Gendo Koun

1 hour ago, Bolt said:

I much prefer the newer VF-31 design over the original Delta version. Mirage is a given 🤗

Such a Masterpiece that VF-31AX is so bulky 

Hell yes, new Yami Q_ray and Walkure music is dope af, I can even dance into the fire with my Zero-sen in War Thunder somehow with it like an ace lol

1 hour ago, AN/ALQ128 said:

Just got to listen to the full version of Glow In The Dark, its excellent! Honestly might be one of my top 10 Macross vocal tracks to be honest.

how ? 

29 minutes ago, RedWolf said:

Conrad Pi had translated the Macross Delta: Zettai Live movie pamphlet. (Via Google Translate).
Source: Macross Fan Central

 

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bruh, all of these pictures are all died

34 minutes ago, charles88 said:

I think you misunderstood what Ledakan43 says, he mention that VF-31 are more like mass produced unit,not AX

He already explain in the movie where 

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 VF-31AX for sure wins against YF-29 is the firepower, since it is much more expandable and compatible with all matter of Ghosts and equipments. It has the new panoramic cockpit that the SV-262 had even without implants and with the Fold reheat system or whatever that is, Hayate did some impressive stuff. Basically Freyja singing, burning her life + Hayate going Seed mode(didn't go Var like in the series) + huge quartz in the 31AX made him see things in slowmo and that performed better than Alto in the 29 I think. Also we see a lot of cuts where the 31AX gets shot and have explosions here and there, but it's still mostly ok, so it is tankier than the YF-29 for sure.

 

Then how you explain that Siefgried get stomp by Sv-303 yet VF-31 AX able to match Sv-303?

 

7 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said:

There's nothing stopping a fleet from building more Battle-class ships if they feel the need or desire to.  The City type has docks that could support up to three of them.

It may be an animation issue, but the Macross 5 fleet in Macross 7 appears to have more than one Battle-class ship in this scene from the series: http://www.macross2.net/m3/macross7/newmacross5/macross5-fleet.jpg

I agree, because having a bunch of Battle-class mean they have to animate all the firing sequences of iconic “Macross Cannon” lol

13 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said:

There are some provisions in the designation system in Macross for there to be multiple Battle-class ships associated with a fleet.

I assume that is too much cost to build. Instead they only have Battle-class Macross as their flagship and the ultimate weapon of a fleet. So they coming with a plan to make small Variable Space Battlecarrier like Macross Quarter-class which is cheap, powerful platform that can host up to 4-5 VF squadron and personnel issue is not a big deal anymore. This concept is so effective that they can have such a powerful firepower in massive number of a fleet but the cost is still not high as build a Battle-class, thus that Macross Quarter-class can be build onboard a fleet. 

15 minutes ago, Gendo Koun said:

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In Macross Frontier as we all know Macross 21 and Macross 25 were sister to each other because they were build as the same 204x era class but General Galaxy take full internal rework of Macross Galaxy so they just look the same but different inside 

 

7 minutes ago, RedWolf said:

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Macross 13 aka Battle 13 is a thing. Fielded by Earth or Federal NUNS. In 2050-51 Macross 13 was taken over by Earth supremacists and had to be destroyed. 

 

In 2059 Kim Kabirov is in command of Macross 13. These things are expensive but remember who builds them, General Galaxy. Macross  7 Fleet was constructing a new Battle 7 after the original  was lost as seen in MD7.

Megacorps fund fleets. Megacorps can also buy a Macross from the local government  like in Macross E. 

 

The decks may indicate the wreck of Battle Galaxy may have been recovered , sold off and refurbished. 

Wow, a so detailed post as what I expected as you @Seto Kaiba. First Gen Macross class is big and bulky Battleship but as 206x era it would considered as obsolete since NUNS has newer Battle-class Macross which is more powerful and carrier capable than First Generation. So if I was the NUNS itself I wouldn't let a state of art Battleship design to any non-government corporations that easy.

3 hours ago, Gendo Koun said:

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Yea, and Eplison Foundation is still smaller than NUNS and affect by the laws so they can not have and can not produce/repair/assembly a Battle-class Macross then refitting it with Protoculture stuffs like in the movie. Or my theories are: They retrieve the Battle Galaxy with scraping contract they get from NUNS, but they cant repair it without NUNS permission because they dont have the right to repair and must have send it back to Eden where the OTEC factory is since it is too heavily damage from Battle Frontier final Daedalus Attack. Since Eplison is a trading foundation, they still can not purchase the scrap of Battle 21, its top secret and belong to OTEC.

Conclusion is: NUNS is evil and want to overthrow Lady M but doesnt want to do dirty job so they established Heimdall Organization to do that and provide them with a massively powerful Battle-class Macross to punch through fiercest enemies: Xaos, which is currently under Lady M command, and local NUNS forces through the hand of Epsilon Foundation. Its a massive plot hole right there !!!!!

Well, my brain is kind overloaded from overthinking 

@Seto Kaiba what do you think ?

1 minute ago, ledakan43 said:

Spoiler

Also we see a lot of cuts where the 31AX gets shot and have explosions here and there, but it's still mostly ok, so it is tankier than the YF-29 for sure.

 

4 minutes ago, ledakan43 said:

Spoiler

Are they join final fight against Heimdall?
- The final fight against Heimdall was such a mess that I don't know how many joined the fight, but the downed Aerial Knights in Windermere did not join in the final fight. Unless you count singing together all as one is joining the fight lol.

 

15 minutes ago, Keith said:

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Lady M could be Miku Ichijyo, possibly not as scrupulous as her parents.

 

5 minutes ago, charles88 said:

 

Well, my brain is kind overloaded from overthinking 

Just now, Dressykamila1 said:

What am I supposed to say XD, in Poland there has been no anime in theaters for over a dozen years (not counting ghibli films)

Back in those days, when covid still not a big deal, my country Vietname bought a lot of new anime movie licenses and published it. I remember there were Fate, Violet Evergardern, One Piece, etc. But never been Macross, kinda sad

Just now, Tochiro said:

Well, that was a lot of fun. 
Got a bit of applause when the curtain dropped too - a lot of teary eyes in the audience.

Just about to head out for a 3rd viewing, with a 4th penciled in for tomorrow. 🙂
(Which sounds like more that it is since I know of at least one person who saw it 5 times on opening day alone ^^;)

Mannn, i just hope someone buy the license and publish it in my country theaters

Also in M7 Max is the captain and commander of Macross 37 Fleet so we should call him "Admiral Maximilian Jenius" 

😂

Just wonder

1 hour ago, Dressykamila1 said:

I wonder if someone from the USA releases this film, will Japanese editions have English subtitles?

We can just hope and hope

29 minutes ago, ledakan43 said:

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Got this to finally work now so let me try and answer some questions based on what i understood:

 

- The main enemy is Heimdall(spelling?), with tech from Epsilon, who is trying to overthrow Lady M since they believe Lady M has been the person controlling the whole galaxy from the background.
- The SV-303 is a Ghost that is controlled by the Fold Wave of the Siren Delta System.  Instead of micro missiles, the SV-303 is able to send out micro Ghosts. Since Heimdall is sponsored by Epsilon, it is very safe to assume it is Epsilon tech(just like SV-262).
- The Siren Delta system itself is a next gen version of Sharon Apple combined with the DNA of the Star Singer(which was stolen by the rogue NUNS person, who defected to Epsilon) in baby form. After experiencing Walkure's concert first hand, it created Yami Q Ray as a counter.
- The mecha looking exoskeleton thingy was disguised as a NUNS engineer, most probably Epsilon tech, that Heimdall sent to intrude in Macross Gigasion. It basically broke Arad and left him out of duty for the rest of the movie.
- The orange gray Ghost we see in one of the trailers are called Hyper Ghost, and is part of Macross Gigasion's arsenal. In the final battle after Hayate purged his armor(leaving only the back cannon), it gattai-ed with the 31AX ala Lil'Drakkens to provide extra firepower.

I understand Japanese but not all their Fold tech mumbo jumbo so take this with some grain of salt
- From what I understood Lady M created and has been communicating with Xaos with some Fold wave communication that is encoded. This communication was intercepted by Heimdall and that's why they are able to find the location of the Megaroad-1 and Macross Gigasion.
- Basically using Siren Delta System combined with the power of the Protoculture ruins of the Brisingr cluster, Heimdall planned to Fold the Megaroad-1 right in front of it and blast it away with the Battle Astrea's cannons.


 

 

Wow, thanks for the info, now i can rest peacefully 

5 minutes ago, charles88 said:

 

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.Where Megaroad 1? Answer: Lady M

 

+100 point to the movie plot 

1 minute ago, Seto Kaiba said:

If the spoilers are true, the writing is bad enough that you're gonna see me say a lot worse when I finally get my hands on this movie.  I really hope the writers came up with a better plot than what this sounds like.

The writing in Delta was substandard from the outset but these hopefully incorrect spoilers make it sound like it ought to be retitled Absolute Trainwreck!!!!!!.  

Ooof, but I like the visual but not CGI characters scenes 

10 minutes ago, charles88 said:

When I read, is that true Battle 7 appear in movie 2

unclear, due to translation issue. Just wait till it come overseas 

4 minutes ago, Dressykamila1 said:

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In short, Freyja will join the show despite its crystallization, thanks to which the new enemy (Heimdall organization) loses.  The goal of this organization is to recover the Megaroad 1 ship from the dimensional error and destroy it together with Lady M. They use the Siren system aboard the Battle Astrea for this.  Later in the film, the Siren system develops 5 different personalities, and it also has star singer cells that "match" the members of Walkure.  In turn, Mirage replaces Arad and leads the delta platoon.  Unfortunately, Freyja dies, and with the fusion of cells, a child with a rune is born, who will be raised by Hayate in the future.