do not disturb

15 friggin pages!

i just want to read the complaints if theres any.

can someone give me the executive summary please.

waiting for more pics....

with lotion in hand.

MH ones look better overall IMO but requires a tone of parts removal.

i don't know much about the CM, i couldn't bring myself to buy it being that its so small and the asking price.

Cry me a river. You lost some toys...who cares?!

Look at the bright side - You're still alive and can still enjoy a venti latte @ Starbucks. Would you rather be in Iraq or Afghanistan? Would you rather be in jail?

STFU.

you're a frickin douchebag.

you're no longer part of our club.

whaaaat! this can't be? keep your head up my man.

if/when they make 2 seaters, i will buy them.

And what about when the Beagle stops production? Does it become vintage?

again, a manufactured collectible is not the same as a vintage toy.

the beagle ride armor is being manufactured specifically for the collectors market of today, unlike the gakken which was solely produced as a toy, to be played with and man handled like a toy. very few people bothered to save anything those days because nobody really "collected" toys back in those days.

beagle can stop producing these and in 20 years time, you'll still find hundreds of them available all in "mint" condition with all the original boxes and paperwork. do you save all that stuff? i know i save all that stuff and so does the majority of people here and abroad. everyone here takes care of their collectibles. we have display cases, UV protective lighting, and all the other stupid crap we buy to keep our toys all fresh and minty......so how many minty 1/48's do you think will be around 20 years from now? how many beagle ride armors?

research what happened to the comic book market back in the 90's. everyone started buying 4 copies of the same comic, putting them in plastic bags with cardboard backing, thinking that it would be worth a small fortune later on like spider man #1. then they discovered that everyone in america was doing the exact same thing they were. when they finally realized this, they all tried to cash out only to find out that everyone and their moms was trying to cash out too. it became a buyers market so to speak and comic investors lost thousands up thousands of dollars. why would anyone pay $100 for a comic book when theres 60000 other people with the same comic?

don't get me wrong, i'm sure the beagle as well as some of the other manufactured collectible toys of today will go up to some degree but not anywhere near the inflation of the vintage toys of old. gakken cyclones were selling for $15 back in those days, now even the imcomplete ones go for 1000% more($150) and up from the original MSRP. thats not happening with these toys for all the reasons i mentioned above. theres nothing particular rare about these when everyone is taking care of them and saving everything.

if you want to invest in toys with a chance of them reaching vintage prices, i suggest getting into something popular with the kids of today like power rangers. those are made to be toys, and the kids are into it and buying them are not saving the boxes or taking care of the toys in any way. those are the types of thing that has a chance of becoming a rare vintage toy.

I'm with you on this one mate. It's nice.....but how nice is the question?!?

for seriousness.

it could end up being a floppy mess like the MH ones.

i'm not hating on the MH ones since they only cost $60-ish.

if its $190 and ends up being a floppy mess, i'm gonna really be pissed.

i'm pretty sure i'll eventually get this for a good price because at the rate that yamato is releasing stuff, this will be one of those toys that everyone will pick up last. i mean why would anyone pass up on a transforming toy for a static figure? 10 out of 10 times i'm going to buy a transforming figure before something that just sits there and believe me, these will just sit there. then maybe 1 or 2 year later, people will start to pick them up just like they did for the q-raus. the only reason anyone would plunk down their money for this straight off the bat is if theres nothing else to buy and right now, there too much to buy with more on the way.

I think that for what they are bringing to the table, the Beagle is not that far out in pricing terms... Think about it: A nice vintage Gakken 1/8 goes for 100-200% of that price, and the Beagle actually appears to be the much nicer example - just check out all the features! I won't be getting rid of my Gakken, but I'll surely be stepping up for the Beagle. We can have our cake, and eat it too.

this does not compute. you're comparing a vintage collectible toy to a manufactured collectible toy, they are not the same.

also, once the beagle ride armor comes out you will see a price drop for the gakken ride armor just like every other toy thats been remade(for a lack of a better word).

i'll probably end up buying it some point but not until people have them in hand and some reviews are up.

only size matters, at least thats what all the girls i meet keep telling me...

a part time job.

this hobby gets expensive.

double post.

20000 yen = $190+ w/o shipping, yikes!

i don't know? its pretty awesome and all but i think i might just stay collecting the MH ones.

i liked the first one even though i thought it was going to be whack and i've heard nothing but good things about the second.

i'm heading downtown later today, i'm sure i'll find a copy.

people don't really add shipping and all the stuff they spent for resin side covers and hands, paint for some customizers and shelvers and all that... lol.

this thread was bad as is but now you're making it worse.

just thought i'd bump this up to accompany that other thread.

this thread is both amazing and depressing.

i've been out of the mospeada loop, what going on as of late?

i see theres a new MH cyclone coming out(gotta preorder it) but whats going on with the beagle? CMS?

is there some new company making anything?

this is the newest TF release....floptimus prime.

$25 for 3 sets of FPs, not bad, not bad at all.

i can't believe i'm actually stoked on toynami pricing.

i thought for sure it would be a complete rip off.

it would be cool if i collected these but no.

Another thing to note on the 1/60 is the chest. The hump will be much longer and nowhere near the lineart references.

I really wish Yamato would have designed this new 1/60 as a ONE seater platform. It's not like Graham doesn't have pics of what should be done to make it work properly, as a two seater.

its because yamato doesn't want to cut you a check for your ideas.

they can simply adjust everything you did ever so slightly and claim it as their own.

i wouldn't be a bit surprised if they incorporated(nice way of saying stole) your ideas into their 2 seater design.

this is from Bandai...

you say that like it makes some sort of difference.

this is bandais first attempt in trying to satisfy fickle nitpicking macross fans. you think yamato gets ripped a new one for everyone of their releases, just wait until this comes out and the members here have their say. sure bandai has made some good things over the years but they've never made anything like this, and its for harshest most critical fans on this planet.

please feel free to preorder and test it out for us...

my use of the rolling eyes is kind of obnoxious no?

i'll wait for the 2nd release with all the bells, whistles, and fixes.

sure yamatos QC is getting better but this is a whole new toy, that they're making for the very first time.....i forsee many problems.

i paid $200 to be yamatos test dummy once and once was enough for me.

woah, is it $100+ for a kit? or an actual toy?

its the knees touch the HUD that causes this problem.

use a pokey stick and push the knees past the HUD.