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  1. From the knees up it's a completelly new design.

    - Hips on the design follow the look of the Scoria and Grimlock hips, the proto has a Gundam style skirt like the Giga one (down to having a side skirt that neither Scoria or Grimlock have).

    - Abs and lower torso proportions have been changed.

    - Chest has completely changed shape. Before it wanted to look like the G1 toy now looks like the Giga pecs.

    - Shoulders have been moved forward a lot.

    - Upper arms are small now.

    - Forearms are bigger now.

    - All that change from "artistic idealism" to "physical reality" and yet the lower legs are practically 100% the same; they just trim the exterior part that creates the slope for the neck (slope that Giga also has).

    You could say they stuck their dino kibble storing lower legs into a thinner version of the Giga design.

  2. Fantoys keeps running scared I see. They do a 180º on that line art they put up for preorder months ago and try to copy the Gigapower design :lol:

    What happened to having your own creative vision? We have three Predakings but at least they all look different.

    But Gigapower should really hurry up and show their other dinobots... Fantoys needs something to copy for their last two dinobots :lol:

  3. Seems like the witch-hunt has already begun over on Robotech.com, at least informally.

    They've got a few fans on the Kickstarter thread over there starting in the with the "if you're speaking critically of Harmony Gold, you must be supporting those lying, baby-eating Macross purists"... unironically. It seems like the hunt is on for someone to blame for a spectacular and highly visible failure.

    Can't they just blame EXO like we do here? (He actually wanted the KS to succeed so maybe he jinxed it... :p )

  4. MP-3 is superior to MP-11 in pretty much everyway.

    I've seen nothing but frothing over the new MP SpaceBrick, but has anyone looked at the MP-11 legs?

    Bricks!

    Kawamori did it right, sometimes perfect animation robot, is a fool hearted attempt.

    Really wish they had designed a real new mold for MP-11 and not just the old preKawamori proto from MP-03. They got rid of the Kawamori side skirts but the new stability of the MP-11 legs SUCKS. That toy needs the ankle tilts. The transformation by today standarts is very simple.

  5. Thanks Twoducks but I really like the Fansproject design cues and I love the M3 head sculpt which is something most companies get wrong. And I also love the car choices for the limb bots. The only thing I would buy in an instant would be a M3 in G2 colors. :D From what I heard this is highly unlikely.

    A different topic: Is there a release date for Toyworlds Black Orion. Most places either don't have it listed or are not up to date on the release date.

    :lol: if you want to go hunting for Con exclusives you might get your wish actually:

    http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/994042-fansproject-exclusive-kar-krash-ler-01-columpio-g2-breakdown-diaclone-sludge.html

    I have M3. Looks great. You already know that the car limbs just plug there but the rest is really neat. People call Diesel a nightmare to tranform but compared to some of the complex valks it is a piece of cake. It just takes time. I find ransforming it very fun. Posability isn't that great on the legs (weak ankles) and some parts like to unlock.

  6. I keep looking at the Fasproject M3 set and really feel the urge to get it. The price is a bit steep and I have to wait for another month due to the YF-30 and VF-25G Tornado Parts. I really loved the Stunticons as a kid. I only had three of them and no Motormaster and always wondered why they are so similar. The new Hasbro Menasor looks ok but I can't get over the fact that Wildrider is missing because this one was my favorite of the ones I had.

    Maybe I will only get the Hasbro one. :unsure:

    There is also a very G1 looking one by a new company called Bold Forms. They showed a proto on TFCon:

    https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.632677353484671.1073742110.407873945965014&type=1

  7. So many have said this kickstarter suffers from a lack of good production materials to tease, entice and inspire potential donators. Lack of transformable mecha is often rising to the top of the complaints. I don't necessarily disagree, but I'm curious; what type of transforming mecha would Robotech fans actually like? I mean, is there ANY design that would please the Robotech fans and appeal to modern audiences? I'm not being an ass here, I'm genuinely curious what fans believe that mecha would be. Are we talking a valkyrie? Are we talking Mospeada? Are we talking original? And what style would it be? The original stuff is all Japanese and all 25+ years old, so how exactly would that work?

    As a mecha fan beyond just Macross, I've been into a vast array of Japanese mechanical design for decades. Beyond my own tastes, Japanese mecha as a whole has gone through several generations of trends and styles since Macross (which was itself a very innovative style shift for the time). Gundam, Five Star Stories, Patlabor, Evangelion, Escaflowne, Full Metal Panic, Ghost in the Shell, Gurren Lagann, Zone of The Enders, Super Robot Wars, Another Century's Episode, etc. But Robotech has no design lineage for the past 25 years. No progression. There's retro or there's start from scratch. Nothing in between.

    So, where does one go?

    Attempt to recapture the magic of Macross without the Macross?

    If the design is too retro then it would be dated. How then would Robotech Academy attract modern viewers with such dated material? I suppose the answer is it wouldn't. What most modern viewers want is not dated 1985-era mecha designs.

    Attempt to design all new mecha with a modern aesthetic?

    Who does Harmony Gold have attached to Robotech Academy with qualifications even remotely approaching such a requirement? You can't design current fictional mecha if you don't even know anything about current fictional mecha design. Which I guess explains the mechanical designs Robotech Academy has released thus far.

    If the post-SDF Macross mecha of the Macross franchise don't appeal to Robotech fans, then what can they realistically hope for in any Robotech sequel? I mean, how do you design a mecha for a consumer base with 30-year-old tastes and still attract young audiences? I'm genuinely curious to know what Robotech fans think a good, fitting transforming mecha design would look like for something like this Robotech Academy kickstarter project. What would that be?

    I find the lack of mecha designs as the biggest symptom this was hugely halfassed. Only ten days left and they only show a single plane mode???

    Like you say, it would not be easy to please fans but the mecha designs were an important foundation stone for this project. This was their opportunity to chuck out a whole bunch of hybrids of planes and mospeada traits or completely new ideas. That would have gotten fans involved. The Kickstarter system would have allowed them to experiment with different design aesthetics to see what people felt made sense by voting on a bunch of them. HG could have turned a weakness into a strength.

    Instead they are too freaking scared to even show one single robot. Pretty much they set themselves up for fail by dilating showing the mecha designs. No way can that stand up to the expectations created.

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