Abombz!!

Yes.... the last minute.... when 99% of the time... it will probably do nothing to save the party. Honestly.... other then the mages 2h, the pali 2h and the sam 2h.... all other 2hs are almost useless at saving pts. Why? Because they are too dependent on your accuracy. What good will Might Strikes do if you can't hit a mob in the first place? What good will the drk 2h do when you can't hit a mob either? On the other hand, palis Invinsible is always guaranteed to work. Mages spells don't depend on accuracy, so either they do little dmg or they do alot of dmg. It always pissed me off how Mighty Strikes never really helped a pt in anyway because I would always miss a mob... specially Elshimo Mandragoras.... since they seemed to have damn high evasion rate.

He was close enough to the tower to voke and had plenty of HP and IIRC, he had MP too, and we definitely had the upper hand on the pug we were killing. If anything it would have been better if he had saved it until we were being raped by that other pug but then, that's just my opinion I suppose. There were members in the party that were still in white and yellow HP levels when he bene'd. Vostok 7 I take it you never seen a pugs one hit kill ability. It doesn't matter if he had enough mp in this case... if he didn't have enough MP for either curaga or CureII.... your party could've been raped by the pug no matter how much the upperhand was.

lol I have been a WHM before remember? Fine, I won't tell people what to do anymore... If they get killed because they generated so much hate I couldn't voke then that's their problem. btw, in the situation this person used benediction, I didn't feel it was necessary. Vostok 7 See? Thats your problem... you don't realize that benediction is a suicide ability. At lv20-25.... a whm who expects to be saved after benediction is a stupid jackass who shouldn't be a whm in the first place. Its not up to you to decide. Its up to the whm to access the situation and take the best action possible to save the pt. As a whm.... I'm known to rest in the middle of a battle even though the mob still has half its hp.... why? Because I simply figured out the dmg the party was taking, and that they could survive without healing. More mp=more chains. And why don't they get angry at me? Because they know what I'm doing or because they trust my judgement.

Do you use your 2h ability when fighting an easy? No? Then why would a whm use his when healing? Don't ever try to teach a whm what to do unless you have been a whm before. 99% of whms are made of ppl who chose to play that class, therefore, unlike wars and other classes, they know what they are getting into, they know their limitations, and they know when to do what. At your lv... a whm has more pt experience then you do.

And I sure as hell hope he/she doesn't listen to you. Benediction is a 2h job ability for a reason.... its a life saver, and whm killer. It is not, under any circunstance to be used during down times, because you can simply do Divine Circle + Curaga to the same effect without the 2h recharge. Unless you are close to the zone line.... the whm will die, unless you have 4 tanks and they all have provoke ready. Seriously.... if you have never been a whm, do not try to tell the whm what to do. When your pt is dying and your whm can't use benediction to save you, because he listened to your oh so bright idea about using it during down times, you will learn to never ever tell a whm what to do again. Benediction is an ability that should only be used as last resort (as in the out of mp last resort) DURING a battle! If whm in my pt decides to use it during down time, I swear I would slap him for real. No we didn't. My EF did nothing because none of us got any xp in Qufim at all. The take over came from good players not being killed in there. And BTW.... at lv22... you should be easily eating giants for breakfast without breaking a sweat. Giants are whimps, as long as your whm is smart enough to stand the frakk away from battle.

See? Thats a good pt. I had one like that this past weekend.... only 1 tank, and boy did he pull agro well. And I don't get why most whms get all pissy and start running around when a mob turns their attention towards them. Seriously.... if I see a mob running up to me, I just stand there healing the tank or casting banish on the mobs candy ass untill it turns its attention to the blm because she is casting non stop chain spells.

LOL! I'm inclined to believe that the asses come out during the week while the stupid players come out during the weekend. As for the shouts.... I wouldn't know, I have long ago filtered shout out when I was Qufim and ppl would set their ability yells as /s instead of /s or would shout profanities whenever something bad happened to their pts. Why wash? Just wear the same outfit everyday.... saves on water and soap. As for food..... bah!! Eating is for weak!!!

Want to see how you are not the only one with pting problems? I went to Jeuno today in hopes of getting a pt and reaching lv24 so I could dump my current armor and go back to the more comfortable chain armor. Got an invite a few minutes after being there. Got killed by a dancing weapon on my way in because some stupid frakk at Square thought it was a good idea to reset their respawning point right at the entrance of the cave where theres no way to avoid being agroed. So I ran back... met the pt in front of the Delkfut tower. The pt had 1 whm, 1 drk, 2 sams, 1 monk and 1 ninja. We start fighting clippers, the sam uses Enpi, and me having enough tp, decided to use Enpi too so we would cause distortion..... instead the sam tells me not to do that in a very rude manner. Fine. After that battle I ask what the chain order is.... the same sam tells me "There is not chain order, just use tp at your own discretion". That got me ticked off and confused. A few battles later, I do the samething, thinking what the heck, theres no chain order, right? Might as well just take the oportunity and chain off someone, right? Wrong! I got the exact same reaction... but this time I got "Jesus! I told you before, stop frakking around and don't chain off me!!". Great, he goes off to yell at me that he was chaining with a friend of his.... now how the frakk was I supposed to know that? He didn't say anything, and assumed I knew. How was I supposed to know that they were some sort of gay couple or something? Seriously... the xp was awsome, but if I have to deal with someone who is an ass to everyone (whm included) I rather not be in the party. And you know what the funny thing is? Because I was 1 lv above him, and was subbing drk (attack bonus) I was dealing 3 times as much dmg as he was. And the 2 times I chained with him, we did twice as much dmg as when he chained with his homosexual game mate. Seriously.... stupidity like that goes beyond me. Seriously... some ppl in that piss me off to know end. Its like some idiot locked the entire gamesfaq community in a room.

You shoulda joined Unicorn. You shoulda joined Lakshmi! You shoulda joined Unicorn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

You shoulda joined Unicorn.

The problem with the gobbie bag... is that if you can't manage your inventory with 30 slots, adding 5 slots won't exactly help you. And its not like you don't stop at a town every now and then. If your mog safe is too crowded.... get yourself a second character and send all your unused stuff to him/her.... thats what I did, and it works wonders. And Yosho... you were saying you weren't thinking about changing to an advanced class later on because you ddin't want to start from the beginning.... well.... as a pali, things move much faster. You can solo till lv15, you can take on toughs without breaking a sweat (I have survived a triple tough agro in Konstchat once). By lv15, get a club and go to Gusgen Mines. Everything near the entrance you con as either tough or even match.... but get this, palis make undead crap their bones, and clubs eat through undead as if they weren't even there. You don't even have to sub war.... just sub whm and watch as you solo pratically the entire game on your own.

Well... he would need a really good party though. Korroloka is rough, and the pugils there agro. The are where clippers spawn is surrounded by those pugils. As for that ability... they never took it out. You can still invite ppl who are in areas directly linked to the one you are in. You were never able to invite someone in bastok when you are in Valkurm or something like that.

I don't need to explain anything because you just proved my point. This is the last time I will say this.... you are richer then I was at that point.

I'll be glad if I don't ever have to go back to Qufim again. And its same for my Linkshell everyone one in it is supermore highl lvl's than me. I just deal with it. out of cash cuz I bought spells. We all have lifes... some of us just know how to manage it better. As for Qufim.... if you get a good party, you can pt in Korroloka from lv15 to lv25.

Then quit! Why the frakk do you need fame now? For a gobbie bag? And you are complaining about not having money? WTF? You know that the first gobbie back will cost you 17k right? And for what? Just so you can hide your inability to manage your inventory? Thats an awsome deal!! [/sarcasm]

LOL! So what? If I was to think that way, I would've quit anyways because everyone in my linkshell not only plays a whole deal better then me, but they are also higher lv, have much more money then I do, know what to do and when to do thing. And yet, I don't try to compete with them. I stopped trying to compete with anyone, when I realized that everytime I logged, and then logged back in the next morning, everyone was lv awsome, while I was lv bullshit, simply because I was out for a few hours. If you are going to whine about this game, don't whine about how you are losing some imaginary competition against me and Yosho. I have whole days to play this game from morning till night, what do you have? YOu don't even have half the time I have to play this game, so why the frakk are trying to compete? 11k at your lv is good money. I didn't start to get alot of money once I got my advanced classes and went around Gustaberg lving every single class I have. You know how many crystal I got from that? NM hunting is useless unless you are high lv and really need a large injection of money, which isn't your case. I have seen ppl kill 100 NMs and get nothing, so whats the point? Good equipment? When I was lv25, I was the only war in Elshimo who had no accessory except for the Bastokian ring and was carrying a lv20 sword, which I have yet to retire even. I seriously don't see your point there. You only really have to worry about maintaining up to date equipment if you are a pali (up to date armor is a must), drk (must always have the best weapon, armor is unimportant) and mages (your spells must be up to date, always). The rest can get away with out dated stuff. Pting with your friends? The only reason I pted with Drad was because my party was in need of a tank. He had the time, so he stuck around till the party disbanded. 3 ppl from that pt were from my LS, while the 3 other were randomers. If you had been around, and was at lv16, I would've invited you. If I get to Qufim, and I need a war, I will invite you, the same fro Yosho and his brother. Its all about being there at the right moment. Jesus... this is not even a point to be complained about. Its like you get a game, see how awsome the last area is, and whine about how you had to battle your way through the game to get there. I said it before, and I will say it again, lv30 is the point where the options will open up for you. And if you think pting in Qufim sucks, trust me, you are not the only one. I went there this weekend in hopes of getting a few lvs for my sam (got 2 lvs with them), and I landed into this awsome pt, that went from kick ass to can't even kill a clipper without getting raped. It sucks, and you are not the only who has problems there.

Right.... but you guys were getting slopy when we move to the beaches. I went from not being hit at all to being hit once or twice. And seriously.... update your entire equipment! Everytime you asked Jack to tank, you took dmg worse then a naked dark knight. Tanking is fun, I know (yeah right!!), but if you are going to do it, do it with updated equipment, otherwise all you are doing is making the whms life much harder, and sucking up MP. And BTW.... go easy on the emotes. When that high lv whm started to tag along with us, she was kind of freaked at the amount of nodding you were doing. But yeah.... it was a very good party.

Because you haven't explored enough? yes you're supposed to let me keep stuff you paid for! Duh! Every time I've tried to sell fetich parts on the AH they didn't move... And yeah, I tried that "sell it when there's nothing" thing once by putting a pinch of sulfur up for 6k... didn't sell... And I've explored just fine thank you very much. Until now I was too busy to go into Palborough. And maybe a part of me was being a wuss and didn't want to go after the bad experience I had the first time I went there. Vostok 7 Thats because you don't know how to sell stuff. A stack of beeswax go for 12.000 gil, right? Don't be a dumb ass and sell it for 12.000. The thing is, if there are 12 stack available to purchase in the AH, chances are, 11 of those stacks are being sold for exactly 12k. Now, 1 of them is being sold for 11,5k. If you were to buy a stack, the one priced 11,5k is the one you are going to get. The lowest priced item is always the first one to go out when someone pays for that item. Just sell whatever you are trying to sell for less then the history price. Heck... even 1 gil less is enough to bump your item to the front of the row. And trust me... even if you put the price as 200 less then what the price history is, you have 90% of chance someone will come by and pay full price for it, because there are alot of ppl who don't try the lowest price possible first.

Don't know... .never checked it as I never came across a light crystal before.

Ahh, but water crystals are good for raising cooking! Also those useless crystals are also good for giving to the gate guards so you can skip those crappy missions. Right... but which one of those 2 is actually cooking anything? Yeah... but between farming crystals that will actually give you oney and farming crystals that you will give to gate guards, I rather farm money giving crystals. And besides, a stack of earth crystals got for 150 gil in Bastok, just buy 2 or 3 stacks and you are set. gah... stacks of earth go for 500 on lakshmi and I use em like they're going out of style The best selling crystals in Unicorn are dark crystals. Fire, wind and lightning come next.... and water and earth sell for nothing.

Ahh, but water crystals are good for raising cooking! Also those useless crystals are also good for giving to the gate guards so you can skip those crappy missions. Right... but which one of those 2 is actually cooking anything? Yeah... but between farming crystals that will actually give you oney and farming crystals that you will give to gate guards, I rather farm money giving crystals. And besides, a stack of earth crystals got for 150 gil in Bastok, just buy 2 or 3 stacks and you are set.

What? I'm supposed to let you keep weapons I paid for? Right. As for Fetich parts... they sell... and they sell very well. The secret is to look for parts that are sold out in the AH and sell them for astronomical prices. I have sold Fetich parts for 5k easily, simply because n00bs get too desperate with dying in Pals that they rather get the parts from the AH. And the best place to farm in Bastok is Dangruf Wadi. The time it takes you to reach Pals mines, is the same time it takes you to come and go from the Wadi. And animal glue sells better then anything Pals mines has to offer. And water crystals sell for crap anywhere in Unicorn. You are better off with fire crystals from the Wadi. Because you haven't explored enough?

I know you were talking about farming that's why I said "anyway". I meant easily as in all the guides say you can take that mission at a minimum of lvl 15 I know it's not going to be easy And all I have for furniture is a table and a pot. The table I got for free, and the pot I bought to start getting stuff from gardening. I was agreeing with you... Geez. Get off my case Vostok 7 I wasn't talking about you... I was refering to Yoshos mog house. LOL... guides? WTF? Why would you get a guide for this game? You can get everything for free online and in more reliable format. I don't get how the heck you guys don't have money. I don't farm, I have only done quests in Bastok, I don't go on witch hunts.... errrr..... NM hunts, and I spend alot of money on spells and equipment. I have 2 pairs of leaping boots, which I don't to sell or use. And I have 70k in my pockets. How is that possible? My main source of income are wind crystals, fire crystals, beeswax once in a while, and whatever I manage to save.

I'm not talking about killing for a mission... I'm talking about farming. And kill the dragon easily at lv25? Gee.... talk about misplaced cockyness(sp). Take a picture when you walk away from that fight cursed and has no one to remove it for you. And why the heck would anyone need furniture in a mog house? No wonder you guys are out of money. I have 6 pots that were given to me, a stationery set and a brass bed that was also give to me to complete the increase mog safe size quest, which I haven't finished yet.

Bull crap. You never tried to keep up or catch up. Give me a break. If you really wanted to catch up you would never go on NM hunts for money, you would never try to lv your sub job on the simple excuse that you need MP boost, and you would never try to get fame for a gobie bag. Want money? Get farm bees for beehivechips, make beeswax and sell them for 10k a stack. Go to the wadi and kill gob ambushers for animal glue, and sett 1 stack for 5k. Got to Gheslba and kill orcs for fire crystals, 30 minutes=4 stack + a ton of conquest points. Want mp boost? Sorry... you can't have it. You are an elvaan for Petes sake! You will always have 1/10th of taru mp, and 1/5th of hume mp, no matter what you do. And if you really want mp boost, then get your ass to lv30, hunt for a rubby and lv a summoner. If you want mp, get yourself a taru. Gobie bag? Its really beyond me how anyone, at that lv, would ever need a gobie bag. You either have way too much crap in your inv/mog safe, or you simply don't know how to keep yourself organized. I have all possible accessories and all pieces of armor, and I still have 15 inv slots at any time. I have all jobs (except rdm) at lv11 so I won't ever need lv1 through 7 equipment again. Trust me, 5 inv slots are not worth the time or money you have to put into getting a gobie bag. Doing quests in Windurst is probably the worst experience you will ever have in that game. And you want fame? Get your brother and Vostok in Beadeaux. Kill copper Quads for Quad helms. Theres an NPC in Bastok that will pay you 700 (or 900) for each helm, and that will also give you fame for each helm you turn in. See? Its not about taking time to do things, its about being smart at doing them. I'm not a super computer. I'm stuck in a piece of crap of a country, have no will to go out because its too dangerous, and I have nothing else to do. Plus, I have a linkshell who likes to go on lowbie parties alot, thats how I get so much xp, because those guys play so well its scary.