MacrossJunkie

EDIT: The VF-25 in the lower images are of Michael's G. So it appears the RVF and G variants will also sport this new holes/attachment points.

Ugh, I really hope not. I think most people, including me, would not be putting the full armor on them and having all those holes kind of ruins the look even further.

They ought to take a few pages out of Yamato's book on adding accessories by attaching them in inconspicuous places (difficult to see the clips for YF-21 fast packs), using holes that were already in the design (booster attachment to backpack of 1/48 VF-1 or YF-19 shoulder armor), using magnets (leg armor on YF-19 or VF-0), design to automatically hide the hole (spring loaded cover for the hole that the back of VF-1 leg armor plugs into) or having things to plug the holes when you are not displaying with accessories on (plug piece for booster rockets on SV-51 wings or the plugs for the holes that attach the fold booster on the YF-21).

These are the only SOCs I've got and likely the only ones I will have in the foreseeable future. All my toy money is tied up in Macross

But I still love these things. I only wish they had made the mass production EVAs with the wings to complete the set.

I looked at the Rebuild versions and while I thought the removable armor was neat, I don't think I like the look of the new ones as much.

With the clip on missiles and speakers and having to do a retooled release of the DX with extra holes to accommodate the new armor pack, I kind of get the feeling that Bandai didn't really plan ahead when they designed the DXs.

The cockpits seem fine in size, as they seem pretty much in proportion with the rest of the plane. It's just that the pilots are sometimes too big or wide.

I say let him do this to get the crazy ideas out of his system before he works on the next Macross project, like he did with Aquarion. Otherwise we'll see custom valkyries in sneakers and doing slam dunk attacks against some sort of protoculture sports team that was deemed too dangerous to be allowed loose in the galaxy and were sealed away for many millennia until a UN expedition accidentally frees them.

99.08:1 today. *rubs hands together greedily*

Vostok 7

Hopefully it should continue to rise. I read an article on cnn or somewhere that mentioned how the US dollar's strength is improving due to people starting to see it as comparatively stable vs other currencies. It mentioned that since the US was the first to fall, it would be among the first to recover. In comparison, Japan will likely recover much later.

I miss the exchange rate back when the 1/48s first came out. It was around 120:1

Even in the 1/60 YF-19, it's a very cramped fit also and they had to remove part of the feet to get him to fit. I think the 1/60 Macross Plus pilots seem to be proportionally bulkier overall compared to the other pilots they've made. Though I guess Guld is excused since his flight suit was kinda bulky to begin with, especially his BDI helmet.

Comparing them to the Macross Zero pilots, the helmet, arms and legs on Isamu are way thicker. Isamu seems to have gained a lot of weight when he scaled up to 1/60 from 1/72

And here's the better view of the cockpit taken from Yamato's site.

Edit:

Attached the close up of the VF-11b escape pod.

Amen to that! My VF-25F already looks battle weary from all the paint scratches--- I'm actually thinking of weathering it to make it look used

Would it help to spray a layer of clearcoat over the toy to help with the paint rubbing off or will it just come right off also due to the smoothness of the plastic? Anyone tried?

Paint rubbing off is a major annoyance to me as I care about how my stuff looks and so I would like to try to prevent the wear from just normal handling if it's possible when I eventually get mine.

No packing using ruptured bags of syphilis? Dang.

But seriously, I don't see the draw of styrofoam packing. Is it just because it's old school or is there some actual benefit to it vs the molded plastic packaging like what Yamato uses?

If past releases are any indication, I don't think it will be easy to wear off the insignia on the heat shield. Yamato's paint applications and tampo prints on plastic parts seem very durable and are sometimes a pain to remove when you're trying to.

I was just talking about a practical design point of view, i don't even want to mess with whats canon or not.

But about DYRL being a movie made within the Macross universe, depicting the events of the 1st Space War, this is what i don't get and why i don't wanna touch what is canon or not with a 10 ft pole:

If we follow the "DYRL movie" assumption, then its based on SDF Macross wich is the real story in wich the movie is based.

The diferent SDF-1 is based on the 2012 refit of the ship. OK. What about the rest? The Zentradi (Bretai, Exedore, Bodolza,etc.) are very diferent in DYRL from their "real" counterparts. That could be justified as the DYRL movie producers wanting to give the audience scarier "bad guys". (The Zentradi in SDFM looked silly, admit it, Exedore's hair cut alone makes me clench my teeth). But in the subsequent series, wich are part of the same reality in wich DYRL was just a movie (Plus, 7 and Frontier) the Zentradi look the same as in the "movie" DYRL.

See where what is canon and what is not makes me wanna shoot myself?

Yamato's SDF-1 will make all this irrelevant because when it comes out, IT will be real and all else will be sweet anime fiction, and we will all bow before its 1/20000 magnificence and drool...

Sorry, since i found out this was coming out and started having sweet mecha-porn, 1/20000 plastic awesomeness filled dreams, i think i lost all capacity to old a coherent line of thought. Does it show?!

As Kawamori has been quoted, "The real Macross is out there somewhere. If I tell the story in the length of a TV series, it looks one way, and if I tell it as a movie-length story, it's organized another way."

The way I understand it, the continuity is based on what happened in the TV series but with the character designs of DYRL replacing what you saw in the series. For example, you can consider Exsedol having micronized as shown in series but looking as he did in DYRL, bumpy head and all. Sometime in the space between the original series and Macross 7, he returned to his original size.

You have one to many zeros in your scale. 1/20000 would make the SDF-1 about 2.6 inches long

I'm glad Yamato was able to keep the fighter mode looking pretty sleek despite the landing gear bay being in relatively the same area as the 19. Supposedly, the landing gear made it necessary to make the 19's gullet so big, but it doesn't seem to be the case here.

ARMORED VF-25!!!! YES!!!

Now I am wondering if I should cancel my Luca order to get this instead?!?!?! I cant afford both. Damn. I hope the final sculpt looks good.

You've still got another few months after luca comes out for the armored 25 to be released. If you can save up enough in those months then keep the luca order. Otherwise, I guess it's up to you which you want more.

I hope some actual pics of the armored 25 become available soon. It might make it easier for people to decide.

Nice, I had a strong feeling they would release it as a bundle eventually so that made it easier to hold off on the 25S (that and the crappy head lasers).

I hope "new detail design" means there's some cosmetic improvements as well.

I kinda like these new stands and that vf-11b is looking pretty good on the stand.

Was there some definite pricing given?

And up close, you can see the joints.

That's the Ex-gear "action figure".

Ah you're right, thanks. I was so focused on trying to figure out what sort of mecha it was that it didn't occur to me that it could have been the ex-gear.

And I guess I somehow missed a few pages in the thread. The full shot of the DX looks incredible. The gun and deck seems disproportionately ginormous though. I don't recall them being that big when the Quarter is in attack mode. I think it's partially contributed to what it seems to me that the legs appear bit shorter than normal and so the gun and stuff just seem that much bigger. Since this is a prototype being held together with hot glue, the parts of the leg that need to be extended are probably just unable to do so. So the legs are probably good already.

The carrier shot seems just right so maybe there's some shrinkage that happens in the animation regarding the gun and deck? In terms of looks, I actually don't care they if they are too big, my only concern is if the final toy will be able to hold that stuff up and if it would be able to holster a deck that size.

Overall I'm really impressed with what they have here so far I really want this thing as opposed to how I felt about the DX VF-25s where I felt they were "meh" throughout their development cycle and final product.

Here's a pic I took, it lets you see the ratchets:

EDIT: after ages in the test forum, I managed to succeed.

Going by first impressions, I'm actually quite impressed with that prototype. It looks pretty good. How big would you say this was in person?

Also, what's that mecha in the poster behind the Quarter's right shoulder? It has Alto on it also, so I assume it would be frontier or at the very least macross related, but the arm and leg doesn't belong to anything I recognize. It's not a VF-25, 27, 171, Quarter, Battle Frontier, or a destroid. Nor can I think of any other previous valks that look like that.

I may be misremembering, but hadn't it been said or possibly just hinted that Yamato didn't renew their VF-X2 license or something to that effect?

Geez, up to the 4th thread already? Well, love them or hate them, you gotta admit Bandai has managed to generate a lot of talk with these.

Quin, you must have a really bad luck streak with the Yamato stuff. Sorry, man.

It seems to me in most cases with broken yammies, they have either disintegrated on their own due to bad materials used/improper assembly at the factory or someone tried too hard to move something in a way they shouldn't have, causing a piece to break (like forcing the 1/48 VF-1 backpack too high). To my recollection, there are far fewer cases where a yammie broke due to actually transforming or posing a toy. If something is going to break it likely will do so on its own with or without your help.

In my case, my original release VF-11b left hip joint disintegrated on its own within a month of having it and leaving it displayed in a sealed display case untouched. The same thing happened with my VF-0A shoulder joints. They just fell apart on their own despite having been left in fighter mode. Meanwhile, both of my first release VF-0S have no signs of stress or fractures in the gray shoulder plastic after all this time and through various poses and transformations.

I'm in agreement with Graham. If it hasn't fallen apart straight out of the box or on its own within the first few weeks of ownership, it will likely withstand proper transformations, posing, and even swooshing around the room

wtf, is there an actual Global class ship? COOL!

I take it you haven't watched through Frontier yet.

Without really spoiling anything, it's not a class, but just a Macross class vessel named Global.

A few more years and we might have some alternate options.

Graham

O.o

Is that wild conjecture, an educated speculation, or some inside knowledge?

It's probably better that I didn't ask anyway, so nevermind.

I guess that depends on how much value you put on the attributes of a toy. If you value playability over appearance, then it probably is worth it. If you value appearance more and don't plan on playing with it, then it may not seem worth it. However, if you want a version of the VF-25 that's more or less in scale with the 1/60 Yamato toys you may already have, this is really the only option as the likelihood that some other company will be able to make it is pretty much nil so if you really want a VF-25 in your collection, you'd just have to bite the bullet despite the fact you feel you're overpaying, imo.

I'm of that last category where I value the appearance more than playability as I just display the stuff I collect rather than play with them so I prefer to have the stuff look good rather than being easy and fun to transform and such. Unfortunately, I feel they made a play toy at a collector price, but that didn't stop me from buying Luca and Michael versions (they were the best looking of the bunch and came with fast packs already). I guess that just makes me a consumer whore

The figure that came with it is pretty hideous.

You're not kidding about that part.

That's a face only a drunk mother could love.