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I used to save and flat back all my Yamato boxes, but in the end I just thought "what for"? and threw them all out recently.

Graham

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I don't know if Yamato changed how they print the boxes or anything, but I held one of my boxes more than the rest and the ink literally came off on my fingers. And it's amazing too because I can go out and get a 6 pack of beer and the print on the box is good and doesn't come off, and we're basically talking about a consumable/recycled often product. Bandai boxes are printed much better, glossy too as I recall.

Hmm as far as throwing them out, I know a guy such as yourself would have a rather large collection, it's hard to make room for boxes. I still have enough room on my shelf for more yammies, just not sure when I'm going to purchase them

someone's silkscreening?

I just got my black one in the mail today. Sure enough, it is a watch. I dunno if these ship with the battery disabled or not (either have to take off the cover or push in the crown) but it isn't ticking. So I'm wondering if the battery is possibly dead from sitting around so long. The bracelet looks like it's made out of stainless, but I'm not sure about the main part of the watch. It's overall good for a $5 watch if anyone was lucky enough to get them that cheap I paid $20 shipped.

Yamato = Ferrari

Toynami = 1979 honda civvic with 600k miles.

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I find this funny. Toynami is american and made in china, yamato is either chinese or japanese and made in china hmm... how do you come up with a japanese car compared to an italian one

Yamato = Acura

Toynami = Chevy

maybe that'd work a lil better Problem is, honda makes good cars that CAN last that long with proper maintenance.

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don't insult chevy. Ford maybe, but chevy

would bandai be volvo? Boxy but good

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Ah I dunno man, imo ford makes better stuff. I haven't had any problem with the contour whatsoever, still running strong. Same with the F-150XLT.

But back on topic, I think the very last valk I bought, I got for somewhere in the neighborhood of $25-$29 shipped off ebay. Someone in SF was selling a few valks off and I snagged one. I was truely blown away by the price. This was a VF-1A movie version Hikaru. The first real valk I ever owned was the same, but cost me about $80 shipped from robozone which I felt was fair at the time. I guess that just shows to keep checking ebay and you can get a good deal. I noticed the super-o doesn't cost as much as the vf-1d. Interesting.. I just wish the super-o was moulded more to be displayed with or without its armors.

you'll have to count me out on this 1/60.  $150 is by far too much money for a small model, as Yamato tends to flood the market and stop producing and then restart producing with a couple improvements and reflood the market once again.   I'm going to wait and see if the price shaves off $100 down to 50 over time.  They've got to be nuts.  I could understand if it was a 1/48.

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You do realise that the 1/60 VF-0S is actually larger than a 1/48 don't you?

1/48 VF-1 = 30cm in fighter mode

1/60 VF-0 = 32cm in fighter mode

The VF-0 is a big bird, far larger than the VF-1.

Graham

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No, I did not know that. Thanks Graham, I may have to reconsider. I thought the VF-0 was the same size as a VF-1S.

Is there any reliable price list, for current values of our valks available? I was just thinking about it, and I have 2 of each reissue bandai 1/55 plus one extra vf-1s roy fokker reissue, checked on ebay and my max and millia are going for $300 a pair. I feel very lucky that I bought so many at retail price back then, and I know there's many members on here who have half a dozen or so CF's.

I also started doing this with Yamato 1/60 but lost interest when Bandai quit on us. I was hoping for well, you know the rest... I'm thinking about some day finishing off my Yammy set but got on to other hobbies.

I'd actually like to take the opportunity to say thanks not only to the staff of this message board, but also all the members here. You guys have helped out a lot and made this collecting hobby very enjoyable.

you'll have to count me out on this 1/60. $150 is by far too much money for a small model, as Yamato tends to flood the market and stop producing and then restart producing with a couple improvements and reflood the market once again. I'm going to wait and see if the price shaves off $100 down to 50 over time. They've got to be nuts. I could understand if it was a 1/48.

they've been on ebay off and on.

about $20 shipped.

not my auctions:

looks like he's sold out of style B (the blueprint one)

here's a closeup of my opened watches:

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Nice pics man thanks, I should get mine tomorrow hopefully. I ordered it off ebay, there was another on ebay I believe, of the black one. I like that blue one hmm I wonder if I should get it, but the face is so flat.

Hey so are those plated? As in, you wear it all the time, are they getting worn out on the back or are they solid? Seems like these days you _can_ get a cheap stainless steel watch, I mean steel doesn't cost very much money.

btw - style b is up for bid, not buy it now.. you can email him and ask if he has another, cuz he probably has a lot of these

Yamato = Ferrari

Toynami = 1979 honda civvic with 600k miles.

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I find this funny. Toynami is american and made in china, yamato is either chinese or japanese and made in china hmm... how do you come up with a japanese car compared to an italian one

Yamato = Acura

Toynami = Chevy

maybe that'd work a lil better Problem is, honda makes good cars that CAN last that long with proper maintenance.

I have two of the blue one, one still in package, one I wear all the time, battery is still good from whenever I bought it years ago.

I have two of the black ones too, let me find it.

i didn't buy any of the plastic/nylon banded ones, just the metal banded ones.

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Nice,

So does that mean it is fully stainless steel? I still have a $10 watch I used to wear and the plating is turning green on the back. I should get this banpresto watch in the mail soon, if not today. I'm thinking about getting the blue one too. Wow you guys got good deals on these watches, I've never seen them for much less than $15 + s/h from china.

I finally bought one of these off ebay and was wondering if anyone remembers if there's only 4 different models. I only saw two on ebay that looked decent, so I decided to go with the skull & macross logo model. Pretty cheap watch, so probably going to end up leaving it boxed so it doesn't get ruined but it's pretty neat.

That GPB isn't out yet? Man oh man. Well they never released the super armors either I can tell. But I'm missing the last 6 1/60. Gotta get em some day, as I have complete Bandai re-issue set in duplicate plus one extra VF-1S. Once bandai quit issuing, I started to lose interest though. Looks like Yamato flooded the market with VF-1S Strikes, since they reissued that one already (not very good for collectors imo but actually they should be able to issue as many of whatever they want and not hold to limiting things) Come to think of it, I don't think Bandai was really into intentionally limiting production on reissues, just wanted to make what they thought would sell.

FINALLY I GET GPB-1S ARMOR !

well anyway if i would've known how tiny these were I probably wouldn't have bought them. But they're nice anyway. I bought a spare Millia so I could just keep the rest in the packaging. I saw the Millia and was like WOW I need it. I like the color a lot. Nice bright red.

But I'm happier with the purchase now. I really like the detail on the gpb-1s and Millia is fun to play with (wouldn't any guy agree?

Anyhow, Millia is about 3" long in fighter mode. not exactly sure cuz I have her in gerwalk mode now. Transformation leaves you with quite a few little spare parts, but it works out ok. It is a bit tedious to try to keep the thing from falling apart while transforming it or setting it down sometimes. Would've been cool if they were a little bigger but they're cool.

Well... it has been reported several times that the Macross Plus toys were basically Toycom/Yamato's attempt to impress Big West enough to get a new license to make VF-1 toys, as well as gauge fan interest in new transforming Macross toys, both in Japan and the U.S.  (obviously the U.S. part of things ended up setting off a rights debacle).

So in that case it was more of a market test, but I'd assume that the target age range was similar to what they're doing now.  Of course, Macross Plus is a newer anime and those toys were priced far cheaper by Toycom than what they ended up costing to import.  And far cheaper than Yamato's higher price point items, like the 1/48 and the Q-Rau.

Yeah...

I remember preordering the yf 19, yf 21 and the vf 11b for $40 bucks each.

Everytime I think of those days and compare to the prices I pay now, it just makes me wanna go ballistic on HG.

Also, looking at the quality of Macross plus valks they made then and comparing it to the 1/48's really make me feel optimistic about what yamato will do with another try at Macross plus.

Anyway, gosh am I the only one who feels yamato will release more than just another yf 19 FP? or am I being too optimistic?

I remember preordering them for $30-$40 each somewhere around there off valkyrie exchange. That was a fiasco, I bought my first valk off Robozone and really never bought anything from VE since they didn't do anything at all for their preorder customers. Their prices tend to be average to too high anyways.

I'd agree to some degree of it being expensive. I don't believe that stuff made by Yamato is very expensive to manufacture, possibly even cheaper to make than some $10 Maisto 1:18 scale model cars that you can buy at Costco. What upsets me about Yamato is they will produce a valk for a while then stop. Then if there's enough demand, they'll produce a lot more of that valk (I heard this happened in particular with the VF-1S Strike with full armor) So I was about to buy that one, but I still haven't yet. $80+ for that is rediculous because it isn't very collectable and the value just virtually is nonexistant unless for personal sake.

Now I'm missing a few Yamato and I have all Bandai (I think Bandai were all worth it, even though I spent too much on a few of them) But at least Bandai manufactures a certain amount to sell based on sales figures and projections then stops. They don't seem to purpousely make "limited edition" stuff (e.g. Yamato VF-1A TRU CF) and they don't seem too interested in really making valkyries ever again to begin with, sadly. I was hoping for the VF-1S Hikaru Strike and the other two like the rest of you people. I suppose the VE-1 and VT-1 weren't reproduced because there's really no reintroduction of the movie into Japanese theatres or something. Just my guess. Could be a licensing issue too.

Well I've just been waiting for the Yamato to come down in price. I got a Hikaru DYRL VF-1A off ebay for about $30 shipped a while back, I can't see paying much more than that for a VF-1D, since they are not rare by any means. So I figure if I wait a bit, the price will fall. They sure used an ugly shade of orange on their valks didn't they. I used to possess a VF-1D but the guy who sold it to me made it seem like it was misb, when it wasn't so he got it shipped back to him

They look a lot better in your pics than other pics I've seen (like in package). Real cool stuff. I bought set 2 but I need to get set 1 still. I noticed there's Bandai Gashapon on ebay, but I dunno I thought bandai quit making macross stuff? Seems kinda silly if they do since they didn't put out all the 1/55ths that everyone wanted.

You have to remember, the Japanese civilians did not know what was going on out in the Pacific. (correct me if I am wrong) Of course the civilians probably turned a blind eye to when they enjoyed the spoils of war.

actually, the civilian puplic of japan knew invasion was iminent, the japanise government was training them for hand to hand combat. even women, children and the elderly were prepaired to fight to the death.

this is why the predicted cost of life was expected to be so high, the actual japanise military had been desimated, all their seasoned soldiers were dead (just ask ww2 pacific allied fighter pilots)

imagine allied soldiers having to fight heavily fortified strongholds every couple of miles, and when finally breaking though, having to slaughter women and children because none would surrender, and would continue to fight untill dead...

its easy to take all these reasons and try to defend the a-bombs as having been dropped on a 'kind' of military target since the entire japanise populace was consider hostile and had proven earlyer that they would not surrender, choosing fighting or suicide instead. this isn't the case though, the targets were selected more to test the power of the bombs, wich is something i'm not proud of.

before you judge the americans of the time however, you have to remember that all through europe, city wide carpet bombing from both allies and axis was common practice, and had cost far more lives on both sides than both atom bombs combined. it was the way war was conducted, true persision bombing just didn't exist. times have changed though, and for the most part the US doesn't do that sourt of thing anymore. we do have tactical nukes aimed at enemy citys, but these are retaliatory defence systems that i don't think anyone seriously plans on using. one can hope anyway.

...not to mention that the japanese did have underground bunkers throughout tokyo and such..which I think my dad said they used as machine shops when he was there in the 60's during vietnam times.

I just wanted to post something on topic, I think your icon is hilarious

I was checking out my 20th anniversary DVD today and noticed an intro to a sd macross series. Did this ever exist, or is it just fan flair they put in the dvd?

Thanks

Did I ever mention that DYRL is my all-time favorite anime film ever? lol

I have absolutely no problem with the movie being entirely different than the TV series. I've always thought that if a movie isn't a direct sequel of its predecessor, it should be different. What would the point be of making the movie exactly like the TV series? DYRL still followed the spirit of Macross, as it did pretty much follow the main plot points of the TV series.

I think that if I wasn't a macross fan and I came across this movie, perfect edition or not, it would still be my favorite anime movie film ever. Great story, superb artwork, and the FX english subbing is cool. I would prefer english dub (cuz I'm not a pure hardcore anime fan) but of all the bad things I heard about the dub, I am fine with the subs.

I just got the DVD today and watched it, it's great. FX version.. I like it a lot better than the full screen version I have. The animation is very crisp and looks like something that would be made recently, besides that you can really tell that the artwork is very beautiful, non cg. It's a great dvd. The FX box is transparent plastic too, pretty nice looking bootleg box and all. Plays great on my 27" sony wega And I'm just using the ps2 to play it.

I hope this doesn't sound too dumb, but I still don't understand why the quality is close but not equal to (it says that on VE also on their product page) But I'm just curious, I'm sure I'll be happy with it. I'm hoping it's at least as good of a remaster as they did with the TV series for the US release of that. Too bad there's no decent english dub. Yeah I know english dubs aren't for the diehard anime fan but some dubs are real good and neon genesis evangeleon is great because you can switch between english and japanese speech and have subtitles as well. I guess maybe there was too much quarreling over the rights to this movie in the US because of harmony gold or something.

You won't find the R2 release for 30.00. R2 DVDs are always expensive. Different economy, higher cost of living, dollar vs yen etc. The FX disc is a rip of the R2 disc from Bandai. I own both. The quality is close.

And ali meant cdjapan.co.jp to find the R2 version. he needs atyping program lol

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/

Ahh cool thanks. Well I just tried not to be rude with my reply to ali. Maybe he/she speaks Japanese?

Well how close would you say it is? Seems like a rip should be pretty much identical since it's all digital.

I'll check that site out and thanks for the heads up about those dvds being expensive. I think my PS2 is region free or something (there's always a way around that anyways). Hopefully the FX version plays well, I had a problem playing my Macross Zero Ep. 2 dvd on my ps2. Why I use a ps2 to play dvds is another matter off topic Just less clutter I suppose.

I have the older release of DYRL that I bought off of VE. I'm really hoping the FX quality will be superior to it, as I was a bit disappointed (especially that I think the dvd case says it is a DVD9 but my DVD-R says the disc is 4.3 gigabytes as I recall).

Thanks

Hi,

Is there any difference between the bootleg and official widescreen version of this anime?  I have seen copies of it floating around particularly on valkyrie exchange for about $8-$15.  The official version costs $80.  What's the deal with that?  $80 is quite a bit excessive for one movie no matter how good the quality (though this is an excellent movie, I've probably watched it at least 10 times whereas I wouldn't bother purchasing most stuff that comes out in theatres)

Also if anyone knows a place selling the official version for a decent price (below $30 I'd say is fair) please let me know.  It's doubtful though.

tyrey japan cd

what?

Hi,

Is there any difference between the bootleg and official widescreen version of this anime? I have seen copies of it floating around particularly on valkyrie exchange for about $8-$15. The official version costs $80. What's the deal with that? $80 is quite a bit excessive for one movie no matter how good the quality (though this is an excellent movie, I've probably watched it at least 10 times whereas I wouldn't bother purchasing most stuff that comes out in theatres)

Also if anyone knows a place selling the official version for a decent price (below $30 I'd say is fair) please let me know. It's doubtful though.

It's not hard to bootleg dvd5's, I have the whole macross set that was selling for an ungodly amount (what was it $500+? wtf) on pioneer dvd-r media. Yeah I know that's just burns but think about it, there's a ton of silver pressed stuff in asia that's real easy to get.