I've ordered from them three times (and there is still more I want) and have been very happy so far. I used to order from Ron back in the early 90s so it is great to get some of these that are from his stock. I saw on a Facebook page last weekend someone had visited the warehouse and purchased a bunch of kits. In his photo he posted he had a Votoms shipping box so I asked if they were selling them. He said they gave it to him and if I contacted them they would probably ship my order in one. So I did and they said they would gladly ship it to me in a Macross one, it just might be a lot in shipping. I had no problem paying the extra but when I got my order it was in a normal box, never did pay extra in shipping (I did ask how much it would be but they never answered) I totally understand if they want to sell them, they are cool and unique items, but when I tried to contact them again I didn't get a response.