the white drew carey

Who the heck owns the DYRL license outside Japan? Wasn't there an official US release of DYRL? What happened to that?

Last I heard Best Films had the license, but that was awhile ago and now everyone is unsure who put it out.

One thing we're positive of, HG never got to lay a hand on it.

I think you misinterpret HG's argument.  HG can't claim rights to the designs, the Feb02 ruling made that much clear.  The reason they block DYRL? valks is because they are based on a derivative of SDF Macross. 

Ummm, you know that's not true. The TV valks are associated with the TV series and are connected with that license. The DYRL valks are associated with DYRL and are connected to the DYRL license (something HG has never been able to prove that they have the rights to), which is in limbo. If HG's claims were true, they could simply claim the license to DYRL without even having to locate whoever is the current license holder, especially since the status of the DYRL license is uncertain, they wouldn't have to fight someone for it (such as they would have to do if they ever attempted to lay claim to MacII or Mac+ from Manga).

BW and Yamato could very well sell the toys with a different name on them.  Back in the 80's the Transformer Jetfire sold with the exact same design as a VF-1S and there wasn't a big stink about it from HG.

I had thought that the reason HG couldn't make a stink about Jetfire is because Hasbro legally licensed the toy and released it under different name under a different product line (heh... kind of like what HG did to Macross).

Hmmm... I think this is the real reason why HG couldn't do anything about DYRL, MacII and Mac+. Because the licenses were legally procured and HG had no reason to be involved, hence they weren't involved.

Of course that makes FASA look like they got punked for settleing a case they might have been able to win.  That is if they got the rights through the proper channels in the first place.

This is speculation, but I think the whole issue was that FASA only bought the rights from Tatsunoko to release those small Nichimo kits, but they started using the mecha designs with their gaming miniatures and also started using the images, neither of which they had the rights to. This is why they could no longer sell the miniatures and ended up redesigning those mecha.

I wouldn't call HG releasing Macross 7 Trash exactly backing off.

I may eat my words on this, but all I've seen is the press release from TokyoPop, which simply mentions HG's version of history with Macross, but in no way indicates any actual involvement. Also, when asked, someone at HG said that they were "cooperating". Now, "cooperating" can mean many things, including going along with things because you really have no choice (kind of what we all do when the Police bust us for Slurpee smuggling). If HG was involved with the release of Trash I'd think they'd have more exciting things to say about it.

As far as BW saying that DYRL? isn't a derivative of SDF Macross, that's a very difficult case to make.  It'd be very hard to deny that the very existance of the movie was because of the popularity of the show.

This statement is based on the assumption that HG does, in fact, hold the rights to the derivatives outside of Japan. A statement that they have not only failed to prove, but have outright refused to prove.

But, to respond to your statement, I don't think BigWest HAS ever said that DYRL isn't a derivative of Macross. But it IS a different license, which Tatsunoko and, hence, HG, have never had any claim to.

Furthermore- (once again) Tatsunoko has never, ever, tried to lay any claim to any Macross production or make any beef with BigWest licensing other Macross shows except for the original TV Series. Kind of makes you curious why HG thinks they can... especially (once again) since they've never legitimately proven that their claims are true.

p.s.- Your sig: "It's useless to discuss until someone's posted a complete translation. Hey, you haven't posted one."

That's your beef. Quadrono posted one that you claim wasn't accurate, yet have still failed to convince everyone else that it was wrong.

I guess it can't be helped that this series will also end up looking more advanced than the originals...

That's kinda my point about Macross zero, how realistic is it that all the mechs appear more advanced than those from the original series that came after them?

Another example of this is Gundam 0080: War In The Pocket vs. Gundam 0079. The MS in 0080 look waaaay more advanced than 0079, but it's still supposed to be taking place in (roughly) the same timeframe.

The newer animation will always look more advanced than the older. Just use your imagination, for Pete's (wicked ale) sake.

Here's a question I previously posted on the old forums:

If Harmony Gold is so secure about the Macross brand, shouldn't they be equally secure about the Robotech brand? For example, there's an Australian-based machine firm called Robotech Pty. Ltd.. Then there's Spectrum Products, a company that sells swimming pool cleaning products such as their Robotech 3000 and Robotech 3200 pool vacuum cleaners.

Are these companies paying HG royalties for using the word Robotech on their products? If not, why hasn't HG filed copyright infringement lawsuits against them?

Simple, they're attempting to block direct competition by using certain tactics in order to stall or scare off any companies that may provide that competition.

Seriously, though- Harmony Gold has trademarked the Robotech name, but, as Wrylac has said, they aren't pursuing other companies who use the name, but are not, in any way, in the same market.

But you can bet your bottom dollar that if I started a company that made pool cleaning products and named them the Macross 3000 and the Macross 3200, Harmony Gold would be on my case in seconds.

...What a horrible concept: Macross 3000 pool cleaners... Ugh.

Nah, IMO it looks more like an Armored Core (AC) mech, which considering that Kawamori designs all the mecha for AC is hardly suprising.

Graham

Ditto. My first thought was "Armored Core?!?"

I thiink it was erroneously left out of the Conventions and Local Gatherings forum.

Why doesn't someone leave a message in the feedback forum, I'm sure it'll be addresses once things get a little less hectic for the Admins and Mods.

I've usually seen them for between $25 and $45 on eBay.

Awww man... I thought they were going to be original designs. Not cut-and-pastes.

Damn yer eyes, man!!! Damn them!!!

Just kidding.

We should ask a long-standing member who plans on staying for a while (or a willing Mod) to actually make the first post in a pinned iMacross server thread. That way, they can constantly edit their 1st post (much to Agent ONE's chagrin ) to reflect the most up to date info on the currently running servers.

That way, us users won't have to peruse through pages and pages of posts just to find what's up and what's not.

I'm also stoopid with FTP. Lebhead told me how to do it and pointed me to a good FTP client (is that what you call it), but I accidentally deleted it and now I don't remember anything.

Dumb-dumb Jeff.

Wrylac's right. For all intents and purposes, Yamato could have their toys manufactured in a factory right next to the Harmony Gold headquarters in California.

The whole thing really revolves around where the item is licensed to be sold to the public. In Yamato's case, it's Japan. In Harmony Gold's case it's North America.

Definitely, the picts need to go. It was a rule on the old board, should be continued here.

Vostok 7

Ditto in the shnizzito...

Name: Jeff

Age: 28

Height: 5' 11"

Weight: 180-185

Physique: Body of a runner with the belly of beer drinker

Location: Penn State

Marital Status: Married... damnit.

Favorite Band: Lagwagon

Favorite Author: Terry Pratchett

Awww... you know what you need?

Some

Isn't that Monica Belluci (Persephone) doing the voiceover work?

The voice-over work is by wossname... Ummm, the Oracle. Crap! I can't remember her name!!! (so much for honoring the dead! I can't beleive I've forgotten it!!! )

Do a web search and you'll get here name.

My biggest laugh was when people were whining and moaning once the extended edition of FOTR came out and they had already bought the first edition... EVEN THOUGH IT WAS WIDELY ADVERTISED THAT THERE WOULD BE TWO DIFFERENT RELEASES WAY BACK IN FEBRUARY!!!

People make me laugh.

I accidentally hit "null vote", but I meant to select the extended edition choice (because, as per Peter Jackson, it is not a "director's cut", since that implies what was shown in the theater is not what he wanted to release).

Actually, I'm new here.

What? There was a guy on the old boards named the white drew carey?!? What a coincidence!

Another good idea is, once your done, fiddle around with a nice gaussian blur filter. If you find the happy medium, it'll clean up any pixelation without becoming too blurry.

No. Some ISPs have shared IPs... so if you ban one, you ban everyone that uses that ISP. Example... AOL, everyone has the same IP.

I think the mods simply blocked the members from using the boards.

Ahhhh... That makes sense.

Oh well. We'll just have to wait and see if any of the banned come knocking. But then again, due to the anonymity of the web, they could completely slip by and none of us would ever be the wiser.

I'll file that under "Things that make you go hmmm."

Although I had no problem at all with Reloaded, overall it didn't have the feel of the first. Revolutions will either complete the storyline, making all three a complete trilogy that works, or it will portray all three in a different light.

We'll see.

OK... I may be wrong here, but didn't the Mods simply block the offending party's IP or something like that? If so, and Invision has the same capability, I wouldn't be surprised if it's already been done.

But, then again, what's so wrong with Yo-Yo's?

This thread is to revive the Newbie Questions thread. basically, it's the one and only place for inquiries about Macross information. From "What happened to the Macross after the TV series?" to "How many kids did Max and Millia have, and how did she stay so slim and trim?"

I'll start things off with answering and oft-asked question:

KAWAMORI HAS STATED THAT THERE WILL BE NO MORE HIKARU/MISA/MINMAY STORIES!!! For all intents and purposes, the Megaroad went bye-bye. Transmission was lost. Kaput.

Ahem... Now, feel free to knock yerselves out.

God... I love that SDF-1.

By that token....how do we know you're really Abombz (as if there wasn't enough confusion before)? For all we know...you're just a sock for Wrylac or BoK!

That would be the ultimate dishonor... Wrylac or BOK usurping Abombz moniker!

I'd have to disagree BSU. The thread was already pretty quiet even before the troll twins were banned.

Whether you liked or disliked that thread, you'll have to admit that it was a good containment unit and did it's job admirably of keeping the ownership and licensing debates out of everywhere else. By keeping it in one place, those who didn't want to bother with the issue simply didn't have to go there.

But I can guarantee you that if a new licensing thread isn't put in place, "when and if" anything new happens, threads will start popping up all over the place. Cluttering the boards and making more work for the Mods.

p.s.- But I am also with Abombz on this one: The Longest Thread should be brought back. Although there were several people who misused that thread, overall it was a lot of fun and gave MWers a place to just talk about goofy crap.

Will this thread be revived in a controlled format as before? I'm just curious because if it isn't posted and pinned by someone in authority, threads regarding this subject will start to populate the boards as before. It might be a good idea to nip any possibility in the bud and start a new thread now, even though there is no late-breaking news as of yet, in order to curtail any rampant posting if and when something new does come up.

Just an idea.