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I'm sure I could have worked out a sweet deal trade for the max and milla. I had a lego phase for a while and now my macross stuff is hidden behind ceiling high tubs of vintage space and aqua sets. I need a max and milla boxed. After that I think only three more boxed, not counting the israli, and I have all the 1/55's up to the current. Need 10 kilo's of warhammer and battletech mini's?

Only thing I need to complete my Japanese toy collection--and my 1/55 valks--is a (reasonably priced) MIB 1/55 Super-O, so that's the only trade-bait that would have worked on me.

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Thanks, all. Hoping to pick up the TV Max (my favorite color/head scheme) and possibly the CF. Glad the design/QC kinks seem to have gotten worked out.

Just wondering if anyone's had any shoulder problems with the 1/60 TV Max & Cannon Fodder.

ooo nice. If you end up finding one, can you sell me the one you have? I have a box less elint that needs a box! Let me know when you find one! Thanx!

Wish I could find one first. Anyway, I'd be willing trade my Elint box + cash for a box in even better shape.

Hi,

Picked up a MIB Elint. The outer cardboard box is in pretty good shape overall, with some slight wear. Still, I'm a bit a picky about the condition, so I'm looking to upgrade. I know this might be a longshot, but just wondering in case anyone happened to have just the outer Elint box in good condition.

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It sounds like you don't know the players or the parts but are quick to pass judgment.

Yeah, my bad. I'm sure whatever he did to you or Danth or whoever on this board (devoted to adult toy fanatics) was very bad, like when Chong-Li beat up Jean Claude van Damme's brother in Bloodsport. Despite being Chong Li's #1 fan, I was totally rooting for Van Damme at that point.

Let's not crap on Danth here too much. Roger goes out of his way to be an ass to people and sometimes he's bound to have it come back around to him. I'm not talking in regard to what happened with his images but rather in regard to the tone that some people use when responding to him. If Danth came off like an ass to Roger than oopty friggin' do...

Hey, I totally agree. If someone said something mean to you a while back on a toy board, someone you've never met, someone whose opinion of you should mean absolutely zero, you should definitely hold a grudge and use any opportunity possible to dump on him--because it's only fair, it's TOY BOARD JUSTICE AND RETRIBUTION.

My six-year-old nephew is more mature than this.

Puh-leeze.

I never called Roger a saint. I've never even met the guy. I just thought it was a jerk thing to say that came out of nowhere on a subject that had nothing to do with this Biggie-Tupac style grudge that apparently exists between Roger and some of you.

Because frankly, I didn't know you guys were gangsta.

A month from now, I'm not even going to remember that I posted on this thread, much less who else did.

What project is that? A real project that's in the works, or some nerd's naive dream that will never happen? Serious question here. Just curious. Is there a book on the way?

Why the unbridled hostility, man? Serious question here. Just curious. Is there something to be gained by being a jerk?

From what I've read, the book project was cursed before it got off the ground--publishing's always been tough and has been getting tougher in the past few years...only way something this specialized would have made it was through a boutique/vanity press or self-publication. And even then, there'd probably have to be more than just pretty pictures to make a complete book, like interviews w/ designers, translations of text, thorough contextual/background information, a lot of substantive value-added stuff by the author. Maybe all that was there; maybe it wasn't. Who knows? We won't.

Regardless, there's no need to go dumping on a guy for wanting to preserve a personal project. These were pictures given to him to do with as he liked. And apparently, he wanted to put together a book, but some unscrupulous people scanned and distributed the pics without his permission for...what, toy board glory? Don't see why that's so hard to understand.

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And yes, as I previously mentioned, Yamato are planning to change to a smaller diameter shoulder pin, which should solve the problem. Unfortunately, it was too late to implement this as a running change for the VF-1D, but I've been told it will be implemented starting from the next release, which IIRC is the VF-1S DYRL Max.

Anyway, seems like since Yamato tightened up assembly line QC after the initial problem with the first run VF-1S Focker, reports of breakages have been way, way down.

Graham

Just checked HLJ and they have the Max VF-1As as coming out before the Max VF-1S. Did I miss something? In any case, I hope they all have the shoulder pin fix--I might actually buy one of these new 1/60s.

Dude, the movie (and graphic novel) pretty much addresses all of your points.

miles316 wrote:

Adrian did not create his plan "to save the world" he did this for his own ends he wanted power.

It was his company that was rebuilding new York at the end of the movie.

Profiting from all those no bid contracts from the government hell he probably owned half of New York.

In the movie, he was explicitly telling the businessmen that he could buy them all three times over. Why would he be doing this, much less anything, for more money or power? In the comic, we're told he inherited a tremendous amount of wealth, then gave it up so he could rebuild it.

Their are alternatives than building bombs and blowing up a bunch of cities.

Adrian was supposed to be the smartest man in the world, and he could not have come up with a better plan than that.

Apparently not. Or not when the world is on the brink of blowing up entirely, as opposed to a few cities here and there.

This man was planing this for years he arranged to give cancer to three people that probably would have taken a couple of years and developing the infrastructure of his company not something some one can just pull out of his ass in the eleventh hour. This was premeditated...

Yup. That was the whole point.

Alternatives to blowing up a bunch of city's would be to neutralize the worlds nuclear arsenal not just the soviets. I'm not talking about destroying them in the air, but while they are still in their silos.

With his powers DR Manhattan could appearer in the command and control bunkers of both sides disrupting communications between missiles and the command centers.

After he disabled the weapons control networks he could go to the individual missile silos and transport the warheads in to space or transmute the uranium or plutonium in to lead or some other inert metal rendering them useless.

This would remove the danger of nuclear war and send a terrifying message to the leaders of the world.

At some point, you got to tell yourself, "It's a comic book." I'm sure Alan Moore would come up with an explanation for why this couldn't happen. I mean, why didn't Manhattan know that Adrian was planning all this?

Tachyons!

And even if Manhattan could disable all the nukes, that really was Adrian's point. It wasn't about disabling nukes, which can always be rebuilt. It was about changing people's mindsets and their willingness to nuke each other by giving them a taste of what a nuclear holocaust really means.

Why is Adrian using a monochromatic MacIntosh computer in his office and Owl man has full color flat screens in the Owl ship. Adrian is the most powerful industrialist in the world why does he use black and wight computer screen where as a man who has been retired for years has flat screens.

Maybe because Nite Owl II is both a playa and a pimp, whereas Ozymandias is only a pimp.

Saw the flick. It was a'ight.

If you can explain how the Comedian's near-rape of Sally Jupiter averted the nuclear annihilation of the world, then yes, I'll agree that Adrian was the bigger douche.

I liked when they used dawn of the Valkyries during the saluter of the Vietcong by DR Manhattan. A nice homage to full metal jacket.

You mean Apocalypse Now?

It was a good musical reference ("Ride of the Valkyries"), as that movie's view on the Vietnam War was dark and decidedly non-heroic.

By the way, Claremont and the rest of the 80's called, they want their air quotes back.

Okay, but I'm holding on to my "Member's Only" jacket.

BTW, where can I learn to be as fly and good with the "snaps" as you?

Oh, if only that were true, than I wouldn't get sucked into so many worthless debates with people who have the reading comprehension of a 2 year old.

It's awfully nice of you to be always sucked into worthless debates with two-year-olds who can't read good, because, well, I did not know that that was your thing.

If you don't mind, let me take a few hours to thumb through my comic collection so I can reply your detailed bullet list of Wolvie's actions in the past twenty years with a more detailed bullet list.

Thanks!

If that piece of condescending pedantic drivel is what passes for an apology in your world, I accept it.

Well, it sort of wasn't.

But I think you "got" that.

That touches on the broader theme of the work "Do the ends justify the means?" and that is always a tough issue. A good example I remember was when I was studying history at Uni. My lecturer told us that when Stalin had most of the Kulak people in the Soviet Union executed in the early 1930's, (How many? Anywhere between 700,000 and 60 million, pick a number), he was actually doing them a favour because they would have starved to death anyway. To me, that was always one of the most BS arguments I have ever heard in support of genocide. Similar situation at the end of Watchmen, kill millions to prevent a Nuclear war that would kill billions. Another BS argument to support genocide. I'm with Rorschach on that one.

Taksraven

Great point. And that's why I think all the characters are so incredibly wrongheaded in the end. It's also why this book is so nihilistic.

you missed the part where I said rorschach was a DISTILLED wolverine, devoid of the superhero trappings. I got it and expressed it clearly, you're the one who tried to turn this into Wolverine the noble knight.

No, I got that.

My bad, though. I guess when I read this (bold mine)--a statement riddled with sufficient self-contradiction to fluster the most expert of philologists--my brain just gets confused:

Personally, I don't see the difference. Rorschach IS wolverine, distilled down without the superhero spandex wearing silliness. They both put their own moral code above anyone else's.

Only, like, the satirized is not the satirical, right?

And, hey, don't blame me if Claremont (and Frank Miller) wrote Wolverine as the honorable Western Samurai. I totally hated the vacation in Japan thing.

Eugimon wrote:

In X-men number 1 (the jim lee reboot) Magneto and Cyclops both remark that Wolverine was trying to outright kill Magneto.

In X-men number 4 he's seen lifting his would be kidnappers by his claws which Wolverine has stuck in his chest at the time. In X-men #5 he's seen standing over a body that has claw stab wound through the top of the head.

Even during claremont's run, wolverine killed plenty of normal human mobsters in Japan.

The above seems to be about all that I remember from my reading (haven't read a superhero comic in nearly ten years--you're referring to the Acolytes above, no?), and in all these instances, he was killing or trying to kill people who, well, were trying to kill him and his teammates.

And hey, I've long since grown out of the phase when I thought this stuff--kill or be killed--was "cool" (even for Wolverine).

However, the point was whether Rorschach was Wolverine. He's not. Just like he's not Batman, or the Question, upon whom he was based.

Rorschach is pretty obviously meant to satirize wolverine and other such 'heroes', imo. The heavy handed didactic self righteous moralizing, the over the top brutality, even making him short and repugnant physically. Those traits directly reference both the punisher and wolverine.

And here you finally get it. Yeah, he's a satirical figure. Yeah, he's repulsive. Yeah, he's a reference to the sillier aspects of superheroes. But saying that Rorschach is Wolverine is like saying that the Watchmen--who were all based on older established characters--are those characters. And they aren't. They're deconstructed versions of what those characters would be like in "real life"--the screwed-up, non-idealized, mentally unstable trajectories of a hero fantasy taken too far.

But Wolverine--the one from that golden 80s decade--still belongs to that period of idealized fantasy. Boyish violent fantasy? Sure. But he's no Rorschach.

But who the hell knows with what Wolverine's become these days--that part of the argument I cede to you.

In any case, the satirical is not the satirized. Hyperion from Squadron Supreme, while obviously based on Superman, is not Superman. Hyperion's the social commentary of the fantasy that Superman represents.

(aside: Just like the British circa 1730 were not really contemplating eating poor Irish children.)