regarded as, or professes to be a savior or liberator.

Messiah has too many enormous connotations - in retrospect perhaps my choice of prophet in some of the earlier posts might have been off too. He doesn't know the future, he doesn't have some grand pre-destiny.

I think messiah is a much more fitting label than prophet, actually. Like you just said, Basara never actually prophesizes anything. He only has a vague feeling and faith that his music can be more than just music which probably doesn't count. I just happen to think he was written much like a prohpet archetype, especially with all the symbolism, allusions, and parallels to various spiritual icons.

There is spiritual symbolism in M7, enough of it that I think it's hard to sidestep.

Most definitely agree.

Hmmm...

I'm sensing some hostility on your part. I'm just trying to have a civilized debate. I'm not a threat to you.

Again, read the post. There was no equating the actual singing with rape, but the forcing of it upon an unwilling person(s) by violent means (as in shooting a speaker pod into another spacecraft), which is what rape is ultimately, the forcable trespass of one person on to another against their will.

Actually, I think you need to read my post again.

I think you missed where I was trying to acknowlede what you're talking about:

"Once I clarified that your beef had little to do with the actual music/signage, and more to do with the trespassing aspect, (intrusion into your vehicle)" -Vic Mancini

Then you've just contradicted yourself by admiting you changed the analogy, where previously you claimed it was the same. You may wish to slow down and read the whole posts before.

Where did I claim it was the same? I said I changed it back to the original scenario by creating a new analogy that resembled the events in the anime more accurately. It's a new analogy, and it's the original scenario...original as in what was happening in the anime.

Maybe I worded it badly. My mistake. I sincerely apologize.

Whatever the case, do you understand now?

"Starving Artist" is a term for those who are so consumed with their "art" that they do nothing else and often "starve" due to lack of funds to purchase food. If financing is irrelevant to being and artist then explain to me about all these musical "artists" suing Napster back in the day, or painters who's set legal dogs on people for using their work without permission? Art is for the masses free of charge is it not?

Forget the starving. Erase it from your mind.

An artist is an artist whether he's making money or not.

A prophet is a prophet whether he is making money or not.

Financing has nothing to do with being one or the other.

You said Basara is the epitome of the starving artist notion. I'm trying to explain to you that I'm not disagreeing with the starving part, I'm disagreeing with the artist part. I'm saying he was written much more like a prophet/messiah archetype than he was written as an artist archetype. Understand?

He did believe his music could reach people, but this whole liberation and messianic soapbox is largely without any support from the story itself.

Not that it needs to be said, but I obviously disagree. I see way too many spiritual, religious, and mystical references around Basara's character to believe that they were unintentional. [Many pointed out by NeoverseOmega].

My comments are in direct response to your comment about picketing outside a military/government building. Now you are throwing in a totally different scenario to justify your position. Don't try to dismiss my point with a different example from what it addressed. If that was your point all along then you should have made it initially.

I'm not throwing in a totally different scenario, I'm throwing in the original scenario.

I was confused by how you could equate singing with rape, which is why I posed the protest signage analogy. Once I clarified that your beef had little to do with the actual music/signage, and more to do with the trespassing aspect, (intrusion into your vehicle), I brought the conversation back on topic by posing a new analogy that is more directly applicable to the events in the anime rather than continuing down an avenue that will invariably get us no where.

He was a starving artist for his music, I saw no job, or any means of income outside the gigs he performed. He lived in a "forgotten" slum of the colony ship where it was pretty evident most who lived there were likely squatters.

I don't understand what jobs or income have to do with anything. He could be a messiah/prophet and still have no jobs or income. Financing is irrelevant to being a prophet or artist.

Maybe I'm not being clear...

Forget about the starving part. What I'm trying to say is that Basara was not an artist so much as he was a spiritial motivator or revolutionary. He didn't make music for music's sake, he used music as a tool to liberate and grow spiritia.

What liberation? How would he know they'd encounter the PD? How would he know they'd encounter brainwashed Megaroad 13 colonists? Who was he liberating and from what?

He was liberating everyone, not just the Protodeviln and a small colony of enslaved colonists. They were just the tip of the iceberg. His songs were just as much for his own people and the often war-mongering military as it was for the Protodeviln.

Like NeoverseOmega said:

If you buy into the logic of the Anime he's pretty selfless (after all, if he really is "spiritually enlightened" then he doesn't HAVE to know that the protodeviln will show up. He just has to believe that if they encounter anything out there while exploring space, he will be able to move it's heart) if not, well he's a delusional prick.

Basara and Ray were on a mission to make everyone and anyone realize that love triumphs over war and that nothing positive comes from retaliating against an attacker with violence.

There was no predetermination or fore knowledge of his abilities very often associated with those of the Messianic persuation.

Of course there was. Basara may not have known about past Anima Spiritia or the original Protodeviln conflict with the Protoculture millions of years ago, but Basara most certainly had a vague predetermination for his music and knowledge that he was different from others. Even Ray knew it. They had a plan to change the world with Basara's music from the very start.

The predetermination was also present the very first time that he flew out into the middle of a Protodeviln/Varuata attack. He had absolute conviction and belief that his songs would make a significant impact on the hearts of the warring forces. It's not like his ability was an accidental discovery that randomly occurred in the middle of a battle...Basara had faith in what his music could do before hand.