USMCBebop

Great Pix! I watched the Blues perform every year from 1986 to 1999. I never grew tired of watching them. They made me proud to be a United States Marine!

They [writers] really screwed the pooch on this one by making it a TNG ep.

Don't blame the writers, B & B wrote These Are The Voyages not them.

Well, all the same, whoever wrote Big E, whether "B & B" or the writer of the SW Holiday Special all these seasons, killed the show! All freakos!

They didn't even have the decency to write a stirring speech for Archer to read during the openinng ceremonies of the federation. Wasn't that what everything was leading up to?

That's exactly what I was expecting [Federation founding].

All these (Enterprise) characters had potential. It's too bad we had writers who had their heads up their a**es who did the show.

Again, I love my TNG characters, but it was lame making them steal the thunder from the Big E characters. Every other Trek finale did okay without help from the other incarnations.

Man, I knew there was a reason I drifted away from watching Enterprise. The finale was pure B.S. I like CDR Riker and Deanna Troi, but come on! this ain't their show. They [writers] really screwed the pooch on this one by making it a TNG ep. Like Ms. Jolene Blalock of shooting the final ep, "It's apalling." Exactly what we got!

I'm not sure if this scene will make the final cut.

LoL! I always imagined Mace Windu cursing when mauling a couple of droids or when he confronting Tyrannus/Dooku, "Party's over Mutha f***a!"

Read the first reply, it is from JMS, creator of Babylon 5

Is this for real? Someone who actually has talent and clout and sci-fi cred wants to save trek? Not those B&B hacks? If it's true, Paramount should be calling him right about.....now.

It's probably wishful thinking and with the politics in the studios, it's a long shot.

Jedi's will die...is that a spoiler??

Yoda will die!

. . .while Berman was using the 'seven of nine' effect to draw in veiwers. Unfortunately this means that the only thing that really makes Voyager and Enterprise really different is the title and the cast.

Once again, Berman burns the ship 

Like I posted earlier, that "Seven of Nine" effect don't do you anygood if you have a poorly written story.

It's sad what's happening to Trek. Again, maybe it's time for another hiatus.

WHY OH WHY is it that the prequels of the most popular science fiction franchises aren't fairing so well?

I personally enjoyed the Star Wars prequels (and can't wait for the final one). As you know, a lot of SW fandom don't share my optimism or take it at face value like I do.

I'm a big Trek fan too. But the writers are what is killing ( or should I say have killed) the "Big E."

Either someone's run out of ideas, the fans expect more or both!

Maybe it's time for another Star Trek hiatus. Hell, it won't hurt it (it didn't from 1969 to '79).

Hiatus has worked for Star Wars. (True, they [prequels] can never "live up" to the original trilogy, and half the SW fandom, don't like the prequels, but at least they're not as horrid as whatever is happening to the ST franchise.)

Jolene Blaylock was in Playboy(not naked ). She did the 20 question interview and she said that this season will most likely be the last. Oh well the show sucked and Star Trek needs to go away for awhile until they can come up with something watchable. Instead of throwing out half assed sequels.

I like Ms. Blalock, but the problem is, someone thought the "chick in the cat suit" (ala 7 of 9 of the last series) deal is what draws viewers, WRONG ANSWER!

Chicks in catsuits and great special effects should only be frosting on the cake. The writers are the ones that make or break the stories.

It's too bad that this [Enterprise] one might die a painful death. That's not a very pleasing way to go.

Macross Opening Song

MACROSS SDF TV Remake, Better animation and CG...Would it work?

Get off the crack pipe!

To quote Darth Vader, "Most Impressive."

Sniff, sniff!

I can't believe the Tomcat is leaving

Anyone know if the extras will contain all (if not most of) the scenes that ended up on the cutting room floor?  It would be nice to see Luke "Wormy" Skywalker with his pals at Anchorhead and what they were like.  Or see the Snowtroopers get mauled by the captured wampa!

no it doesnt have the deleted scenes re-added i myself would have wanted to see the supposed scene where luke is on dagobah training and slices up trees, etc.

You're kidding, right? What's the matter, George too stingy about us seeing those lost treasures?

Now then, who wants to see one of the biggest changes to the OT? I'm referring to the addition of Ian McDiarmid to The Empire Strikes Back, of course! Say goodbye to the old Chimp-lady.

It's about friggin' time! I was expecting that to happen with the Episode V Special Edition back in 1997. Finally!

Anyone know if the extras will contain all (if not most of) the scenes that ended up on the cutting room floor? It would be nice to see Luke "Wormy" Skywalker with his pals at Anchorhead and what they were like. Or see the Snowtroopers get mauled by the captured wampa!

Actually, AFAIK Maverick's plane was from VF-51, while Iceman's was from VF-111.  And I believe most carrier scenes are actually of the Ranger.  Just off the top of my head.

err, several of the launch sequences from the opening show tomcats with NH (CAW-11, then stationed on the big E) stenciled on the tailfins.. and then it mentions the USS Enterprise- "present day" (early 1980s) the actual planes that flew in their place at Miramar may have actually been that, but during the opening part of the movie, Maverick is from the VF-213 Black Lions.

What's more, all missile shots filmed in the final dogfight were done by the VF-114 Fighting Aardvarks (IIRC they had JUST given up their nose-stripes), you can again plainly see the "NH" and "VF-114" in several shots.

Not that we should really be giving this any great deal of thought... TopGun certainly doesn't work very hard to be consistent in their action footage.

That's affirmative on the CVW-11 a/c being shown in "Top Gun." I think they were stock footage shot by both the Navy and the producers

And there WAS a few seconds of brief footage of the VF-1 moving around on a carrier deck and aircraft being launched with NL (CAW-15, then stationed on the Ranger), but very little.

Actually CVW-15 was with the U.S.S. Carl Vinson CVN-70 at the time (also one of three carriers used in the movie!). And VF-1 was with CVW-2 with Ranger.

I find it funny that in a day and age were air-to air combat is so unlikely, especially anything other than BVR, people are so concerned about a little paint.

Unlikely, but not impossible. When they designed the F4H-1/F-4 Phantom II back in the fifties, I'm sure they said the samething. Hell, they designed it without an internal gun! Boy were they wrong a few years later in Vietnam!

Lo-viz isn't just for the fighter roles, but for the attack roles aswell. As the Blue Angel narration says, "Now that Blue Angels five and six has got your attention, you have witnessed the ability of a small aircraft to enter a target area virtually UNDETECTED." Sure it's nice blue paint and going real fast, but imagine that in lo-viz? It will be too late before you notice.

Yes, it would be nice to be nice to see those gray and white Navy birds once again, but tactical reasons will make that unlikely.

wasn't the aircraft carrier used in this movie the "nimitz" or at least some of the stock footage of her? i heard kawamori visited & spent time on the nimitz studying the tomcats & watching how they moved to get background info for the valks.jolly-roger squad was serving on her at that time,so hence our roy valk's appearance.only makes sense that he probably saw the vf-1 on 1 of the pilots helmets & decided to use it too

Negative, the movie you are referring to is 1980's "The Final Countdown" where the Nimitz traveled back to December 1941. VF-84 was featured in the movie. VF-41 was shown briefly too.

my dad took me to see topgun in the theaters in '84.i think that was the hey-day of jollyroger squad & nimitz.

See above. Also "Top Gun" was 1986.

From what ive been told and please dont quote me on it that VFA-174 will be the new RAG Squadron but seeing how it isnt in writting yet it will more than likely change. <--- change almost as much as satanic markings on aircraft. Navy doesnt want them but what would VFA-103, VFA-2 have as an official mascot or insignia?

No more skulls..which in a way kinda sucks. I can see it now for the Jollys a nice pirate with a parrot. and for the Hunters i can see some guy chasing a prison inmate.. doesnt make sence but then again neither to pollitics

You gotta be kidding me! Don't tell me this is another Political Correctness issue like it was for the Playboy bunny being painted on VX-4 F-14s and one of the Marine VMAQ squadrons .

Sad to see the tomcat go out. Its amazing that all the modex numbers you guys are talking about the 100 series are now the modex of the Grim Reapers RAG Squadron but sadly as of Sept of this year VF-101 will be no more.

So who's going to be the east coast FRS for the Super Bug? No ne? Will VFA-122 be handling all Super Bug quals?

the VF-1 *did* get some screentime in the movie. There are one or two carrier shots on board the USS Ranger where the VF-1 tomcats can be seen. They also get screentime at NAS Miramar on the ground.

Thanks, I forgot all about that. I don't remember them on the CV/CVN scenes though. I do however remember the Miramar flight scenes now that you've refreshed my memory. It was right before Maverick crashed his F-14.

The designation on Goose's helment is even stranger when you take into account that during that part of the movie, they were more likely from the VF-213 "Black Lions" (whilst Cougar and his RIO were operating out of the VF-114 "Fighting Aardvarks")

I won't go into my formula for how I figured this out here... if you REALLY wanna know, PM me and I'll explain it.

I can guess the Black Lion "formula." The first exterior scene of Mav and Goose's F-14 shows a modex (nose) number of "203." The Black Lions at the time were the 200 series for CVW-11 off the Enterprise and the styling (font) of number is consistent with the VF-213 A/C of the time (mid-80's).

you figured me out....

and as "Cougar" was ghostrider "one one seven", he would've had to have been a part of the "fighting aardvarks"

Another trivia, for most of the Miramar and Fallon scenes, the A/C were from VF-51 and VF-111 of CVW-15.

the VF-1 *did* get some screentime in the movie. There are one or two carrier shots on board the USS Ranger where the VF-1 tomcats can be seen. They also get screentime at NAS Miramar on the ground.

Thanks, I forgot all about that. I don't remember them on the CV/CVN scenes though. I do however remember the Miramar flight scenes now that you've refreshed my memory. It was right before Maverick crashed his F-14.

The designation on Goose's helment is even stranger when you take into account that during that part of the movie, they were more likely from the VF-213 "Black Lions" (whilst Cougar and his RIO were operating out of the VF-114 "Fighting Aardvarks")

I won't go into my formula for how I figured this out here... if you REALLY wanna know, PM me and I'll explain it.

I can guess the Black Lion "formula." The first exterior scene of Mav and Goose's F-14 shows a modex (nose) number of "203." The Black Lions at the time were the 200 series for CVW-11 off the Enterprise and the styling (font) of number is consistent with the VF-213 A/C of the time (mid-80's).

I'm glad its in limbo. Give other, more exciting heroes a chance. Hell, I'd watch a movie about Aquaman before Supes ...

Good point. Hell, Supes has been in live action far too many times. I like Supes, but some other hero needs to take a shot in the (live action) spotlight that hasn't been re-done to death.