Skull Leader

Testors primer-grey was exactly the color I wanted as a basecoat for my SDF-01 model... there's nothing at all wrong with using it that way.

Hey, wasn't Shin Kudou's F-14 wing also called Purple?

Hate to rain on the parade here, but the callsign does not necessarily dictate the squadron. The real life Skull Squadron (Jolly Rogers) back when they were the VF-84 used "Victory *insert number here*" has their callsigns (they also used this, quite accurately, in the movie "The Final Countdown")... and often times, callnumbers were mission-specific unless I am mistaken.

I tried this game a while back (I downloaded it) and I couldn't get it to work very well (it always locked up during the first mission).... I may have to try this one again, if I can ever find it!

It WAS animated by animefriend, however... there was official lineart drawn by Kawamori in TIAS#7 of a Max-style VF-1D... virtually any episode that involves Max or Milia was done by Animefriend (not all but most)... but as you see, there WAS evidence backing it up.

Mospeada has nothing to do with this thread.

The designation that Kawamori assigned to the MacZero F-14s is "F-14A+ Kai". According to the compendium, these models incorperate overtechnology (although, it does not say how)

Among MG connesieurs (sp?), MG 2: Solid Snake is pretty much considered the best MG ever. There are some who disagree, and except for the pile that is "snakes revenge", I haven't played a Metal Gear that I didnt' like.

Its still very fun, and probably has one of the BEST soundtracks from any NES game. Its hard as hell, but it is beatable. And its mad fun if you get into it. I dont see why everyone hates it. Doesnt make a DAMN bit of sense to me.

-BEN-MAN-

While I think it's a steaming pile, I understand others may like it. As a game, it's functional, I just didn't think it was worthy of the title "Metal Gear" (I thought similar thoughts about FF7, but that's another matter)

To meet the Zanzibarbarians!

*sigh* there's one in every group

You're making a typical but invalid generalization, Gundamhead.

"All valkyries that have triangular patches are VF-1Ds, therefore there cannot be VF-1Ds that do not have triangular patches." <_<

Well, maybe and maybe not, but Who's to say that the patches are aren't still there and just painted over? You're making this way harder than it has to be. They couldn't just swap out cockpits precisely because of the difference in the fuselage/torso. The standard single-seat fighters fuselage couldn't be rigged to handle a two-seat cockpit (at least, as they are designed in the TV series), because the nose would stick out half again further than it usually does (thereby unbalancing the aircraft)

The color of the triangular patches is the same thing as the angular stripes of skull squadron.... it's purely a cosmetic thing. More to prove the point, in the SAME EPISODE, we see VF-1Ds in Cannon-fodder colors. I saw no black patches on their chests either. <_< In fact, take a look at the Hasegawa schematic that Hikaru posted above.. you can see the patches on the Max-paint scheme... just not colored "black".

Just because it had two head lasers, a gun, and a paint scheme that doesn't match up, are NOT solid reasons to claim it should be a VF-1J. People tend to forget that the VF-1D saw as much action as the rest of the model types (NOT just a trainer, folks)

End of sermon, I think I've laid this one to rest.

Time to go get it on...

Makin' a phone call.....

And here's a couple of shots from the MSX (read: original) version of Metal Gear.

operation: Intrude N313

sneaking away from enemies

Arrival on the shores of Zanzibar

Here's a couple of screenshots from Metal Gear2: Solid Snake..

Yeah, sounds like Ikari Warriors or Ikari Warriors 2:"Victory Road", neither of which were very impressive and both are very long. I got almost all the way to the end of the first one and I beat the second one.

IIRC, both only had one stage, the terrain just changed as you went on.

They were much easier to play on the NES than they were in the arcades, where you had to rotate the damn joystick to change your angle of fire... highly annoying.

An F-14 with thrust vectoring (using ACTIVE nozzles--any Super Tomcat could be easily retrofitted) would have an AMAZING roll capability, due to its very widely spaced engines.

LOL, you mean "vomit-inducing"! Could you just imagine!?? Like sticking yourself in a centerfuge...

Ok, I couldn't stand it anymore, so I had to drag out the book and look for myself.

On Page 66 of TIAS #7, the picture CLEARLY shows that the chest plate goes straight across...ALA VF-1D.

The straight chestplate (with the small middle-part), added with the head unit and the length of the cockpit ALL point at a VF-1D.... there is nothing about that that suggests it would be a VF-1J. As for having a gun? Remember.... they *did* take that valkyrie into combat.

I know it seems like a lot of effort just to repaint a whole aircraft for this occasion, but remember, it was the FIRST Human/Meltrandi wedding... And the crew of the UNS Macross certainly spared no expense.

So it WAS a VF-1D... and I think it was justified, given the occasion. Paintjobs probably didn't take too long on the Macross anyhow.

"Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake" is, to this day, my favorite Metal Gear game... it's also damn hard!

You know you have a genuine Metal Gear game if Snake intrudes by water (at least I hope so.. I haven't played the game boy version of "Metal Gear Solid" or "Metal Gear: Ghost Babel"... and in Sons of Liberty he intruded onto a boat that was IN the water, so it counts)

None of this "Airdropping in to kill General Vernon Kataffy" or whatever nonsense...

Some minor differences between NES Metal Gear and MSN Metal Gear

(NES):Turret gunner bosses (on roof) (MSX): Hind D

(NES):Airdrop intrusion (MSX): SCUBA/water intrusion

(NES):no picture by transciever (MSX): small picture of snake by the transceiver

BOTH HAVE PRETTY GOOD MUSIC, JUST DIFFERENT

(if you want to hear stage music from the MSX version,

just play the virtual missions on Metal Gear Solid)

(NES):Brighter colors (MSX): Much darker color scheme, more military

(NES):Easier (MSX): Much harder

Stages vary slightly on both versions...and the MSX version

features a Parachute (and MG:SS has a hang glider)

(NES):Supercomputer boss? (MSX): Metal Gear boss

That's just some of it, I know there's more. Most American fans do not know the joy that is "Metal Gear2: Solid Snake". It was the forerunner to Metal Gear Solid (in fact, parts of the game are frighteningly similar). I strongly reccomend this download!

nevermind, it isn't worth the trouble

How's about we just let it drop here? We're going in circles. Use the heatshield of your choice. Some think the 1S should have a black heatshield regardless of who's piloting it... others think it should be a representative color...

. <---------------------------- see that? That's about TEN MILLION pounds of compressed "I don't give a damn"..... use the version of your choice ad-nauseum.

but it *SAID* VF-1D.... straight from Kawamori at Studio Nue... what more proof do you need??? And unless I am mistaken, the picture was an overhead view. What book are you looking in????

Here is one small piece of evidence that discounts that. Even in DYRL, where the animation and art was so much better than the TV series. In this scene I present you with Max's VF-1S with NO COLOR AT ALL. It also bears mentioning that in one screenshot that Roy had a YELLOW heatshield. My best guess is that the color does not really matter. Most here would like to think that it was a blue heatshield. A few think it was black (and yes, a couple of screenshots substantiate this).... but you could get away with either. Personally I think that Blue would've held better... especially since Hikaru's VF-1S had a red heatshield (as seen in good-solid scenes that were clear)

Edit: Ok, the damn picture won't work....

at any rate, there's a scene while he's fighting milia inside the ship where his valkyrie is black and white only.

While I'm in agreement with Apollo and whatnot, I might as well join in on the fun with some of my dream cast....

Elizabeth Hurley as the Baroness (hey, she's already got the accent)

Louis Gossett Jr. as (old) "Roadbock"? (Hey, he's a good actor, even if he's old and skinny)

Bruce Willis as "Beach Head" (He's the perfect smartass)

Ewan McGregor as "Mainframe" (don't know why, he just fits the role)

Rutger Hauer as "LowLight" (tell me HE doesn't match up... if you put a beard on him, he could be "Rock n' Roll")

Michael Biehn as "Flint" or (he's Hollywood's universal soldier)

Jackie Chan as "Quick Kick" (someone already said this, but the matchup would be great)

Nicholas Cage as "Dusty" (complete with Con-Air southern accent)

Cheech Marin as "Bazooka" (old, but he looks just like him)

Ozzy Osbourne as "Zartan" (but only if he uses his "singing" voice)

Tom Berringer as "General Hawk" (He's got the voice and the look)

Sgt. Slaughter as..... Sgt. Slaughter??????

Christopher Lloyd as "Doctor Mindbender" (He's good at doing strange roles, just shave his head)

just a couple ideas (and for the record, I thought the first Mortal Kombat movie was good)