BlueMax

To be clear, we don't hate the VF-25 per se. Rather, we are less than satisfied with Bandai's take on it.

After doing a bit of reading, yes, only the releases after the VF-11C featured no tinited canopies, and for the new VF-1 Hip lock mechanism, the VT-1 was the 1st to start the trend(for the chronology of releases, please see pinned thread above)

However, it did not automatically mean that ALL VF-1s released after the VT-1 had the new hips. According to Jenius, the improvements did not apply to the anniversary edition 1S valks, and a couple of others, which I cannot remember at this point right now..

I think we need an addendum to the pinned thread for this, or a totally new thread altogether, just to let people know what they are in for.

I think the anniversary VF-1Ss have the hip and shoulder updates. Not too sure if Max's DYRL has it though, but IIRC, no.

I'm gonna assume that these are not going to be colored or assembled?

It would be nice to have a full set of pictures here, as the original thread has pictures kinda scattered all over the place, and definitely preferable to have some them posed next to the 1/60 valks/ destroids. Thanks!

Yes to VFX-2's VF-11, but no to M & M VF-11

Since I have just been to HK just a few days ago, maybe I can just share a little bit (best to have the locals to give views thogh). Basically of all the places in the list, I though that only Inn's point (right above Yau Ma Tei MTR station) and Richmond Centre near intersection pf Argyle street and Fa Yuen Street (Mongkok station) are worth going. Some of the valks can be really cheap.

I did not really see valks for sale at CTMA centre and Sino centre.

Haha... there is still the Zolan Patrol 19. That is almost identical to the Fire valk.

Unless I remembered wrongly, Graham has mentioned that the blazer valks AKA Emerald force valks will be sure to follow.

Are those vents really carved into the back? Does it still transform?

The vents are painted on. It can still transform, since it is based on the transformable VF-1 mould, with the VF-X specific parts removed (the VF-X isn't transformable as far as the fiction goes)

Yep, was sold by the scupt the moment i saw the fighter mode pic. Now, just hopeing the colors can make the cut and not make some cheapo semi-translucent red-tinted plastic.

The head should also split from the radar array. So new main guns, new head, new shoulders, and obviously the Daedalus and Prometheus.

FYI - giving this thing a Prometheus and Daedalus with a TV paint scheme was the rumor I mentioned earlier

Personally I can accept the head not splitting from the radar array, as somehow I thought it makes more sense for it not to split actually. Furthermore, the storm attacher mode is the mode I would personally display it, so not much of a biggie.

A large TV version SDF-1 is my grail macross toy, hope we see one. The difference between TV vs movie versions are big, a repaint and just slapping the D and P on the arms aint gonna cut it.

TV

Movie

From what I read, some people actually think that the TV SDF-1 toy will look anything like the lineart in terms of proportion. I feel compelled to speak about this: I hate to say this, but the fact is that the PROPORTIONS wil be very much similar to the DYRL line art, which is closer to what the actual thing will look like (see 1/2000 or 1/3000 SDF-1)

The TV lineart's bow is way too wide, basically as if it is from a forced perspective that makes the bow look almost as wide as the stern, when in fact the bow is only as wide as what is presented in the DYRL lineart, and for even more accurate indication, the 1/2000 or 1/3000 DYRL SDF-1

However, having said that, the fact is that slapping the Prometheus and Daedalus in place of the Armds ain't gonna cut it. I can accept the torso bit, but the shoulders, specifically how the cannons are attached (Swivel internal versus swivel external of shoulder) need to be addressed, alongside the main gun (the TV version has an arc indent on each side of the main gun). Only with these few changes (shoulders, maingun and of course with the P and D) I can accept a "repaint"

It sucks, basically. Get a VF-27 if you want something from Frontier.

I concur. VF-27 is definitely superior is almost everyway

I remember this projetc being on the front page of MW

Preorder is up @ amiami for 1/60 DX VF-25G Tornado

http://www.amiami.jp/shop/shop?vgForm=ProductInfo&sku=TOY-RBT-1324&template=e_review.html&set=english

Does the new release of the 19 still come with the fastpacks?

IIRC, only the 2006 version comes with the FPs. The newest versions' FP come seperately, and includes parts for both the 19 and 21.

Now I'm trying to max out all the stats of the Characters and Mecha. The Last Supper skill or Song of Destruction skills really bring on the hurt and really shortens the time needed to complete missions.

They read with interest that you have "sets" instead of just a "set"

remember that the hi-metal VF-1s are slightly off-scale.... they are actually bigger than what a 1/100 should be.

Well, the aquarium can still capitalise on him one last time to boost its visitor numbers, even in death

Animation wise, I am quite impressed by the new backgrounds as well as the additions to the existing stock footage, especially during the opening. I can imagine, watching it in the cinema and being wow-ed by the scenes of the ships of the Macross Frontier Fleet going past as the camera closes in on the Frontier Fleet's battle Frontier and Island 1.

However, as far as character animation goes, I am a little disappointed. Maybe it was to ensure consistency with the TV serie's character animation quality since the quite abit of stock footage was used from there as well. Of course, that means that the character models maintained the series' quality, which while pretty ok for a TV series, makes this movie look as if it is released direct-to-DVD type of movie. Of course, the good news is that it maintains its consistency mainly throughout the movie, unlike the series, especially episode 8, where the animation quality takes a serious nosedive.

Thus, putting storytelling and pacing aside (which I shall not comment on, not at this time anyway), I feel that although I have enjoyed this movie, this movie will not be the classic that DYRL will be for Macross or what Transformers the Movie (1986) is for Transformers G1 series. Of course, maybe the 2nd moview will improve on this aspect, but it is to become anything near a classic, it will have to depend on solid storytelling to cover what the character animation can't achieve for this movie.

Just my 2 cents.

Or a very simple method. 2B pencil. Looks pretty good without overdoing it, and best of all, completely reversible.

Too true. After the 2nd movie comes, then we'll be back in the dark ages. Occasional model or toy re-release, possible game release.

Might not. 2012 will be the 30th Anniversary of Macross. After that.....

Yamato will probably make a better toy (like the VF-27), if they have the chance any given time.

Popularity wise, it is a a different matter altogether. Assuming that Yamato instead of bandai was then one who had the rights to make the VF-25s, and had substituted Bandai in releaseing the VF-25s in exactly the same dates that Bandai had released them, etc (I.e all things being equal other than the manufacturer and Yamato's commitment to anime accurateness), I think they would just as popular, if not more so.

However, assuming that yamato secures the rights say, 4 years later, it proobably not. They would have lost the 1st mover advantage and without any supporting media (Toy Advertisements disguised as TV series or movies), it is kind of hard to sustain interest, and even harder to generate new interest.

I'll take 2. One S and one M