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what if lady m is lynn minmay

i don't get how the var is affecting messer, there was no wind song this time....

Wind song seems to only be the initial trigger, afterwards victims react to aggressive tendencies.

There is probably more space inside of the VF-31's cockpit compared to other VF's because it doesn't need a fancy rotating cockpit interior because the cockpit itself is still parallel, whereas most other VF's I can think of at the moment have theirs perpendicular, to the ground in battroid mode.

Space has never been an issue though since the cockpits are subject to anime magic.

Everyone that has been mentioned is acceptable.

Though I must add Cathy Glass.

FickleForever

That one scene is comically over the top though. They had the precision and took the time to shoot the head and all the limbs off, and then once the suit was completely disabled, went for a cockpit kill shot anyways because murder lulz. it's like a Cat mutilating a bird it just caught before it kills it.

That's more just the artists having a bit of fun IMO. With the way the shots are spread out, it seems more like they aren't really that precise - more like a bunch of vultures or wolves fighting over a piece of prey, then a single, malicious entity.

Honestly, I'm flat amazed that Kawamori resisted the temptation to include a cyborg in Macross Frontier who had a gun or two stashed away inside their limbs... the blade Brera has is frankly low-key compared to some of the stuff in Ghost in the Shell, for instance.

This is Macross, when the day comes that stuff other than a knife pops out of a cyborgs hands, it'll be a microphone, or better yet, a guitar.

The helmet on the Voldoran pilot reminds me of Marika's from the Mouretsu Pirates movie.

"he'd be proud if he saw you now, boy"

arad knows hayates father?

So HaremForever then?

Macross Quarter in Macross 30 had something similar for Mina to sing in.

I believe they also used the same for Ranka in Frontier.

BetrayedForever is more like it.

I wouldn't want or trust anybody else but Kawamori to be in overall control of Macross animes and design the VFs.

I really don't want Macross to become like Gundam with endless crap, mostly unrelated series churned out non-stop one after the other where they are just slapping a V-fin on a mecha and calling it Gundam, because the name will sell.

This.

One thing that becomes problematic with Gundam is that, with so many series, many of them are just re-tellings of the same story beats stuffed into pretty new mecha, as the creative teams scramble to come up with new series on a cookie cutter basis.

It's interesting how Macross has been able to remain in the hands of a single creator and maintain single timeline, while feeling fresh almost everytime a new one rolls out, while Gundam has multiple timelines and creators now, yet everything feels rehashed.

The beam cannons sit flush on the ventral section of the hull.

Are there actually any other space elves (aside from the mooks in episode 1) in Delta?

Wanting Macross to not follow current anime trends is wanting Macross not to be Macross. What some people may not understand, likely due to the fact that the internet didn't exist back then limiting most people in the west's exposure to actual Japanese pop culture, is that the original SDFM is pretty much a product of the Japanese pop culture trends and tropes of the time. In fact, this is why it works, because it plays with, deconstructs, and yet in the end celebrates those tropes. This follows on with all the later Macross TV series from 7 all the way to Delta. SK, Studio Nue, et. al. aren't just content with rehashing the same tired tropes from the original because they know all too well that the tropes and memes of each generation of anime and j-pop music are aren't always the same as the last. All they've kept are the basic ingredients of music and space battles, but each new installment takes from things from the zeitgeist of the time. This allows each installment to feel fresh and develop it's own identity instead of being tied to that of the original (something that other franchises have more difficulty doing).

Twice now (episodes 3 and 6, I think), when the knights were told to retreat, they were instructed to "return to the Branch". That could just be fancy 'wind' talk, but I've assumed that it is the name of their carrier or base ship.

I think it's safe to assume that they do have some sort of carrier supporting them. As for why it's not seen, either the Draken III's are capable of short range folds (and they just fold to the carrier), or the carrier itself has some cloaking tech. It makes sense when you consider that, up until now (before episode 6), they've been participating in irregular warfare.

I wish my PS3 hadn't died so I could finish Macross 30.

It's highly likely that the Aerial Knights have their own carrier. I mean, we actually see their fleet over Vordor.

Waklure already is being packaged as a idol group. Their first video is already on Youtube.

But what I mean is, is it just for the show (ala DoCo for Ranma, yes, showing my age here) or will it go beyond that?

Could be the reason why she left.

Also, the Aether techs have no problem hyping her up in her fight against Hayate.

They are, but they would not be enough. She would get, at least, a severe concussion if all she had were these force fields. She was basically unscathed,and within a few minutes, she was singing.

And then in Episode 4 she was expecting an attack and the drones were down. She told the other Walkure members to get down. And then she intentionally stood up.

That could simply be another character establishing moment rather than some indication that she has magic powers (aside from a high fold receptor count). It could simply be that she trusted Delta to catch all the missiles.

As far as I can understand JB0, he likes the original concept of Zentradi being swayed by contact with human culture in general, with Minmay acting as a focus of attention.

Then in DYRL, things were changed. Now Minmay was not just an element of human culture - she was singing some specific Protoculture song that triggered something pre-existing in Zentradi.

And since then, song is usually linked to some kind of energy or waves and makes an impact that way - rather than through the beauty of culture.

I think the two ways are sort of linked/balanced in the Macross world, with Basara being a strong rock singer (I don't think the word J-Pop should apply to M7, J-Rock should, despite absence of links to Visual Kei which is the most visible side of J-Rock). He does not *just* do things by "anima spiritia" and in fact does not seem to care much about that aspect - as far as *he* is concerned it's about music and emotion, and the space whale story of Dynamite it does appear to be about that?

Also in Frontier, Ranka's impact on rogue Zentradi on Gallia 4 does not seem to have anything to do with fold waves, this is pure culture at work (unlike stuff that goes on later with the Vajra, who are far too un-human to understand human culture. but they get the fold wave angle).

Delta does not seem to have the culture angle all that much as yet, with Walkure being a group specifically selected for fold reception levels as opposed to music quality. (Just realized this gives an inworld explanation to the drop of music "impact strength" after Kanno left). Moreover Episode 7 seems to show very specifically that, unlike Basara's times, cover singing does not do anything; it's the girls, not the music. The "culture impact" part only exists off-screen, as the original motive for Freyja's escape.

But everything might yet change later in the series...

The Gallia/Gaul 4 incident proves that all cultured Zentraedi are raging idol otaku. With the exception of that jerk Temujin, but then again, knowing his "predecessor", what he probably wanted was some Meltrans to make "culture" with (Temujin for martyr fighting for desegregation in the Marine fleets).

As for songs energy, fold wave theory, etc. At the end of the day, it becomes harder and harder to simply keep using the whole "beauty of culture" and "culture shock" trope. The furthest you can push this is what they did in Frontier where there was a communication barrier with the Vajra due to their alien nature (the hierarchy of alienness from the Enders books).

What bugs me about the YF-30 is that, as a pure technology demonstrator, it technically should have an X designation. But then again, weirder things have happened with the IRL tri-service designation scheme.

Who did this?

I wonder what VF-32 will be then... a custrmized version of VF-31?

The 30 to 31 seems more like the way the 21 became the 22 (or the real life YF-17 became the F/A-18), except without the whole, being passed over for selection part (30 was a pure, tech demonstrator).

The difference with Mikumo is that the force fields she uses are obviously from the micro drones and not from Anima Spiritia.