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I would charge those who think suicide is stupid and selfish to re-evalutate their views. Most everyone who kills themselves conciously have severe problems connecting with others and the disconnect with the world around them makes it natural for them to leave it.

sure, if you're completely disconnected, and no one will care if you die, knock yourself out. Hell even if it's just other adults that might miss you, it's your life do as you want. I'm actually a big supporter of legal and assisted suicide.

But if you have a freakin toddler daughter, grow a pair and deal with your problems. You're her parent, you revoked your "socially acceptable" reasons for killing yourself when she was born.

Sounds like his anti-anxiety pills and sleeping pills didn't mix. No signs of illegal drugs.

that's a damn shame. always tell your doc what meds you're on. if the doc knew what he was on, this will be a real bitch for that guy.

But you might get to see a real minmay naked shower scene.

I don't need to ruin my Macross to see naked women.

QFT!

whats that mean?

Oh, did anyone catch what the voice at the end of the credits says?

i didn't catch it word for word but it's a military transmission saying something like

btw i love this spoiler tag, when did MW start using it?

can't think of anymore, and i really want to.

At first I was worried about my stocks in Yakuza Bank dropping in value, but percentage wise, their losses are in the single digits.

NICE!!!

let me try one:

The Japanese branch of China's First Feng Shui Bank said "for this economic change we are positioned nicely."

pic no worky worky

i dunno man, i associate very much with how the characters look in their line art. EVERYTHING would need to be remade to make it work. cosplayers are living proof that you can't just take an anime design, replace the character with a human, and have it all work.

a RADICAL redesign of SDF is exactly what i don't want.

"do not want" as it were.

Exactly. Kawamori went off the deep end as far back as m2012. He's turning in to a howard hughes and it's ruining the franchise.

...hug?

it's just a matter of *personal* preference ; and the fact that SDFM was the original has litterally *no* relevance as to wether or not it is the best one - regardless of its historical significance.

This is very true. SDF isn't the best because it's the first. It's the best and it's the first. I personally feel Kawamori has a bit of Lucas' Free Reign Syndrom. When Kawamori, like Lucas, was under tight budget and had lots of outside influence, he produced gold. Now that he can do what ever he wants, his projects have more and more of his personal quirks to them, and they've become less grounded.

and I love Macross 7 just as much as the original

then, you are lost! It's over, i have the high ground, don't do it!

btw low viz, that gun pod sound effect is one of my "this is macross" things. when i hear that Bbbrrrvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv i know there's a valkyrie around kickin some ass. or an A-10, either way good times.

I'm trying to figure out where all the 9/11 allusion theories keep coming from... can we now not have anything bad happen to NYC in film without 9/11 naysayers?

I love seeing NYC get destroyed movie after movie, I hates me some of that pretentious city. Like what's up with that commercial they're running in my area (SF bay area) where New York is begging for my money to fund some truck that gives food to the homeless. Good cause and all, but is NYC really so full of itself that it thinks it can justify funneling money from all over the country to feed it's homeless? there's plenty of homeless in SF why shoud my money go to NYC.

because of this, i welcome the aliens, robots, giant monsters, earthquakes, zombie vampire virus's and anything else that feels like putting that city in it's place.

btw this ends quite possibly the rantyest day i've ever had. I'ts been great guys.

i .. i jsut don't see how you can all laugh about this.

financial crisis is serious business

Here's my tip for watching I am legend as the bleakest, lonelyest masterpeice of emotional moviemaking ever.

I'm not trying to be obtuse, but I don't see how the two events are connected.

Perhaps if some national tragedy occurred...and while Heath Ledger's death is sad and tragic in it's own way, I don't think it's of the scale to make people stop thinking about everyday life.

Just IMO.

I was just trying to be topical T.T and trying to liven my current gloomy mood.

Will Cloverfield be forever forgotten due to a somewhat popular actor dieing right after it came out?

poo. He was pretty good actor and now leaves a daughter fatherless.

if it turns out to be drug abuse i won't feel bad for him anymore. this kind of abuse is so self centered in general, when kids are involved, thats just down right unacceptable.

it better be accedental/perscription.

One little qualm I had about shaky cam, no one ever sprints and holds a camera facing forward. If you're running for your life your arms flail while you run. So I wasn't nauseated but there were a couple times where I did the whole "yeah, this shot would happen" sarcastic smirk. Thank God they didn't do realistic running though, that would have been the most annoying movie ever.

The only scene that really grabbed me as awkward was the scene after the chopper incident. It seems like Hud is getting annihilated but his body ends up fine enough where they have to check that he's dead? Also, what happened to the monster next? It totally seemed like the camera would logically get left behind there as the couple sought safety. It was the only real instance where I felt the camera ploy was a bit forced.

EDIT - Spoiler ratified.

Yah, that was a bit forced,

I know some victums of trauma say that filming the horrors of the event kind of keeps them "out" of it. Like "i'm filming not experiencing. So i can sorta see why filming would be important to someone, too bad they don't mention that angle.

like a typical M. Night Shyamalan film.

its like going to a massage parlor to get a happy ending but not getting the ending.

yeah, i HATE that!

i think one reason shakey cam is used so much is it makes editing REALLY easy. Just film a bunch of non-descript actiony scenes of bourne driving a car, and shakey cam some cops driving a car. cut it together with a very few KEY scenes shot clearly and you can make the chase last 5 minutes or 20, mixing and matching what ever shot you want. easy peasy.

eugimon, i think the fact that cloverfield tends to have longer slower ups and downs, OR such fast motions that render you unable to focus on anything, helps it be less vomit inducing that bourns constantly moveing, yet focusable visuals.

cloverfield is, in truth, the shakeyest movie since blair witch during an earthquake, BUT it does it in a way that's truely intergrated to the film and at the same time less distracting than a "omnipresent" eyeball movie where you're supposed to be a phantom watching from your own vantage point.

in those cases a shake or two is ok, but too much is just annoying.

you make fine points about when and why the camera moves in bourne, i just think it does it poorly.

Well there really should be a distinction made, here. There's works like Cloverfield (and the movie Redacted) which are intended to be hand-held mockumentaries, and there's the the handheld camerawork that get abused by the likes of Michael Bay. Handheld garbage like the action scenes in Transformers should go away and never be seen on the screen again. But look at handheld done right, like the few handheld shots in Saving Private Ryan (a film I consider having birthed the moden epoch of shaky-cam) or even 2007's The Kingdom before you do away with it entirely.

this is very true, i've been trying to explain the difference between this movie, where you can ffor the most part let the image blur and take in the shakey cam, and you'll be ok, for most of the shakey parts

and the gut wrenching shakey for no reason stuff in something like bourne supremacy, where you're expected to focus on things through the shakeys.

this movie uses it propperly.

OK here is a retarded "JsARCLIGHT" question:

What kind of camera was used to "film" the movie, both the assumed prop and the actual camera? The reason I ask is that certain films like 28 Days Later and Blair Witch look good on a cinema screen even though they use sub-par equipment to record... and that sub par equipment is what primarily contributes to the "look" of the movie, but it ultimately "hurts" the film when it comes time to release it on home video.

My thrust is this: was this movie filmed using actual film resolution cameras and then "dirtied up" to get the look or was it filmed using actual low def hand helds in an effort to be more "original" to it's subject and context? My interest in this is whether or not this movie is going to be "worth it" on Blu Ray or HD DVD. 28 Days Later is NOT because it was originally shot in SD and it's master is SD to whit they upconvert it to put it on HD. Paying $30 for 28 Days Later on Blu Ray is retarded as you are in effect purchasing an upconverted rip of a DVD, which costs like $10. If Cloverfield is the same way (shot in SD, mastered in SD) then it does not behoove someone to purchase an HD release of it when the time comes.

Then again the overall picture quality of this movie, if it is indeed a film res source, is so low that having it in HD would be a waste of money anyway.

the rumor is that it was actually filmed on some kind of retail small camera. that might be part of the hype though, i guess we may have to wait for some behind the scenes footage.

Bsu you're getting pretty close to ad hominem attacks on jenus, which i dont' think is fair.

we're all argueing opinions here, so lets back them up with our own experience with the movie rather than attacking someone else's lack of knowledge.

I dont' think cloverfield is a "deep thoughtful movie" but i do think it's deeper than jenus gives it credit for, i've backed up my opinion with specific examples and he's free to agree or not.

The only thing that will change his mind is seeing the movie again, and maybe seeing something there he didn't notice the first time. Insulting each others intellegence wont' accomplish anything.

Obviously the notion of cinema verite is completely alien to Jenius.

Now now, Jenus is an ok guy, i kind of unloaded on him because a lot of my friends have the same opinion and i needed to vent.

It's not really his fault either, i mean, hollywood has been feeding us garbage for so long it's hard to forget to *look* for depth when the movie isn't spelling it out.

I can easily see how someone might feel how jenus feels, i just hink they're undercutting the movie is all.