Agent ONE

That DVD just has a lot of little stuff. Its not like a movie or anything. All the good parts can be downloaded IMO.

What else was he in? You are right Sparticus WAS REALLY bad ass. The Vikings, Detective Story, 20,000 leagues Under the Sea and the Indian Fighter come to mind. I've only seen 20k leagues out of that list, and I don't really remember Kirk.

What else was he in? You are right Sparticus WAS REALLY bad ass.

I don't mind constructice criticism, or even something that is actually funny, but that is none of the above. anytime.

Arnold came back from the dead after being crucified (Jesus is the only other dude to pull THAT off) and then chopped off Darth Vader's head, tossed the head into the crowd and just sat there with thousands to view his blood covered glory... You guys really need to stop comparing people to The Oak.

Oldman is chronically in the supporting cast, so no... Ford could be though, I wouldn't rank him high, however. i'll give ya oldman but ford?!?!? got tortured by vader and live to tell the tale, frozen in carbonite and kicked boba fetts arse while he was blind(dumbluck but still) he took on the nazi's, posessed by cult then tried to rip the heart out of the leader and theres so much more.... True. but after the IJ movies he went way soft. Really lightweight movies. That loses him some serious points.

Oldman is chronically in the supporting cast, so no... Ford could be though, I wouldn't rank him high, however.

Hell yeah! He ran the Wild Bunch. It takes one huge nutsack to lead your posse into the lions den on a suicide mission. Then he shot, like, 300 mexicans with an M1918 machinegun. Plus he took on Damien. Don't forget his suicide mission in Bridge on the River Kwai

I DO!

He may have a place on the list, He was the man in Pulp Fiction, but after the candy ass racist he played in that Shaft remake abomination, then the puntang jedi role, he is probably bunkin with Chuck Norris.

My briliance knows no limits.

Dude, How can you not mention Unforgiven. He's a bad-ass throughout that movie. Twice, near the end, he stares death in the face. What he says to Eastwood while looking down the barrells of that shotgun is just f'ing priceless. H oooo.. Very true! I will add it. It doesn't shift his place though. The guy was a bad ass in so many movies.

Damn... where's Bruce Lee??? re-read the list.. He made the latest update thanks to DT.

Rocky 3... ONE good movie. Funny guy but hardly a legend.

Yeah, what's up with that? You're our Arnold Corospondent in SoCal. Make sure the Oak knows we need to see him do Crown Of Iron, and not Triple H. I know man. It HAS to be Arnold.

Soda is refined sugar... NOT GOOD FOR YOU! Don't drink it, its the #1 cause of diabetes in the US.

Pretty much... DT and I are going back and forth on the issue, but Gibson is just soft now. At least Arnold quit with a bang (T3) and will probably use his vacation time to do Crown of Iron (if my prayers are answered).

LIST UPDATED: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?...ndpost&p=194260

I only put action legends on the list. I mean Micky Rorke is cool, but he has never been much more than a supporting role... Kind of like Carl Weathers. Lee Majors was cool for porking hot chicks and being the 6 Million Dollar man. Actually my avatar (which is me) is a tribute to that show. I don't know, he still doesn't hold a candle to the dudes on the list. Not a legend. I saw the Rock mentioned a few times. To tell you the truth I don't think he has reached legendary status yet as he has only stared in 2 bad movies and one fair one (the Rundown). I think he has the potential to become a legend, but he has a way to go.

I thought of him, but for reasons you mentioned I wasn't sure where to put him. I might add him in tomorow.

I edited the list slightly. Yes I know I never edit editing because editing is for pussies, but you guys would be tired of scrolling through that list more than once.

I don't watch South Park ever... I think its OK, but I just think other stuff is better. I've Charlton Heston in those movies and I think he is a dynamite actor, just not really tough. And no, I haven't seen Papillon.

Yeah none of those guys belong... Carl Weathers isn't an action star... He is a supporting star. Unless you are talking about Action Jackson and I think we ALL want to forget about that.

Van Damme should be on the list, and Sonny Chiba WILL be added. How could I forget the only man who could play Golgo13.

The Official Agent ONE: Tiers of Toughness TIER ZERO: GODMODE: the devine ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER – Its lonely at the top. He defines indestructible action heroes in the most extreme way, when you see him in person, he doesn’t even look human. From the machine he was in Terminator, to even his tender side in Conan the Barbarian he has displayed that he is just unstoppable. CLINT EASTWOOD – Found the energy after facing death in the desert to throw a cup of water in Tuco’s face and crack a joke in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. All the Sergio Leone movies saw him looking down the barrel of a pistol many times and he didn’t flinch. Toughness unlimited. Upon rethinking the situation and a long discussion with Duke Togo (no not Sonny Chiba.. The MW member) I have decided that Eastwood is immortal like Arnold. * Honorable mention goes to Jesus Christ… He wasn’t an action star, but if he was I am sure he would be one bad mo-fo just like Arnold. TIER ONE: Bullet-proof SONNY CHIBA – Duke Togo, Golgo13… There is no tougher character in anything ever. In fact if instead of Alien vs. Predator, it was Alien vs. Golgo13 I’d imagine Sonny would walk out of the movie with an alien skin coat. SYLVESTER STALONE – The man has made some corny movies, but is immortalized for the first 3 Rocky movies and First Blood. He took insane torture and even saw death to come out victorious, and for the most part fought for very little other than pride. So tough, he’s a commie’s worst nightmare. TIER TWO: Laughs at death JACK NICHOLSON – Powered by insanity most of the time this ‘Joker’ was always looking death in the eye, and death was scared. His pinnacle was One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, the Shining, or A Few Good Men. Just badass. CHRISTOPHER WALKEN – The Deer Hunter, just beautiful to be able to gamble with your brain as a betting chip. Like Jack, powered by insanity but a much more seductive insanity, mesmerizing in a way, and on top of that he did hold that watch up his ass for a few years. BRUCE LEE – This guy was the most dangerous man with his fists to ever live. His movies were great fun and he was always in awesome shape. Unfortunately in real life he could catch bullets in his teeth like in the movies. MEL GIBSON – Mad Max.. Braveheart, Payback, really tough.. Too bad he has done so many limp roles since then, he would have scored much higher. TIER THREE: Eats nails GENE HACKMAN – The French Connection, Enemy of the State, Runaway Jury… He always impressed me with his toughness, kind of gave me chills reminding me of my father when he was pissed at me for painting the cat. CHARLES BRONSON – This dude was just awesome in his day, but I could never decide if the source of his toughness was insanity like with Jack, or it was ‘little-man disease.’ We all know this guy was like 5’3. I understand most actors are short, but I always felt like his character was the little guy trying to push everyone around. Aside from this fact he probably belongs with Sly, Clint, and Jack in “Laughs at Death.” ROBERT DENIRO – The Taxi Driver… Nuthin beats a suicide mission, or even the stuff he did in the Deer hunter. The guy just eats nails. LEE MARVIN – The Dirty Dozen was just awesome, and it would have been nothing without Lee. One tough sucka. TIER FOUR: Walks on broken glass BRUCE WILLIS – Ends up covered in his own blood at the end of every movie… Pain is nothing to him, and I like the way he dealt with terrorists in The Seige. JAMES COBURN – Our Man FLINT! The ultimate in cheesy spy movies, as well as a ton of other great roles, one always knew if Coburn was in the movie he would put on a tough show. Even toward the end of his life in Payback he was In like Flint. LEE VAN CLEEF – Not many movies really highlight his badass nature, but when cast in the Sergio Leone movies is enough for me. Awesome tough. GEORGE LAZENBY – Yeah yeah, the dude only did one real movie, but the self proclaimed “Connery Copy” did it all without the use of gadgets. The only Bond to rely ONLY on his toughness and wit. Honorable mention goes to Robert Shaw. I just haven’t seen enough of him to really judge; I think he belongs with Lee, James, and Bruce though. TIER FIVE: Better than average SEAN CONNERY – The original Bond does disserve some credit, though we all knew he was going to make it out of any life threatening situation, he still looked down the working end of a few guns and managed a smile. He would have been higher but he depended just a little too much on his gadgets which may be cool, but isn’t tough. PAUL HOGAN – “That’s not a knife”… Not superhuman, but way better than the average so-called action star. CHUCK NORIS – Better than average, but never did much on the screen for me. JEAN-CLAUDE VAN DAMME – The ‘Muscles from Brussels’ has a great physique, probably the best in acting as far as pleasing to the mass market, however in real life he seriously fails to be tough. Claiming to be the greatest martial artist in the world then getting your ass kicked when trying to be Billy BadAss at a NY club is not so tough. TIER SIX: Is my hair ok? STEVE MCQUEEN – Was ok in Bullet, but never did much for me. He was high on the ‘chick magnet’ scale, but he isn’t really tough. CHARLTON HESTON – Maybe his movies are just too old for me to really get into, but he never really did much for me in the realm of toughness. One of the best actors on the list, but surpassed many times over in toughness by the above Tiers. TIER SEVEN: Lisp-Ville JOHN WAYNE – Sorry guys, I know back in the day this kind of dude was considered tough, but he just comes off as an overweight blowhard to me. FAT does NOT equal tough after 1975. Russell Crowe fits this description also, but he isn’t even a legend so he doesn’t even get a spot on the list.