The Newbie and Short Questions thread

[TG Remix]

On 11/15/2025 at 1:48 AM, Seto Kaiba said:

The New UN Forces only really fight Zentradi fleets if it's unavoidable.  Like to protect an emigrant planet, or if it's not possible for an emigrant fleet to evacuate the area in time to avoid a confrontation.  The same rules of engagement almost certainly apply to the Supervision Army if they're ever encountered.  They would probably treat the Supervision Army similarly to the Zentradi and hit 'em with the Minmay Attack while spamming Macross Cannon fire and thermonuclear reaction weapons.

I was under the assumption that the bigger NUNS body believed the Minmay Attack was a fluke, and skipped that step before ordering some unfortunately placed fleet to unleash the arsenal. 7's "Fleet of the Strongest Woman" seems to believe that, even further by Chronicle where it more or less state that the outcome of a pacified fleet hasn't happened up until that point since SWI. There's another difference from the Macross II timeline I suppose.

 

11 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said:

A-class planets are said to be few and rare, and the implication from Macross Chronicle and Macross Frontier seems to be that those are ideal or near-ideal Earthlike planets that are suitable for immediate colonization and development.  Macross VF-X2 suggests that less suitable worlds (classification unknown) may require years of environmental modification to become suitable for emigration.  Presumably the amount of time and effort required to modify a planet's environment to make it suitable are factors in deciding whether a planet is worth colonizing in the eyes of a particular fleet, and whether that investment is containable for the fleet's resources and economy.  Macross 7: the Galaxy is Calling Me! has that one unnamed planet that was apparently colonized despite being a marginal case because of the presence of rare and valuable minerals.  

The Macross 30 novelization also elaborates on this as well, where it explains upon discovery of it there's two outcomes of it; there's selling the rights to a megacorporation or a emigrant fleet, and the former wouldn't give me high hopes considering the track record of Macross Galaxy. Less smoothly, there's also been armed conflicts between two different fleets that broke out over the right to claim the planet for colonization, which of course would get the Earth government to intervene. Could explain where some of those wars from Isamu's military record came from, and further explanation on the UN and Latence's stance on more direct control towards the other governments by VF-X2.

 

M3 also touches a bit on habitable the planets are. Even as early as 2014, where Eden, a Class-A planet, was established, there was Neo York that developed enough to have a territory called New Alabama (yes, really.) and several years later in 2020 it had enough inter conflict where the New York Liberation League is at odds with the local government. Since Eden has been stated to be the first colonized planet, my money is on Neo York either being a Class A planet or one that didn't need extensive terraforming before settling. Also of note is Cristrania, which was noted as a natural planet developed for Zentradi life, which I'm assuming it means it's a planet good for giants to live in, and Dahan, which was referred to as a resource planet. Considering how it looked like it only had 5 Namekian minutes left, that probably was the best use of it, whatever resources they get from it. Fold carbon/crystals maybe?

[Seto Kaiba]

6 hours ago, TG Remix said:

I was under the assumption that the bigger NUNS body believed the Minmay Attack was a fluke, and skipped that step before ordering some unfortunately placed fleet to unleash the arsenal. 7's "Fleet of the Strongest Woman" seems to believe that, even further by Chronicle where it more or less state that the outcome of a pacified fleet hasn't happened up until that point since SWI. There's another difference from the Macross II timeline I suppose.

That doesn't seem to be the case.

After all, the New UN Forces in Macross 7 spent literal years and vast sums of money on Project M for the sake of further developing the Minmay Attack as a military stratagem to be used against enemies without culture and as a way to make peaceful first contact with new alien races who did.  The first thing Max does in "Fleet of the Strongest Women" once the enemy are identified as a rogue Zentradi fleet is send in Sound Force for a Minmay Attack.  Similarly, in Macross Frontier, the very first suggestion Leon Mishima offers with regard to the Vajra attacks is to have them "listen to a song" (i.e. the Minmay Attack).  

Earth's insistence on destroying the Chlore fleet feels a bit weird and out of place on its own, though since Macross 7's themes lean heavily into rebelling against authority having an officious jerk to humble is a bit of necessary comedy.  Their attitude makes a bit more sense with the extra historical context from Master File, with it having been only about 9 years since the last run-in with such a large rogue fleet and that incident having started with the loss of an entire planet, 73 warships, 600+ Valkyries, and almost 600,000 lives.  Telling the crew of Battle 7 to destroy the fleet also makes a bit more sense in that context, since the Battle 7 was the flagship of the fleet mustered against the previous Zentradi fleet 9 years ago and absolutely had been able to take down a fleet that size.

 

6 hours ago, TG Remix said:

Could explain where some of those wars from Isamu's military record came from, and further explanation on the UN and Latence's stance on more direct control towards the other governments by VF-X2.

Maybe.  Then again, considering how many of them there are and how short they seem to be on Isamu's service record even calling them "wars" may be giving them too much credit.  That can't be all fleets beefing with each other either... at least one of them is a civil war and another is described as a revolution, suggesting some of it is a single fleet or group of colonists from one fleet fighting another.  Others may be run-ins with Zentradi forces like the one at the start of Macross Plus's OVA version.