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How was Messer's Valkyrie still intact? At the end of the last episode it was plummeting from the sky. Does the AI take over at some point and stop it from crashing? I know there was a discussion regarding the AI in Hayate's Valkyrie being disabled in an earlier episode.

On another note, I don't think there's any indication that Kaname had feelings for Messer. I think his connection to her through "Axia" came as a complete surprise, however there's no doubt that revelation deeply affected her. My guess is that Messer's death will ultimately bring Kaname and Arad closer together.

Finally, I agree with the criticism regarding the last few conflicts between Delta and the Aerial Knights. Having the episodes end without resolving the skirmishes in some fashion is growing increasingly disappointing.

Quick view.

I definitely feel cheated by breaking to the aftermath. So the Aerial Knights just stopped and left? No, "CRAP! Ragna forces have arrived. We're outnumbered! Run!", Just let's cut the the funeral. Boring. Absolutely boring. It was a nice story episode (not so much a character episode and not a action episode) but I kinda wanted some follow through from last week. Not immediately go to the aftermath.

At this point, Windermere needs to suffer some big setbacks. The fights feel really 1-sided. There's no stakes for Windermere. NUNS has lost pilots. Now Delta Squad has lost pilots. When will Windermere feel that pinch now? They started this fight, it's about time they feel the sting of it.

well after watchin ep 10 over again, why I think messer already dead when keith shot the canopy. the var seems give lot of pressure to messer body, perhaps he got heart attack or stroke so he can not escape keith attack. on ep 9 arad said messer already at his limit and he exhausted because the var.

well about the hemera. just realize. when hayate & mirage talk to messer the hemera was seen. when suddenly there's raid alarm the scene switched to main bridge and then hemera is gone (where?). when bogue want to attack walkure it seems hemera docked again on elysion.

Wind song seems to only be the initial trigger, afterwards victims react to aggressive tendencies.

messer symptomp seem triggered when he ready for battle.

perhaps at first var intended to make soldiers fearless + stronger when goes to war. but it seems hard to control it. so they goes berserk

and about ruin water, ragna ruin is under water, does that mean entire ragna could be in trouble? we dont know how many apples they already consume right?

So my big prediction is that the point of scanning Ragna's ruins (a twin said something like "we can make the wind blow any time"?)is that they're going to blow them up and take the planet with.

Big raising of the stakes at that point. Evacuating with the Elysion ect.

what does roid mean by "without the wind singer the ruin its just rocks"

does that mean winderemerean got the trigger to activate ruin on other planet? cause on voldor the ruin are already "activated" by heinz and then when walkure sing the ruin respon to walkure

why bandai didn't make dx toys for NMCV especially battle frontier and battle galaxy?

no new info about elysion?

perhaps there are nanobot inside those apples that dormant and activated by fold song that caused the var

curious about winderemerean rune. are that like tentacle or some sort hair extention. and what happen if it somehow being cut . also how many form of the rune? freyja has heart, hermann seems like a box, other aerial knight are like a star.

Eric, the Half-a-Macross

how about lets say its elysion class, cause we still dont know the details yet

I'm still calling shoulder boom cannons ala Macross class.

if it the shoulder boom, how to fire it in cruiser mode? isn't it gonna blast the bridge?

I see it now.

So then the leg supports rotate forward to sit underneath the Arm Carrier ships. The towers don't really flip backward, it appears the torso rotates and the center module counter rotates to keep the bridge on the topside of the ship. A fairly simple transformation compared to the NMCV Battle Carrier, but also reminiscent of the SDF-1.

Now the million dollar question? Does she carry a buster cannon or not?

I just hope the right side arm are a pseudo carrier that actually a gunship perhaps it hide the cannon firing mechanism behind the deck

If you want to see how Macross Elysion will look in cruiser mode. Courtesy of Tochiro's Twitter:

https://twitter.com/gwyncampbell/status/730563468856676352

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As Windermere conquers more planets Chaos begins an operation to stop the tide. Aether launches with Alpha, Beta and Delta Squadron.

This episode focuses on the trials of the main triangle. Mirage burdened by her family's legacy and expectations of others. Hayate in saving Mirage from death has first kill with a mook newbie Aerial Knight. Freyja with accusation of Bogue she is traitor.

Mikumo questions what is Freyja motivation and telling her to comfort Hayate. However Mirage beat her to the punch. Mirage relating how she felt with her first kill fighting fighting an Anti-UN group. Freyja is at the background contemplating.

Yes people the love triangle is forming.

Keith in this episode is blood thirsty. They had to retreat as it is affecting Heinz badly. Later Keith brings Heinz outside to show him the reason why they fight. Showing him a crater bristling with energy. The doom of Windermere.

Post credits Captain Johnson presents an operation to Vordor. An infiltration one it seems. Preview has Mirage in a disguise.

well makina & reina talk about some sort of shielding to the drones.

It's possible. That might explain why Windermereans are more likely to be disgruntled or rebel, perhaps because they were more educated and in more of a position to know the truth of any situation they entered into with the N.U.G.?

or perhaps they already has planet wide government as kingdom and dont like UNG republic/presidency form of government.

so where the battle part? we only saw the city island part. perhaps the clamshell just been jetisoned in orbit or before landing?

I wonder wether vajra can be affected by var? besides, where are they now?

if winderemerean can control vajra, thats huge problem

Familiarity is one reason for the use of the SV-52. We don't know who all was on the Megaroad, however it could quite well be former Anti-UN forces, SV otaku, or a dozen other valid reason such as even economic. We know for example with Frontier why they have the Macross Quarter and a whole squadron of the VF-25 Messiahs was due to SMS financing the fleet. Following Space War I, we have to consider that many of the Megaroads were sent out in less than ideal circumstances and with less back up than the later Macross # fleets. This means they can and will take what they could get to provide additional back up. Not to mention Another thing to consider is they probably left with a few SV-52's but along the way developed new fighters. We've seen such to a degree in Macross 7 and Macross Frontier, where each fleet takes existing designs and fleshes them out to suit themselves and/or develop new ones of their own such as Macross Galaxy with the VF-27 using the data they get from NUNS. But all things point that the ship that arrived at Windermere was using SV variants. Which we have already seen one other then the Draken III thanks to the photographs show in this episode. So we are well aware of older SV's existing that aren't 51/52's. Which this shows that they have been producing other SV's for some time.

In fact everything points to the fact that once the Megaroad arrived they shared their SV's with the Windermerian's since they had officially shown to have a flying squadron of their Knights in older SV/VF's. Which means then once they had their war of independence they usurped the production lines and kept them for themselves and continued to further develop them on their own. My point being that in all likely hood, the Megaroad that arrived on Windermere was primarily using SV variants and not the usual VF's. Thus the production lines for the Draken and it's ilk all hailed from the SV-51's, giving us a contiguous progression of two separate transformable mecha fighter lines. The VF's and their YF prototypes and then the rival line of the SV's of which the Draken III is current reigning king of. I will throw a guess and say that the fighters we see in the photographs are probably the previous SV unit the Draken II. But in all likely hood, Windermere colonizing Megaroad was more SV predominant than VF.

However, it may be nothing more than idiological, the Windermerian's may just have simply chosen to accept the SV nomenclature for no other reason than the fact that it represented Anti-UN sentiments. Of course then though this implies that they bothered to read up on Earth history some how and chose to purposely go with such an vague obscure reason...

perhaps that megaroad crewed by former anti-UN and somehow they managed to influenced the king to secede.

unite as stellar republic 2.0. isn't that UNG is the embrio of stellar republic 2.0? UNG already reach almost the whole galaxy. perhaps if there are common enemy from other galaxy the planets would unite to defend against that threat. just like spacewar 1 when earth is united cause of threat from zentradi

I do wonder if the dimensional barrier on Windermere is similar to the Ouroboros aurora where there are fold faults.

If so NUNS can't make a first strike as it negates fold drives... Unless Chaos has Fold Dimensional Resonance System on their VF-31s. As the VF-31 was based on the YF-30.

perhaps they can call the vajra to open that barrier, just like on frontier ep 25

Ragna and Windemere never had a choice in alien intervention. I see Windremere and Ragna like Native Americans and Polynesians who werr visited by colonizers. No matter the intenition Spacy had bearing down on primitives is going to have severe consrquences. Windemerians probably see their own culture disappearing and assimilating to the Aliens. "uplifiting" is a more modern term of colonization.

ragna seems dont have grudge on NUNS/UNG like the winderemerean. why? is there some effects caused by the "uplifting" that make winderemere secede? or in this case they think they only regain their independence from UNG