Agent ONE

Weak people ALWAYS complain about polls when they don't like the result.

Agent ONE's Star Wars Suck-o-meter, with others things added for perspective. 100 - NO SUCKAGE (Conan the Barbarian, or pictures of myself) 95 - (DYRL) 90 - (Return of the Jedi) 85 - (Empire Strikes Back) 80 - (Attack of the Clones) 75 - 70 - (The Phantom Menace) 65 - 60 - 55 - (A New Hope) 50 - 45 - 40 - 35 - 30 - 25 - 20 - (Robotech) 15 - 10 - 05 - (Sailor Moon, or Pokemon) 00 - FULL SUCKAGE (Macross 7)

Now comes the part where all the worthless-tampon-sucking-pussy-M7 fans sign in with their other usernames to skew the result. I mean they are spineless so its not like they REALLY want a discussion.

Is that what he was saying? I thought he meant "pansy waste of a show" or something. He did

Unfortunately, history has dictated that all M7 threads end like this. edit: At one time someone posted a light hearted story about M7 and how it inspired him/her (I think is was justvinnie from the old board). Then people come along and post the same usual "it sucks" stuff. Then the pro-M7 group counters, then the anti-M7 crowd comes back, and so forth. This is why people like Keith have stopped posting in these types of threads. As part of the pro-M7 crowd, am I arguing the merits of M7? No. Why should I? It just leads to endless debate which goes nowhere. Which is why all of these threads end up the same way. As long as blood pumps through the mighity veins of Agent ONE I will remind you all of my stance on M7... And why do some members quit posting their opinions!!?? Because they are worthless and weak, just like that pantywaste of a show they like.

CROM laughs at your terrible spellings. My God is greater. My God is the everlasting sky... your God, lives beneath him. CROM laughs at your four winds!!!

CROM laughs at your terrible spellings. hehe theres my crom. shouldn't "spellings" be singular? No. Never. I think you need to brush up on your Cimmerian history.

CROM laughs at your terrible spellings.

We are getting a board skin and tons of site updates today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There's a joke for ya.

I said "relatively conciliatory". . . meaning "more conciliatory than that which came before" and I still think it was. Sorry if my tone isn't coming across. This is like the first time in eons that Agent ONE has given any reasons for his thinking. . . ... I CAN back up everything I say... But do I need to? Isn't my awesomeness enough?

Well, the best is all I have to offer, since after all... I AM the best.

Well, you didn't ask me this. . . but the guy's post is deserving of some heavy ridicule. . . or maybe it just deserved to be ignored. I can't decide. If I follow it correctly (and who's to know!). . . it goes something like: Those who hate M7 are engaging in propoganda. The Nazis engaged in propoganda. Here's some quotes from Hitler. The US engages in propoganda and everything it has ever stood against has been a figment of its psychotic populations' imaginations. There is a lot of inequality in the world. The US is a bunch of Nazis. M7 is like the "Real World." Brainwash. Now. . . even if we open our minds very wide and accept that this sorta stuff can be posted here. . . it's still utter BS. We've got a Marxist on our hands who just read Mein Kampf and now thinks everything he sees bears some relation to it and his worldview. H See I don't even read that guy's posts. But yeah, I can't decide... Is his head filled with human feces or dog feces?

Ok, that was the most f'd up defense of Macross 7 I've ever read in my life. And people say I come up with weird defenses for the Spartas..... He's really not a very sharp guy. Better off ignoring him. Final Vegeta and Lowviz lurker are the most difficult people to understand on this board.

Praise from Caesar! HAHA... I am glad you have your good sense of humor back... Or maybe I am just being slightly less of a jerk.

Well, first, I'm not that retarded. . . ... Yeah well, sorry about that. You are right, you are not retarted. You ARE a fanboy, but you are not retarted.

I don't recall making a big deal out of the box office difference between RotJ and Ep1. And, I certainly don't see where this age concern has anything to do with the difference between the box office for AotC and TPM. Did all the people who got so excited and filled the theaters in droves for TPM suddenly become old and unwilling to visit a theater by the time AotC arrived? Would they have been so unwilling had TPM been better? I'm just not seeing your point. And, for the record, I think there are movies that transcend the usual demographics for movie-goers. And Star Wars would be at the top of that list. H I can't believe you are retarded enough to not know that the younger people are the more likely they are to go to the movies... Factor that in with the advent of the 'home viewing venue' and your statistics are worthless. http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_...v18/ai_18894246

Well, I don't think there were many Star Wars fans who waited for DVD to see The Phantom Menace. But, by your logic (which I don't agree with), there were a lot of people who waited to see Attack of the Clones on DVD. Again, I would argue that this is because the Star Wars fanbase had become disillusioned between the two movies. ... No dude... Between ROTJ and EP1 SW fans got OLDER! Which means they are less likely to go to a theatre at all. Why don't you do some more research on the age of people who go to the theatres.

My argument is in the 8th post of this thread. Here it is again: I actually don't view M7 as something that is "gay" because I feel that is an insult to gay people.

Sigh, well don't I feel like an idiot? Here I spent all this time assailing Uxi's interpretation of box office figures while assuming they were accurate. Yet, when you look at the actual box office when adjusted for inflation, The Empire Strikes Back comes in at #2 (among Star Wars movies) just behind its immediate predecessor, Episode IV: A New Hope. And, bringing up the rear for the OT, as expected, is Episode VI: Return of the Jedi. Episode 1 is in fourth place. Episode 2 is last (again, among Star Wars films). Here's a list of each movie, it's all-time rank among all movies, and its gross adjusted for inflation: 2 --- Star Wars (1,113,247,500) 12 -- The Empire Strikes Back (613,629,000) 14 -- Return of the Jedi (587,871,300) 19 -- The Phantom Menace (530,138,300) 80 -- Attack of the Clones (334,177,900) Sources are here and here. Silly me for assuming Uxi's figures were accurate. Anyways, that's one helluva drop-off for Attack of the Clones. It's immediate predecessor (TPM) was #19. Attack of the Clones is #80! But, I really don't fault Attack of the Clones for this. Rather, I think most people still had a sour taste in their mouth after Phantom and had given up on Star Wars. Far from supporting Phantom, the adjusted box office figures actually paint a fairly gloomy picture of its effect on the franchise. Does anyone seriously want to make the argument, however, that --then or now-- The Phantom Menace was/is more popular than Attack of the Clones? After all, look at that difference in ranking! No, I still don't think that you can use box office figures to demonstrate how well-received a movie was by those who viewed it. . . but the difference between box office returns for the latter two movies do show a softening of the Star Wars fanbase. I would argue that this was because Phantom Menace disappointed so many. But, I'm sure there might be other plausible reasons. Man, I wish I had checked these figures a lot earlier! H Those figures are misleading... Back when the OT came out there was no way to see the movies outside of a movie theatre... Now we have DVDs and people wait to see it at home. You can't make the comparison. There are pleanty of movies that I wait for and never see at the theatre.

Thus far all 5 movies are on the same level of greatness... I think he will end it trying to make this one slightly better, but still fitting in with the rest.

Of course they are after him... They want to borrow that dress. I even think the Sentinels uniform was better. I mean I SH!T on Robotech but its better than M7, in every way. M7 ruined everything.

I am for anything that increases OUR killing power.

Some would say the same about Macross. Though they'd be wrong. . . just as you are wrong (IMHO) about Star Wars. You and I have been over this before. So let's not do it again here. And indeed, should we feel compelled to do so, that thread is still open (miracle!). But really, with apologies for ewilen for dragging him into this, nobody has ever said it better than he did here. But, I'll refrain from quoting him in this thread. Let's just agree to disagree here. I couldn't resist poking a little fun because of the similarities of the arguments and didn't intend to restart the debate. I had forgotten about those posts, you have a hella bad ass memory. I can't remember what I ate for lunch. I guess my only dissagreement with you is the degree to which you see the childish elements of EP1 and EP2 and downplay them in the OT.

That is a perfect post. And, I hope it's not too ignorant of me to say that it's posts like this that have made me steer clear of M7 and spared me the horror of it. After all, if I didn't like MII, and M7 is supposedly worse according to nearly everyone, how much will I hate M7!?! Now, if everyone will permit me a bit of fun-poking: If you take A1's point #2 above and replace M7 with "Episode 1" and Macross with "Star Wars". . . you basically get what I've been saying about Star Wars for years. ALL the SW movies were targeted at kids. You saw the first 3 as a kid, RIGHT!????