LOL, I acutally have always been disgusted by the horroble stupid things that happened in SDF-Macross, like the giant trukey legs, Hikaur flying in space and sheilded from the -40 kelvin vacum by his scarf... <_< Or how about flying aircraft carriers... <_< Those were lame too. I always loved SDF-M despite these things, but when DYRL came out I was so happy, it was Macross all over again without all the lame sh|t. Then seeing M+ and even M2, I was still pretty happy with the minimal amount of retardedness... That is untill M7.