Chas

Looking good so far, this kit is still on my to get list. Although I have never built a Resin kit before, maybe a dumb question, but is there any real difference between assembling a Plastic kit vs. Resin?

Resin will not bond with regular (styrene) model glue so CA is usually used (sometimes 2 part epoxy).

Resin parts are solid which makes them heavier and so they will often require the insertion of wire supports at the joins (called pinning).

Some resin kit manufacturers may use low-tech, or low quality mould release agents, so washing the parst throughly in a mild soap and warm water is usually required.

Depending on the quality of the casting there may be tremendous amounts of FLASH (eccess resin that had leaked into the spaces between the different parts of the mould.) This could reqire anything from a hooby knife to a motor tool to remove.

Nice score Thom! I'd love to have an SDF-1 in my colletion. I may have to add this to my want list now ( unless a styrene version is released by someone)

Very nice figures! I figured that once they were painted up the likenesses would 'click'. I like your take on the characters. There is a good resemblance and you have kept a distinct style. Kudos on these. It's good to see more fan made macross figures. Thanks for showing these off.

You know for one extra sprue, maybe two, they could issue the kit with the option to build it in TV or DYRL style.

Ah, but then they wouldn't be able to release a seperate DYRL 1/48 varient kit and milk the molds some more.

Is that for real?! What's the point of creating a fake UN Spacy logo in the show if you're just going to pirate the real one on your toy merchandise anyway.

Everyone is assuming that the show was made first. I suspect that it was in fact the other way around.

I propse that these cheap toys came first. Initially meant as a modern day equivalent to the old-skool VF-1 boots we all came to love/hate.

But then some mucky-muck thought "Hey why stop there? Why not rip off the entire show and call it an homage - then we can make lots more money and

everything will be ligit!" [of course these thoughts would have been in chinese in said mucky-mucks head - I'm translating]

That's why the toys were able to be released so quickly! And why the show sucks SOOOOOO MUCH - It's just a vehicle to sell bad bootleg toys - why pay writers? Have the president's secretary's kids write it!

I absolutely love the Picasso-inspired op for Sora No Woto!

I don't see any Picasso there - Gustave Klimt yes, but Picasso? Hontoni?

Anyway Watched the first two eps. Not bad, still to early to say it's fabulous but it is not terrible. But Moe-less? I DON'T THINK SO!

I'm way excited about Hase's 1/48 line though.

+1

I think it is best to keep it simple. What do you want it for?

If you're going to display it only - get a model.

If you want to transform / play with it - get a toy.

simple as that.

How much does a DX go for anyway? get three models of each VF to display in each mode, would it realy be that much more expensive than one DX? (keeping in mind how much better the models look?)

Same for the Hase. VF-1 kits (but you'd have to buy two fighter and two battriod kits + do some mods/scratch building if you wanted to have all three modes) vs. the Yammies.

I build models because I like to 'build' them, once I'm finished and they go on the shlef there is a great deal of satisfaction and (sometimes) pride, but then it's on to the next build - 'cus that's what juices me.

So, while I do share a little of LTSO sentiments for the 'TOY BOYS', really, it's up to you.

Whichever you choose is fine, just make sure the choice will serve you. If you want a toy to transform and play with then get a toy and screw what anyone else says.

Lastly I know that the Bandai's are 'transformable' and while it is technically true - it does (drastically sometimes) reduce the life of the model. So if you want to have it around for a while (and after all the work that goes into building a model most of us do) then I (like others) would warn against transforming it.

That's my two scents.

Q-Reas & 1/48 Messiah plz.

Has Bandai ever made anything in 1/48 scale?

2nd kit bandai

camphone used, sorry for the lousy image quality. took me a day to finish it.

Both are looking good! Like Jardann said it's a lot of fun to see all of these classic kits being built of late.

Now your next assignment, should you choose to accept it is to work out those seem lines!

it looks like you've got some good skills with assembly, paint, and decals, so now would be a good time to take it up to the next level - putty and sand those seem lines. When you've gained confidence in doing that you will have all of the basic skills you'll need to tackle any kit.

Seriously, though if the seem lines don't bother you then forget about working them out and ust keep having fun! That's what realy matters!

Ok I am sure I wont get many responces to this. I know some of you guys can make decals and I have made some of my own. But how in the heck does companies like, Revell, Hase make those decals you buy in their kits? I know its not done on an Alps printer. Is their some kind of device they own or have? Something one can buy commercial? I am just courious for I have spent about 2 hours tonight trying to find out. If anyone has a clue or knows a video or website that shows this I am just a courious person.

Thank you

Ranger565

AKA

Carl

My guess is that they don't do it in-house.

I think they probably out-source it to a commercial printing firm. Commercial decals are, I believe, produced through a screen printing process. Some companies (i.e. Hase.) may do it themselves, but I suspect that the majority probably out source it - probably to the same printing firm that produces their packaging. Try a google search for "commercial water-slide decal manufacture" and see what you get.

If any of them do manufacture the decals in house they undoubtedly use a screen printing process as well.

That's my guess anyway.

Wow! 10 freakin years! God I'm old!

Congrats, and a big thanks to Shawn and Graham, all the mods, and all you macross nuts.

God I love this place!

Kudos to Sweet-1 When things went wonky he stayed in communication and delivered the goods.

The kits are in great shape and were packed well. A straight deal through and through.

Would buy from him again.

Thanks man!

Putin' a good word for Capt Hungry.

straight deal, great guy to do business with.

Thakns again Cap'n.

I suppose I have to lump myself in with the collectors more so than the builders, but I wish it was the other way around. Like most others here, time is my limiting factor. Most of my hobby time for the past few years has gone into the resin casting end of things. And I've been way behind on even that lately.

I have a fairly sizable collection of kits, many of which are rather rare. But I can honestly say that very few of them have I bought with the intent to re-sell for a profit, or with no intention of ever building. There are many that I bought knowing that I wouldn't be building it for quite a while, mainly because my skills weren't good enough to do them justice. But I still would love to build most of them, provided I had the time, and my skills were up to par.

And every once in a while, I'll go through my collection and sell off a few that I know I'll never build. Usually it'll because I don't care about the subject nearly as much as I did when I bought it. The Armored Core series was a good example of that. I was all excited about them when they were new, and I bought a bunch of them as they came out. But my modeling tastes changed, and shifted away from most mecha. And so they went to ebay. I doubt I turned a profit on any of them, but oh well.

As for selling kits without boxes... when I see a resin kit for sale without a box, I immediately assume it's a recast, until I can prove otherwise. I'm just sayin'

Yeah, see I don't have a problem with any of that. I mean we all do that right - buy kits that we know we're not going to build for a while, or kits we're not quite able to do justice to at the time of purchase so they sit there for a while. Sometimes we decide we're not gonna build 'em afterall so we pass 'em on. Totally fine with it.

Again it's the folks who buy kits for the express purpose of reselling for profit - that's what get's my goat.

And before anyone says it again - Yeah I know they can do whatever they want with it once they have purchased it, and that a lot of the time they get burned and have to sell at a loss - That's not the point.

It's not about them making money or not, it's about the fact that they never wanted to build the damned kit in the first place - just leave it for someone who actually wants to build it! I guess in my ideal world people would just buy kits 'cus they want to build them not 'cus they could re-sell them later for more than they paid.

Again it's just how I feel, and I have realized, since I started the thread that there are things I have not considered (i.e. Shawn's post and a lot of what VFTF1 posted) which have tepmered those feelings, and I rationally understand that there is nothing Wrong with it, but the feelings are still there.

Continue if you will.

I have some 1/100 Macross kits that I could sell you for pretty cheap. They are glue kits, but they are quite simple.

I suggest you find some low priced kits at a local hobby shop. Old Testor's, or Revell Monogram kits will give you a decent quality kit with no frills at a low price. Get familiar with glueing, puttying, painting and decaling on some cheaper kits before you move on to something more expensive.

And remember, just have fun with it!!!!!

I agree. If scratch building is your eventual goal then I would start with glue kits, and skip the snap kits. As Jardann said, pay a visit to a local H.S. and look around for some cheap, simple kits of subjects that you like - maybe even ask the staff for some help. Also I would suggest looking into the different kinds of glues and picking up a container of each to get a feel for what each can do. Same goes for putties.

Well then, I guess I've been told.

Upon reflection, I suppose my desdain comes from the fact that I like to build kits, and a fair number of the kits I like happen to be older kits, of which there are a limited number. I dunno I guess I'm just naive to get upset at the fact that many of those kits end up in the hands of people who have no intention or desire to ever build them and simply see them as an investment and a source of potential profit. I mean fundimentally, in the grand scheme of things, of course there is nothing - capital W - Wrong with that, but on the rare occasion that I do decide to sell a kit I like to see that it goes to someone who wants to actually build it. Someone who will get the enoyment out of it that I would.

It's not really a case of me being pissed simply 'cus someone else got the thing I wanted, or someone else could afford to pay the high price that I couldn't, that's fine that doesn't burn me, if that person is going to build it. What burns me is if they got it and the thought of actually buliding it completely ruled out and all they see is just a source of potential profit.

You see, I think what it comes down to is that for me, the value of the kit is in the pleasure I get from the act of building it and against that it becomes easy for me to invalidate the possible pleasure someone gets from turning a profit from speculating. I just see that as such a loss. Against the pleasure I get from building a kit the possible pleasure someone else could get from speculating with that kit just pales. That I guess is because I'm just not built that way. I suppose fundimentally I'm not a Capitalist.

Part of it also is that speculating has very little to do with the actual kit, it could be anything really, the kit is simply a means to an end. Whereas the pleasure I get from building is all about the specific kit being built.

Anyway that's just how I see it.

Continue if you will.

Oh and KOG - no My initial post was not directed at people who have large collections of unbuilt kits. It was directed at those individuals who buy kits for the express purpose of not building them, but only as a source of potential profit. Hence the trem speculators.

Well I never even thought of that . . . I guess I can understand it though, but you mean even after retirement they have NO intention of EVER building them? ( while my brain understands the words my heart cannot understand the feeling.) Huh! Oh well learn somethin' new I guess.

So let's make the appropo changes.

Firstly, appologies to those kit collectors who do not speculate (hadn't considered you in the ontology of the universe)

Secondly, everyone please disregard the ref. to Kit-collectors and read only as kit speculators.

Thank you.

Continue please.

So some of you may already be aware of my desdain for the kit collectors out there, those bottom feeding, hobby kit speculators who never build anything and serve only to drive the price of older kits through the roof; you know the ones who pay exorbitant prices for older kits only to hold on to them and re-sell 'em for even more later on. Well, while I have not sold many kits (don't have too big of a stash) I have passed a couple on and I was always concerned that the kit was going to someone who had every intension of someday (if not right away) building it. Well I finally found away to do it, now you have to realise - I don't look to make a killing on the sales, I just want a fair price (if I recoup the cost great, if I get a little less, well Meh whaddya gonna do?). Anyway So this is my idea.

Advertise the kit without the box! then when a buyer expresses interest I tell them the kit comes with the box (no change in price).

So what do you folks think? Is this a concern you have had when selling kits? Do you care who buys it, or is getting as much $$ as you can more important? Do you have any schemes of your own to defeat the kit collectors?

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Great deals! Great service what more could you ask for?

Rob is AWESOME!

Actually, bebop was a musical style popularized in the middle of the last century; Buddy Holly's work was a perfect example of bebop.

My favorite episode just happens to be "Heavy Metal Queen"; the hangover scene was classic.

Sorry but I just have to correct this --- Nothing personal.

Actually Buddy Holly (and the Crickets) is pretty much straight Rock 'n Roll, where Bebop ( or just plain bop) is a form of jazz music that originated in the late 30's early 40's. It came out of the Swing era, but it's way different; much more fractured and nervous sounding - mainly due to its increased tempo, complex melodies, and just plain F'd-up phrasing. Think Dizzy Gillespie and Charlie Parker Rather than Buddy Holly.

I agree that they should. However Kotobukiya has just released a frame. I am picking mine up today. If Yamato did do it I would hope that they would make all sizes available, especially the large one for their big GNU figures.

yeah I've been looking at the Kotobukiya frame but there are a few areas that I'm not to jazzed about - namely that gundam-esque knee protrusion, plus the general angular shapes of the upper and lower legs. The feet also seem to be rather intrusive/ limiting for the possible shapes that could cover them. I'm hoping that other releases in this series (it will be a series no?) will have different design elements AND that the various designs will be interchangeable within the series. Here's hoping. Let me know what you think of the Kotobukiya frame - is that knee protrusion integral to the function of the joint, or can it bee omitted?

So I've been thinking about the Yamato GN-U series and how cool it would be if they sold the frame seperately. I would love to have a few of these to play around with. You know. . . maybe modify some Hase. Battriod kits for them, or scratch some Destroid exteriors. . . Hell maybe even a little Macross. ust dreaming, I know, but still how cool it could be.

Very cool, but 2030 seems sooooo far away!

Well not a General Macross Calender but the 2010 MacrossF is available (with pics) Here

Don't know if that's what you wanted, but there you have it.

I think that the success of their films says more about the mentality of the moviegoing public rather than their own filmmaking skills.

Yes! Idiocracy is prophacy the future it portrays will come to pass! -- "OOWW! MY Balls!"

Thanks to that Cadbury Commercial and those kids with the EYEBROWS! I'm listening to Freestyle's Don't Stop the Rock over and over again on youtube!

C'mon, admit it you KNOW you'd sing along if you knew the lyrics!

Well now you do!

"Freestyle's kickin' in the house tonight. Mooove your body from left to right.

To all you freaks, don't stop the rock that's freestyle speakin' and you know I'm right"

Now make those eyebrows dance BOYYYYEEEEEEE!