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After rewatching the last episode, I can't help but be impressed by the guts of the writers.

*Sanity has left the building*

Well one thing's for sure.....the hollywood trailer will rope in more american moviegoers than if they used the Japanese released one.

I find it interesting though that "Evangelion" in english is pronounced as EE VAN GEH LIEN. Shouldn't it be EE VAN JE LEON ? And very odd for Misato to refer to it by its full name too.

One can only hope, the empty cinema when I went to see Eva was a bit disheartening.

The common way to pronounce latin words in an english context is with the g from gender.

Maybe the voice actor had some classic training, as in scientific latin the g from gum is used.

Or more likely, they had no clue at all and just used whatever sounded best.

Oh I see now.

I damn hope that's a typo

Whoops, sure is

Just saw the Kyou alternate world story, one episode is really to little to do it justice but it was so cute. And after two friggin' seasons we finally get to see a kiss in Clannad. All it takes is a tsundere!

What?

Also, Kyou's Story is out. :'(

In real life she is famous for introducing herself to her fans with "I'm Kikoku Inoue and I'm 17 years old" while he is in her mid 40s. Sanae gets to say the same lines as her real life counterpart when she dresses up as yuhei's girlfriend.

yea, really looking forward to see the Kyou story.

They look very nice, but the 1/48 M&Ms still hold up well compared to these pics. So atm the M&M would have a lower prio for me compared to the VF-1A CF and Virgin road.

That's why the Robotech movie is going to be difficult to make... You see... Japan is one of the biggest film markets in the world. I don't think WB will risk the opportunity of releasing the movie there... That's why I believe the movie producers will have to make lots of changes to the mecha and character designs as well as the original plot...

It wouldn't matter if the movie is released in Japan or not. Copyrights are valid in both US and Japan through the Berne convention. As long as WB has tangible assets in Japan (and they have) they can be affected through Japanese courts without the need of US legal cooperation. I doubt WB would dare to touch the designs. Story wise maybe, wouldnt be to hard to create a generic alien ship crash origen story without the mention of anything Macross.

Indeed, Big West is the sole rights older of any Macross sequels or derivatives. Big West was able to obtain the unofficial sequel Macross II after establishing this fact. Maybe we should be hoping the RLAM is a Macross rip-off and that Big West can just outright take it from WB and HG like they did with Macross II!

Big West owns the Macross designs at least, see the link on the first page of this thread. BW is not an anime production company however (they act as anime sponsors, advertising is their core bussiness, the creation and management of anime projects is complex and worth a thread on its own). They had Mac II made by another production company. So it's an official Macross production and was always owned by BW.

Not just next week. The entire rest of the season will be Endless Eight over and over.

The raging that would be done.

It's starting to look like it

They could be using something as simple as telescopes. Just need to calculate where star systems will be from that info. Folds into planetary systems might need physical scouting.

Finished Clannad After Story as well now.

Well what to say...it's brilliant. Yes, it's a bit cliched at times... and yes, it is a tear jerker ... and well, you know, it's what Kyoani's best at.

The second half of the show, the gloves are off and Tomoyo dragging himself to hell is impressive. This show knows how to play on the fears of people my age.

Episode 18 is well...emotional

Some fun details:

Akiko's (Kanon) Jam meets Sanae's bread

Sanae's seiyuu: Kikoku Inoue got to do her I'm 17 routine.

Akio doing a Gurren Lagan, Kamina homage. This hot blooded maniac deserves his own mecha show!

Very nice shot of that Thunderbird's F-16.

Be it as it may be, it's precisely that "kiddie face on robots poo poo rainbow anime" envelope that prevents me from watching M7 AND ENJOYING it, and it seems I'm not the only one.

[...]you gotta admit that the points expressed by those who don't are well sustained, be it for stylistic, story-telling or jerk-guitar-piloting-singer issues.

How would you be able to judge the validity of those points raised, without having seen M7?

I'm not sure if it was realistic to expect a public apology or admission of guilt, but this seems like an attempt at damage control. Even with his reputation damaged, a fan who can translate material, is still in demand. It's unfortunate that this kind of disinformation can get out of hand due to the language barrier.

When comparing Basara to a female singer, I'm surprised the resemblance to Haruhi hasn't come up yet. Both are slightly anti social jerks with hearts of gold. Both can play a guitar and sing. Both are pretty much invincible. Could Basara have reality altering powers? hmm...

As for 7 being tailored to the youngest common denominator, each series pretty much targets the youngers of their respective generations, while being broad enough for adults. If you're going to damn the whole super robot genre as "kiddie stuff," then you're going to have a crap load of Gurren Lagann fans (including myself) on you for it. Gurren Lagann sharring a lot in common with Macross 7, swapping out singing for drills.

Gurren Lagann and M7 share a super robot theme, not the same genre. GL is postmodern, parodies and makes homages to '70s super robot shows in a clever and unconventional way, M7 is just a copy of the format, without doing any thing inventive. Even within M7 there are differences, Dynamite is more capable then the TV series to interest a broader audience. Not surprising given that SDFM and M7 were normal TV-series that had to look at ratings in a time when anime was still mostly childs fare.

Other Macross productions were OVA's/late night anime which cater to a specific audience. The target audience for anything produced after Eva can immediatly be identified if you look at the broadcasting time and format. SDFM is one of those rare exceptions that can capture a broad audience. M7-tv remains a kids show, more then any other Macross, due to it's point of view, it's repetative and simple nature. However M7 is fun and should not be ashamed for what it is.

As for super robot, there are plenty of shows around, even pre-eva, to prove that it is not just kiddie stuff. Thinking of Gunbuster, Ideon, Mazinger-Z just to name a few.

I can only imagine a LARM Veritech verus Macross Valk case would face a similar situation if WB applies their own transformation process to their Veritech designs like Bay's team did with Transformers.

Indeed, the designs won't be much of a problem. The potential issue is more with the storyline. How would they use Rick Hunter and co. without using the story of the Macross saga, which by definition is an edit of Macross, and for which they have no license to make derivative footage, LAM or otherwise.

The way I understand IP rights: the principle of a fighter transforming to a battloid and gerwalk can't be copyrighted as it's not a defined work or vidual design. The names can be trademarked, the fighter, gerwalk and battloid designs are copyrighted and the transformation mechanism can be patented. Therefore IP rights cannot prevent others from using the idea as long as the design, transformation mechanism and names differ.

If there was a live action movie about Macross, we would be arguing about the story, the actors, what the mecha looks like etc. Not weather it would be legal or not.

My fear about a succesfull LAMR is that it will recapitalize HG and re-establish Robotech at the expense of Macross. I sympathise with RT fans for wanting more material from their favourite show but aslong as HG keeps their stranglehold on Macross, I'd prefer to see all of their endeavours fail. Without further financial boosts my hope is that HG will lose interest in their anime portfolio and sell it off to a normal distributor like Bandai, ADV or Funimation.

I think the major issue bieng missed here, is that Macross 7 has all the fundamentals of any other Macross series, with the addition of rockingly aweseome Basara-ness & hot blooded passionate songs. Since every Macross incarnation takes a different direction on the main themes, I really don't see why some complain. If you didn't like it, sucks to be you, you've missed the boat on awesomeness, but Macross is still Macross.

In addition to this, I really like the explanation that Kawamori gave for the continuity issues between the different Macross anime in a recently translated article. In essence each Macross anime is a filter to which we can percieve the Macross universe. We get a distorted view due to the demands of each particular show in terms of audience and sponsors.

Macross 7 is aimed at the youngest audience of all Macross shows, is repetative and has a super robot theme. If the less serious elements bug you, just see it as a way to explain the M7 events to a 5 to 10 year old audience.

Short version of the toy issue: wiki

[...] in a horrible sci fi flick made for and by Scientologists.

hmm...tempting... I bet the LAM will then just be a remake of Top Gun with Tom Cruise and Tobey flying F18s that transform in Legioss looka likes... It wont even need a plot and the generic aliens will just be flying F5s... heck call in Faltermeier and Berlin for a retro 80s soundtrack and we got a summer blockbuster

I've started on AS, can't really wait after seeing the first series. As for finding the first series, it's licensed so very few are still uploading it. I just bought the ADV boxes, they are dirt cheap atm.

Kind of tempted to splash out on the Japanese DVD LE versions, anyone know if a Blu-ray release is likely anytime soon?

It's a bit difficult to find a decent sub atm. Mazui and Gleam are fast but both lacking in video quality and translation. Think I'll just wait till the a.f.k. ones, for the next episodes (if I can muster the patience). Other groups seemed to have given up on the project. Yuki is good video wise, but is lacking a translator, so will be slow for the time being.

Just finished Clannad. I was sort of expecting a kind of Kanon. It's somewhat similar but different, more subtle, more humor and warmer. The animation, atmosphere, directing and voice acting is top of the line. Yes, the plot is a standard crying game, but who cares, it still manages to enchant.

The bonus alternate ending with Tomoyo was sweet directing, with a few color changes and expressions, it all went from bright and hopefull to dark, grim and desperate.

First time the male lead actually had an easier time then me to pick a favourite. They are all so damn cute and lovable characters. Although Nagisa's parents absolutly steal the show.

Amazing to see that all the voice actors who did the major Kyoani series ended up in Frontier. I didn't realise before that Frontier had an absolute all-star seiyuu cast.

yes, when Koizumi, Yuki and Mikuru met up with Kyon, they discuss the loop. It had been running for 594 years, 17 juli till 31 august, 15,498 times. No wonder poor Yuki looked bored.

Ages in anime rarely make much sense to me. Seems like most of the time the characters act like they are 5 years older then their physical ages suggest.

Personally,on gut feeling, I'd put Roy and Claudia around their late twenties, early thirties. Misa: mid-to-late twenties. Max and Millia: early twenties. Hikaru around 20, only character that acts her age for the most part is Minmay, who I'd put between 15 and 18.

Maybe my age perception is off.